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Queens Money Collector (Od OrtwinRich)
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Členem od Mar 22, 2015
32 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 06:21
I think everything is said about this liar..
The only conclusion you can take from the whole story: Jens Damberg (aka Ortwin Rich) is a BIG liar !!!!
My account was 1570 euro (with bonus 375 euro): so you need much more than 45 % to wipe out my account
For those who still not believe the DD was 85%, here a screenshot I made of his FXBlue during the DD ...
I think a little child can see this is a little bit more than 45 % ;-)
So Jens (aka Ortwin) stop acting like a little child and lying to everybody !!!!
Admit you are wrong !!!
The only conclusion you can take from the whole story: Jens Damberg (aka Ortwin Rich) is a BIG liar !!!!
My account was 1570 euro (with bonus 375 euro): so you need much more than 45 % to wipe out my account
For those who still not believe the DD was 85%, here a screenshot I made of his FXBlue during the DD ...
I think a little child can see this is a little bit more than 45 % ;-)
So Jens (aka Ortwin) stop acting like a little child and lying to everybody !!!!
Admit you are wrong !!!
Přílohy :
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
240 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 07:13
estherhelmond posted:
Ortwin Rich he is a fraud !
Dear Esther!
When you have no clue about Forex, why did you start than with Forex?
Will you also drive a car without a driving licence?
When you took 115% Bonus you must have been aware that there is something wrong?
To offer a Bonus it the oldest and best known trick to get customer's money and to hold them forever (or to get their money very fast).
We are not liars. Not me or my wingman Jens. We did not steal anyone money or did not betray someone.
To proof that we are not liars we offer links of our account to MyFxBook, FPA and FxBlue.
Our account is still alive and making good profit. Your account is blown. Please tell me now who made the mistakes?
But we opened Master Account 2.
Here you can get the same results as on Master Account 1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
This is an open Fund account.
No PC or Notebook needed
No Internet needed
No need to know about Forex at all
No need for LotScaling, Risk-Calculation a.s.o.
Jump in whenever you want.
Get payed monthly via Skrill, Neteller or PayPal
You can quit every month
Full service around this account
You can jump in whenever you want.
Get payed whenever you want.
Do not wait to take this exclusive offer. Start with 100 USD or as much as you want.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales and Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Apr 13, 2011
159 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 07:16
OrtwinRich posted:estherhelmond posted:
Ortwin Rich he is a fraud !
Dear Esther!
When you have no clue about Forex, why did you start than with Forex?
Will you also drive a car without a driving licence?
When you took 115% Bonus you must have been aware that there is something wrong?
To offer a Bonus it the oldest and best known trick to get customer's money and to hold them forever (or to get their money very fast).
We are not liars. Not me or my wingman Jens. We did not steal anyone money or did not betray someone.
To proof that we are not liars we offer links of our account to MyFxBook, FPA and FxBlue.
Our account is still alive and making good profit. Your account is blown. Please tell me now who made the mistakes?
But we opened Master Account 2.
Here you can get the same results as on Master Account 1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
This is an open Fund account.
No PC or Notebook needed
No Internet needed
No need to know about Forex at all
No need for LotScaling, Risk-Calculation a.s.o.
Jump in whenever you want.
Get payed monthly via Skrill, Neteller or PayPal
You can quit every month
Full service around this account
You can jump in whenever you want.
Get payed whenever you want.
Do not wait to take this exclusive offer. Start with 100 USD or as much as you want.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales and Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
If your customers fail.. you have failed!
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
240 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 07:29
NikX posted:OrtwinRich posted:estherhelmond posted:
Ortwin Rich he is a fraud !
Dear Esther!
When you have no clue about Forex, why did you start than with Forex?
Will you also drive a car without a driving licence?
When you took 115% Bonus you must have been aware that there is something wrong?
To offer a Bonus it the oldest and best known trick to get customer's money and to hold them forever (or to get their money very fast).
We are not liars. Not me or my wingman Jens. We did not steal anyone money or did not betray someone.
