show Expectancy in pips, along with the one $ diskuse

Lately I'm finding lots of accounts that trade excessive lots sizes on demo, many to impress potential clients with their huge gains. If you would calculate the Expectancy in pips, and show it next to the one in $ (the same way you show Average wins and losses), it would give a better understanding of how good the system is.

For example, my personal opinion is that a system with an expectancy of 1 pip, that's showcased in a demo account with no commissions, will most likely be losing money in an account where commissions and slippage are part of the deal. While another system, with an Expectancy of 5 pips, has strong chances of performing well in a real account.

Or course there are other factors involved, but all in all, if I were to chose between 2 systems/accounts, both showing 10% a month, I'll chose the one having a higher pips expectancy.

I know we can manually compute the Expectancy in pips, since you give us all the data needed for that. I just thought it would be nice to have it done on your end, and maybe even used as criteria for searching.

Thanks for the great work you are doing at myfxbook!

Remus

Made a typo in the title, and cannot edit it now: wanted to say 'show Expectancy in pips, along with the one in $'

How about showing expectancy per unit of risk? For example expectancy in pips per pip risked, or dollars per dollar risked. It's almost the same thing that the author requests and definitely servers the same purpose (which is why I voted for this)...

I see the light. Makes sense to me. You have my vote.
 Show expectancy per unit of risk?
Can you explain this in detail with an example? Wouldn't we need to know the actual Draw down in pips per trade to determine the amount of risk since many systems do not include a Fixed stoploss within the order history.

A quick note: the support team pointed out to me that the formula I provided for calculating the pips expectancy can be simplified a lot, as shown below:

<b>Expectancy in Pips</b>
= Average Pips Win * Winning Trades % + Average Pips Loss * Losing Trades %
= (TotalPipsWon / WonTradeCount) * (WonTradeCount / TotalTradeCount) +
  (TotalPipsLost / LostTradeCount) * (LostTradeCount / TotalTradeCount)
= TotalPipsWon / TotalTradeCount + TotalPipsLost / TotalTradeCount
= (TotalPipsWon + TotalPipsLost) / TotalTradeCount
= <b>TotalPips / TotalTradeCount</b>

While it's now much easier to calculate, I still consider it's good to have it automatically computed, and shown along with the $ expectancy.

expectancy per unit risk should be based on the stop loss, so if you make a 100 trades, each with a stop 20 pips away on opening and each one of those trades closed out at +40 then expectancy would be 2 since you can expect to make 2 pips every time you risk 1 pip. Naturally I see the problems inherent in this such as moving stops, or not trading with a stop loss, however for those that trade with a fixed stop loss it would be a good method of evaluating system performance that takes account balance out of the equation..