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Queens Money Collector (Od OrtwinRich)
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Členem od Apr 08, 2015
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May 12, 2015 at 08:11
I think a new tool has to be found to figure out the actual drawdown. because each site shows different draw down
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Členem od Dec 29, 2014
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May 12, 2015 at 08:18
Ortwins Happy Daily Profit Announcement:
O Happy Day 11.05.2015:
20,41 %
Please add this to our Excel File: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
Yours sincerely
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O Happy Day 11.05.2015:
20,41 %
Please add this to our Excel File: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales and Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Apr 30, 2015
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May 12, 2015 at 16:19
ElPulga10 posted:OrtwinRich posted:
Dear Red Rhino !
I thank you for your help! On a football game, you shot in the goal of your own team and lost !
I thank you for this chart. Now, everybody can see that I am right ! I hope you, too, Ester, Nikx and ELPulga and all the other fools.
85% of the profit and not the whole balance. THE DEPOSIT WAS NEVER EVER IN DANGER !!!
Do you fools not see that the chart starts at the level of ZERO ??? Will you say we started trading wiht 0.00 money ?
What fools are you? Learn to read a chart before you blame an honest man to be a liar?
As you can see on the chart below, it is still 45,97% Drawdown of the balance and NOT 89%. Or will you also blame MyFxBook to be a liar ???????
If you do not see the truth, than better stay away.
Or maybe you are so foolish, that you not know the difference about deposit, profit and balance.
Be quite, when you do not know, what you are talking about.
Yours Ortwin
The chart is the chart of the growth in % !
And of course you start always with 0% growth
Many people had a drawdawn of 85 % in their account and you still want people to believe it was 45 % ...
People are not stupid ...
Amen !!!
Členem od Aug 20, 2010
16 příspěvků
May 12, 2015 at 20:10
Reading these posts show very childish behavior on both sides. I have been burned many times and will probably be burned again. unless one is using their own trading system, you are at the mercy of the trader. buyer beware of the traders so that when things don't work out, need to look in the mirror and reassess your priorities. Fighting on here serves no purpose. with that being said, my account had a 78% dd of the ORIGINAL balance( gross balance was 1320) at the worst time of the day. I started with 1000.00 and balance was down to 283 and if one included margin, it was negative. it may have been a 45 % dd on ortwins account because he was trading earlier than most of us. you are arguing about dd when the discussion should be focused on what safety measures have been put into place so that this doesn't happen again? this time was 45% or 85 %, but next time could be 200%....
Členem od Apr 30, 2015
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May 12, 2015 at 20:27
mtraurig posted:
Reading these posts show very childish behavior on both sides. I have been burned many times and will probably be burned again. unless one is using their own trading system, you are at the mercy of the trader. buyer beware of the traders so that when things don't work out, need to look in the mirror and reassess your priorities. Fighting on here serves no purpose. with that being said, my account had a 78% dd of the ORIGINAL balance( gross balance was 1320) at the worst time of the day. I started with 1000.00 and balance was down to 283 and if one included margin, it was negative. it may have been a 45 % dd on ortwins account because he was trading earlier than most of us. you are arguing about dd when the discussion should be focused on what safety measures have been put into place so that this doesn't happen again? this time was 45% or 85 %, but next time could be 200%....
Mtraurig,
You are right , it is childish. But that started by private e-mails .
He keeps claiming he warns people About a bonus trap ( wich he doesnt did)
He keeps saying that the DD was not that high ( Well, explain me why an acount wipes out if balance is 1500€ included 350€, when equity reached 350€ cos of the DD the acount wiped out . If it was 45 or 50% DD it would not have wiped out, then equity would still be 750€. So to reach 350€ DD was a lot more then he claim.)
Nothing is his fault . HE starts acting like a child , and tell customers to go buu a lolly
Even if all settings r ok, lotscaling, leverage etc ,followed is advice exactly . Asked ESPECIALY About or i should take a bonus Yes or no
He keeps acting like a child .