To proof that we are not liars we offer links of our account to MyFxBook, FPA and FxBlue.
Our account is still alive and making good profit. Your account is blown. Please tell me now who made the mistakes?
But we opened Master Account 2.
Here you can get the same results as on Master Account 1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
This is an open Fund account.
No PC or Notebook needed
No Internet needed
No need to know about Forex at all
No need for LotScaling, Risk-Calculation a.s.o.
Jump in whenever you want.
Get payed monthly via Skrill, Neteller or PayPal
You can quit every month
Full service around this account
You can jump in whenever you want.
Get payed whenever you want.
Do not wait to take this exclusive offer. Start with 100 USD or as much as you want.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales and Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
If your customers fail.. you have failed!
Dear Nikx!
Of course it is always us! We are the bad boys! We betray people! We make the mistakes!
But our account is alive and making profit and profit.But we have dozends of customers the are with us fore month. And it works with them. They pay there monthly fees in advance !
We do not hear a single word from them! Sometimes we read " Thank you for the good service" or "Thank you for the signals"
I wish I could post these mails here. But I am not allowed.
For those, which are not familiar with Forex or do not want to take care of Forex we created the Master Account 2.
Jump on Board now.
Do not miss this opportunity
Ortwin Rich
I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
240 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 08:17
ElPulga10 posted:
I think everything is said about this liar..
The only conclusion you can take from the whole story: Jens Damberg (aka Ortwin Rich) is a BIG liar !!!!
My account was 1570 euro (with bonus 375 euro): so you need much more than 45 % to wipe out my account
For those who still not believe the DD was 85%, here a screenshot I made of his FXBlue during the DD ...
I think a little child can see this is a little bit more than 45 % ;-)
So Jens (aka Ortwin) stop acting like a little child and lying to everybody !!!!
Admit you are wrong !!!
Hello ElPulga!
I think you picture is very small takeout of a big one. Is this a fake?
Sometimes a COMPLETE picture tells more than a 1000 words:
Yours sincerely
Ortwin
Přílohy :
I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
240 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 08:44
Hello Everybody!
Please note that our new Master Account 2 is a PAMM account.
But our new invented Calculation System "Parts" allows to jump in whenever you want.
Get payed whenever you want.
You can deposit more whenever you want.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
I-Make-You-Rich.com
Please note that our new Master Account 2 is a PAMM account.
But our new invented Calculation System "Parts" allows to jump in whenever you want.
Get payed whenever you want.
You can deposit more whenever you want.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Apr 30, 2015
44 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 10:45
OrtwinRich posted:estherhelmond posted:
Ortwin Rich he is a fraud !
Dear Esther!
When you have no clue about Forex, why did you start than with Forex?
Will you also drive a car without a driving licence?
When you took 115% Bonus you must have been aware that there is something wrong?
To offer a Bonus it the oldest and best known trick to get customer's money and to hold them forever (or to get their money very fast).
We are not liars. Not me or my wingman Jens. We did not steal anyone money or did not betray someone.
To proof that we are not liars we offer links of our account to MyFxBook, FPA and FxBlue.
Our account is still alive and making good profit. Your account is blown. Please tell me now who made the mistakes?
But we opened Master Account 2.
Here you can get the same results as on Master Account 1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
This is an open Fund account.
No PC or Notebook needed
No Internet needed
No need to know about Forex at all
No need for LotScaling, Risk-Calculation a.s.o.
Jump in whenever you want.
Get payed monthly via Skrill, Neteller or PayPal
You can quit every month
Full service around this account
You can jump in whenever you want.
Get payed whenever you want.
Do not wait to take this exclusive offer. Start with 100 USD or as much as you want.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales and Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
If i ask you BEFORE i started trading . " ortwin what is your advice, should i take a bonus ? maximum bonus? No bonus?"
i asked you wich leverage i should set. I asked you wich lotscaling i must set. Etc etc etc.
I told you i am totaly new to this.
Didnt it came up to you , to say :DONT TAKE BONUS! or DONT CALCULATE the bonus to your balance!