Just admit he didnt warn About a bonus , just admit the DD was close to 90%
No mr Rich keeps hiding behind his lolly
Členem od Dec 04, 2010
1447 příspěvků
May 13, 2015 at 00:43
RedRhino's screen shot shows equity at 25% when he took it which means at least 75% drawdown, and we know the figure that mxfxbook gives at 85% (later that day - and now on display as the historical intraday drawdown for this system) is correct. The 45% is the end of day drawdown figure. If anyone continues to invest in this system going forward they are mad, I suggest getting out while you can before the next large drawdown event wipes out your account. The vendor can't be stupid enough to realise the intraday drawdown was 85% he's trying to mislead people into thinking it was much less. I am so glad I didn't invest in this system as I was looking at it a while back, thanks to Nikx and RedRhino for the warnings about this terrible system. I dodged a bullet here.
Členem od Mar 22, 2015
32 příspěvků
May 13, 2015 at 06:52
aeronthomas posted:
RedRhino's screen shot shows equity at 25% when he took it which means at least 75% drawdown, and we know the figure that mxfxbook gives at 85% (later that day - and now on display as the historical intraday drawdown for this system) is correct. The 45% is the end of day drawdown figure. If anyone continues to invest in this system going forward they are mad, I suggest getting out while you can before the next large drawdown event wipes out your account. The vendor can't be stupid enough to realise the intraday drawdown was 85% he's trying to mislead people into thinking it was much less. I am so glad I didn't invest in this system as I was looking at it a while back, thanks to Nikx and RedRhino for the warnings about this terrible system. I dodged a bullet here.
Correct !!
Who's gonna believe this fool anymore ? Nobody !!
So many people saw with their own eyes the DD was 85 %, and already several screenshots proof this !!!
How can you be so stupid and think all other people are crazy and still believe your yelling: 'the DD was only 45%'
So many people (without taking a bonus) wiped out their account with his 45 % DD, yeah right .....
And if you still want to use this system you can find it for free on the internet, you don't have to pay him each month 20 usd.
Mr. Ortwin aka Jens aka Jay aka .... it is time to make apologize to all the people !!!
Členem od Feb 19, 2015
54 příspěvků
May 13, 2015 at 08:47
Hey guys...there is nothing better than happiness and smartness in this world. Big profits needs logic patience and reverse martingale if you reach %25 drawdown )) so in years everyone can be rich in forex if he she is not a fool and gambler but in this world i think there are many stupid and gambler oriented people they are losers and forex %70 losers are them plus many ununexperienced traders. ))) it is only my opion i am not anyones side. The truth is human species are the most stupid creatures in this habitat of lovely earth.
Členem od Feb 19, 2015
54 příspěvků
May 13, 2015 at 08:47
So Ortwins Queens money collector has dates and all historic trades in forex factory love testing page take a calculator and calculate the Draw Down there )) easy but you have to sweat some hours maybe Copy paste is lazy and crazy business and nonsense and fool business...OBSERVE AND RESEARCH THE DATES -trades FROM 26 APRIL TO 1 MAY YOU CAN EASY see the draw down is different in forex factory real trades .so many guys can come to a conclusion if they do so.I spent 2 hours and see only 45.000 dollar drow down but i will sum all the loses and write a % number here but it is not a %75 or %85 i think it can not be in a Strong Martingale system.DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE martingale it is life and evolution diaasters comes one in a billion and martingale is %99.999999 successful in longer terms )) mathematical truth is this other incorrect. I am a civil engineer and i can not lie about it.
Členem od Feb 19, 2015
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May 13, 2015 at 13:46
Forex peace army.com draw down records are open for everyone see test results ...impressive and is minimal and great success.I am on my side .i am not a lawyer for anyone.
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
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May 14, 2015 at 05:31
(Upravené May 14, 2015 at 05:33)
Ortwins Happy Daily Profit Announcement:
O Happy Day 12.05.2015:
31,32 % 😄
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Yours sincerely
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I-Make-You-Rich.com
O Happy Day 12.05.2015:
31,32 % 😄
Please add this to our Excel File: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
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Ortwin Rich
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I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
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May 14, 2015 at 05:32
Ortwins Happy Daily Profit Announcement:
O Happy Day 13.05.2015:
44,53 % 😄
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O Happy Day 13.05.2015:
44,53 % 😄
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Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
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I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
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May 15, 2015 at 12:41
(Upravené May 15, 2015 at 12:50)
Ortwins Happy Daily Profit Announcement:
O Happy Day 14.05.2015:
44,11 % 😄
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O Happy Day 14.05.2015:
44,11 % 😄
Please add this to our Excel File: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
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I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
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May 15, 2015 at 12:50
(Upravené May 15, 2015 at 12:50)
DOUBLE CELEBRATION DAY ! 😄😄😄
5 MONTHS of HER QUEEN'S MONEY COLLECTOR with over 6900 succesful trades !
More than 1.400 % of PROFIT according to MyFXBook. More than 2.300% of Profit according to our Excel-File.