I told you what my balance was, asked you wich lotscaling and leverage settings
I did what you said to me exactly.
again, i asked ESPECIALY About the bonus. Your answer was " bonus is no problem, only your money is bound"
So Yes i took maximum bonus. Why? Because i believed in your system, long term, so i didnt care that my money was stick there for a while.
But now you claim that you always did warn About the bonus, and you just didnt mention anything About it.
and About the DD , your stats on fxblue show the end of the day trading.
At one moment it was close to 90%! I know that , others know that, and YOU know that as Well.
Grts Esther
Ps. Say Hi to Jay
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
240 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 11:30
(Upravené May 11, 2015 at 11:36)
estherhelmond posted:OrtwinRich posted:estherhelmond posted:
Ortwin Rich he is a fraud !
Dear Esther!
When you have no clue about Forex, why did you start than with Forex?
Will you also drive a car without a driving licence?
When you took 115% Bonus you must have been aware that there is something wrong?
To offer a Bonus it the oldest and best known trick to get customer's money and to hold them forever (or to get their money very fast).
We are not liars. Not me or my wingman Jens. We did not steal anyone money or did not betray someone.
To proof that we are not liars we offer links of our account to MyFxBook, FPA and FxBlue.
Our account is still alive and making good profit. Your account is blown. Please tell me now who made the mistakes?
But we opened Master Account 2.
Here you can get the same results as on Master Account 1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
This is an open Fund account.
No PC or Notebook needed
No Internet needed
No need to know about Forex at all
No need for LotScaling, Risk-Calculation a.s.o.
Jump in whenever you want.
Get payed monthly via Skrill, Neteller or PayPal
You can quit every month
Full service around this account
You can jump in whenever you want.
Get payed whenever you want.
Do not wait to take this exclusive offer. Start with 100 USD or as much as you want.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales and Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
If i ask you BEFORE i started trading . " ortwin what is your advice, should i take a bonus ? maximum bonus? No bonus?"
i asked you wich leverage i should set. I asked you wich lotscaling i must set. Etc etc etc.
I told you i am totaly new to this.
Didnt it came up to you , to say :DONT TAKE BONUS! or DONT CALCULATE the bonus to your balance!
I told you what my balance was, asked you wich lotscaling and leverage settings
I did what you said to me exactly.
again, i asked ESPECIALY About the bonus. Your answer was " bonus is no problem, only your money is bound"
So Yes i took maximum bonus. Why? Because i believed in your system, long term, so i didnt care that my money was stick there for a while.
But now you claim that you always did warn About the bonus, and you just didnt mention anything About it.
and About the DD , your stats on fxblue show the end of the day trading.
At one moment it was close to 90%! I know that , others know that, and YOU know that as Well.
Grts Esther
Ps. Say Hi to Jay
Dear Esther!
Why do you always blame me ? I did not gave you the bonus! I did not cancel your bonus !
This happened to me as well. I was also angry about the Broker FXSHIT. I thought I have plenty of money and the next morning my account was wiped out. Bonus cancelled. Trades stopped out. Shit happens. I just changed the broker and did not blame the vendor of the EA. The Robot, like ours did a good job. Without the Bonus-Cancel I would have made good profit. Like you would have done without the Bonus!
Can you not just say: Lessons learned.
About your FxBlue Statement:
NONSENS:
Again: One picture tells more than 1000 words. See this FxBlue statement.
Who is the liar ?
Yours sincerely
Ortwin
Přílohy :
I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Apr 30, 2015
44 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 11:36
Cant you just say : i didnt warn people in the past About the bonus trap?
Instead of yelling : i always warn people About the bonus trap
About the fxblue statement, i Will ask them what Numbers they show.
Ask if they show peak level DD, or show the closed trades DD
I am
Off to the Candy shop, gonna buy me a lolly
Laters ortwin , or is it jay?
Instead of yelling : i always warn people About the bonus trap
About the fxblue statement, i Will ask them what Numbers they show.