Join our Trading System on our PAMM ACCOUNT with only 100 USD or AS MUCH AS YOU WANT!
or
Trade on your own account, when you can invest 1300 USD (in the moment, increasing) to a Cent Account or 130.000 USD on a normal Forex account.
I wish you all a pips-rich trading time.
Yours Ortwin Rich
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www.I-Make-You-Rich.com
5 MONTHS of HER QUEEN'S MONEY COLLECTOR with over 6900 succesful trades !
More than 1.400 % of PROFIT according to MyFXBook. More than 2.300% of Profit according to our Excel-File.
Join our Trading System on our PAMM ACCOUNT with only 100 USD or AS MUCH AS YOU WANT!
or
Trade on your own account, when you can invest 1300 USD (in the moment, increasing) to a Cent Account or 130.000 USD on a normal Forex account.
I wish you all a pips-rich trading time.
Yours Ortwin Rich
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www.I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
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Členem od Dec 03, 2013
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May 15, 2015 at 13:12
OrtwinRich posted:RedRhinoLab posted:
I remember taking this image because I though it may come useful in this discussion. It's not peak drawdown but clarifies the excessive drawdown that Jens doesn't want to admit to.
Dear Red Rhino !
85% of the profit and not the whole balance. THE DEPOSIT WAS NEVER EVER IN DANGER !!!
Be quite, when you do not know, what you are talking about.
Yours Ortwin
Deposit not in danger? I just shared your account during the drawdown period and your equity was less than your deposit and this was taken at 75% drawdown and not even at your peak drawdown of 85%.
The fact that you are utterly clueless is disturbing.
Your equity was lower than your total deposit which means you had zero profit or months worth of profit wiped away until the markets reversed and your 10 lot positions regained your equity back to your balance level.
The only site that you can trust drawdown figures are myfxbook and only when the account updates every 5 minutes. He could have easily not updated the account until the account recovered to avoid the real scenario of what took place here. In fact you can delete your account from myfxbook and reload it to display an untrue non-intra day drawdown to keep his fairy tale going.
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
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May 15, 2015 at 13:25
Red Rhino:
Přílohy :
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May 16, 2015 at 00:54
Ortwins Happy Daily Profit Announcement:
O Happy Day 15.05.2015:
59,21% 😄 😄
Please add this to our Excel File: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales and Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
O Happy Day 15.05.2015:
59,21% 😄 😄
Please add this to our Excel File: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales and Marketing
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I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
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May 16, 2015 at 00:59
Ortwins Happy Weekly Profit Announcement:
This weeks profit:
195,58% 😄 😄 😄
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Ortwin Rich
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This weeks profit:
195,58% 😄 😄 😄
Please see our updated Excel File: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
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I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Dec 29, 2014
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May 16, 2015 at 01:12
(Upravené May 16, 2015 at 01:17)
And another time to CELEBRATE:
We cracked the 7.000 trades barrier !!!!!!!
7 . 0 0 0 succesful trades. I can't believe it.
Join our Managed Account with 100 USD, 1000 USD or 100.000 USD or as much as you like.
To see what will happen to you money:
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Please forgive us, when we do not answer this weekend.
TRIPLE CELEBRATION WEEKEND. RAISE THE SAILS !!! WE ARE COMING !!!
Yours
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We cracked the 7.000 trades barrier !!!!!!!
7 . 0 0 0 succesful trades. I can't believe it.
Join our Managed Account with 100 USD, 1000 USD or 100.000 USD or as much as you like.
To see what will happen to you money:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
Please forgive us, when we do not answer this weekend.
TRIPLE CELEBRATION WEEKEND. RAISE THE SAILS !!! WE ARE COMING !!!
Yours
I-Make-You-Rich.com TEAM
I help others whereever I can.
Členem od Feb 19, 2015
54 příspěvků
May 16, 2015 at 10:16
Red rhino you sell EA AND you have a marketing web page for investors so it is so funny about your OPPOSITION...AS A EA owner you can Draw down %99 one day and Queens can not more than %50. Time will show it. Your system can compete with Queens as a observer people can watch yours too ))