Ask if they show peak level DD, or show the closed trades DD
I am
Off to the Candy shop, gonna buy me a lolly
Laters ortwin , or is it jay?
forex_trader_165856
Členem od Dec 03, 2013
599 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 11:44
@OrtwinRich Myfxbook calculates real time drawdown and records your peak drawdown in the Drawdown statistic on your systems page. Its states Drawdown: 85.37%. That means you have 14.63 Equity in your account.
You can't fool myfxbook statistics but you can try to fool others here all day long. The drawdown Graph updates daily and doesn't record intraday drawdown therefore your 45% dd graph doesn't show the true intraday drawdown.
Followers! Leverage needs to be 500:1 or the highest available leverage. Using 100:1 - 200:1 is incorrect and shouldn't have ever been used.
You can't fool myfxbook statistics but you can try to fool others here all day long. The drawdown Graph updates daily and doesn't record intraday drawdown therefore your 45% dd graph doesn't show the true intraday drawdown.
Followers! Leverage needs to be 500:1 or the highest available leverage. Using 100:1 - 200:1 is incorrect and shouldn't have ever been used.
Členem od Apr 30, 2015
44 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 11:59
RedRhinoLab posted:
@OrtwinRich Myfxbook calculates real time drawdown and records your peak drawdown in the Drawdown statistic on your systems page. Its states Drawdown: 85.37%. That means you have 14.63 Equity in your account.
You can't fool myfxbook statistics but you can try to fool others here all day long. The drawdown Graph updates daily and doesn't record intraday drawdown therefore your 45% dd graph doesn't show the true intraday drawdown.
Followers! Leverage needs to be 500:1 or the highest available leverage. Using 100:1 - 200:1 is incorrect and shouldn't have ever been used.
At least he does the best he can try to fool people!
and try make me look like an idiot.
Členem od Mar 22, 2015
32 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 14:51
That is what I mean:
Who is the liar: Ortwin is the BIG liar !!!!
PEOPLE STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM !!!
Who is the liar: Ortwin is the BIG liar !!!!
PEOPLE STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM !!!
RedRhinoLab posted:
@OrtwinRich Myfxbook calculates real time drawdown and records your peak drawdown in the Drawdown statistic on your systems page. Its states Drawdown: 85.37%. That means you have 14.63 Equity in your account.
You can't fool myfxbook statistics but you can try to fool others here all day long. The drawdown Graph updates daily and doesn't record intraday drawdown therefore your 45% dd graph doesn't show the true intraday drawdown.
Followers! Leverage needs to be 500:1 or the highest available leverage. Using 100:1 - 200:1 is incorrect and shouldn't have ever been used.
Členem od Apr 30, 2015
44 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 14:55
I am back from the Candy shop, bought me
A lollypop. Want one ortwin ?
A lollypop. Want one ortwin ?
forex_trader_165856
Členem od Dec 03, 2013
599 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 17:50
I remember taking this image because I though it may come useful in this discussion. It's not peak drawdown but clarifies the excessive drawdown that Jens doesn't want to admit to.
Členem od Apr 30, 2015
44 příspěvků
May 11, 2015 at 17:54
RedRhinoLab posted:
I remember taking this image because I though it may come useful in this discussion. It's not peak drawdown but clarifies the excessive drawdown that Jens doesn't want to admit to.
Well thank you sir !!
Now mr ortwin jay jens damberg Rich , who is the liar ??
do you stop crying now ? And go buy a lolly ?
GOTCHA !!
Členem od Apr 26, 2013
5 příspěvků
May 12, 2015 at 06:24
85% drawdown.
Přílohy :
Členem od Mar 22, 2015
32 příspěvků
May 12, 2015 at 06:29
So now everybody can see: Mr. QMC is the BIG liar !!!!!
Watch out: he is not only lying about the DD
He did NOT warn people for the bonus-trap etc. etc.
QMC = SCAM
Watch out: he is not only lying about the DD
He did NOT warn people for the bonus-trap etc. etc.
QMC = SCAM
RedRhinoLab posted:
I remember taking this image because I though it may come useful in this discussion. It's not peak drawdown but clarifies the excessive drawdown that Jens doesn't want to admit to.
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
240 příspěvků
May 12, 2015 at 07:30
(Upravené May 12, 2015 at 07:34)
RedRhinoLab posted:
I remember taking this image because I though it may come useful in this discussion. It's not peak drawdown but clarifies the excessive drawdown that Jens doesn't want to admit to.
Dear Red Rhino !
I thank you for your help! On a football game, you shot in the goal of your own team and lost !
I thank you for this chart. Now, everybody can see that I am right ! I hope you, too, Ester, Nikx and ELPulga and all the other fools.
85% of the profit and not the whole balance. THE DEPOSIT WAS NEVER EVER IN DANGER !!!
Do you fools not see that the chart starts at the level of ZERO ??? Will you say we started trading wiht 0.00 money ?
What fools are you? Learn to read a chart before you blame an honest man to be a liar?
As you can see on the chart below, it is still 45,97% Drawdown of the balance and NOT 89%. Or will you also blame MyFxBook to be a liar ???????
If you do not see the truth, than better stay away.
Or maybe you are so foolish, that you not know the difference about deposit, profit and balance.
Be quite, when you do not know, what you are talking about.
Yours Ortwin
Přílohy :
I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Mar 22, 2015
32 příspěvků
May 12, 2015 at 08:03
OrtwinRich posted:
Dear Red Rhino !
I thank you for your help! On a football game, you shot in the goal of your own team and lost !
I thank you for this chart. Now, everybody can see that I am right ! I hope you, too, Ester, Nikx and ELPulga and all the other fools.
85% of the profit and not the whole balance. THE DEPOSIT WAS NEVER EVER IN DANGER !!!
Do you fools not see that the chart starts at the level of ZERO ??? Will you say we started trading wiht 0.00 money ?
What fools are you? Learn to read a chart before you blame an honest man to be a liar?
As you can see on the chart below, it is still 45,97% Drawdown of the balance and NOT 89%. Or will you also blame MyFxBook to be a liar ???????
If you do not see the truth, than better stay away.
Or maybe you are so foolish, that you not know the difference about deposit, profit and balance.
Be quite, when you do not know, what you are talking about.
Yours Ortwin
The chart is the chart of the growth in % !
And of course you start always with 0% growth
Many people had a drawdawn of 85 % in their account and you still want people to believe it was 45 % ...
People are not stupid ...
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
240 příspěvků
May 12, 2015 at 08:09
ElPulga10 posted:OrtwinRich posted:
Dear Red Rhino !
I thank you for your help! On a football game, you shot in the goal of your own team and lost !
I thank you for this chart. Now, everybody can see that I am right ! I hope you, too, Ester, Nikx and ELPulga and all the other fools.
85% of the profit and not the whole balance. THE DEPOSIT WAS NEVER EVER IN DANGER !!!
Do you fools not see that the chart starts at the level of ZERO ??? Will you say we started trading wiht 0.00 money ?
What fools are you? Learn to read a chart before you blame an honest man to be a liar?
As you can see on the chart below, it is still 45,97% Drawdown of the balance and NOT 89%. Or will you also blame MyFxBook to be a liar ???????
If you do not see the truth, than better stay away.
Or maybe you are so foolish, that you not know the difference about deposit, profit and balance.
Be quite, when you do not know, what you are talking about.
Yours Ortwin
The chart is the chart of the growth in % !
And of course you start always with 0% growth
Many people had a drawdawn of 85 % in their account and you still want people to believe it was 45 % ...
People are not stupid ...
Dear ELPulga!
I thank you that you agree with me!
The chart shows the "Growth". I call it Profit.
No matter how we call it. 85% Drawdown of the Growth or Profit.
45.97% of the balance. You see I am not a liar and I can proof it.
It would be nice if you could apologize your bad words ! Gentleman do this !
I am happy, that we talk the same language now.
Yours Ortwin
I help others whereever I can.
