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SleepingFX (SleepingFX)
Feb 03 2017 at 12:00
posts 59
anyone like me still have 2 open trades? I just closed one in profit.

robotchallenge
Feb 03 2017 at 14:42
posts 134
babyjake1961 posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.

That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.


Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.


I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.

Be afraid, very afraid?
Ozzie Matt (aeronthomas)
Feb 04 2017 at 01:49
posts 1557
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.

That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.


Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.


I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
so is the default maximum risk around 10% per trade, and with upto 6 trades possible it's maximum drawdown 60%, so to set maximum risk at 30% drawdown, you would just manually change the lot size to half the default lot size the EA suggests for your account size? I couldn't see under settings anywhere to set a risk per trade, for the EA to then automatically determine the lot size based on this. So as the account balance grows you would have to manually adjust the lot sizing? thanks.

robotchallenge
Feb 04 2017 at 17:01
posts 134
aeronthomas posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.

That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.


Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.


I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
so is the default maximum risk around 10% per trade, and with upto 6 trades possible it's maximum drawdown 60%, so to set maximum risk at 30% drawdown, you would just manually change the lot size to half the default lot size the EA suggests for your account size? I couldn't see under settings anywhere to set a risk per trade, for the EA to then automatically determine the lot size based on this. So as the account balance grows you would have to manually adjust the lot sizing? thanks.


I have mine set at 5% or half of default. I am assuming that 60% DD is achievable if the EA misses a few in a row, just add it up and assume the worse case scenario. And I am not really calculating 60% DD based on just missing 6 trades in one basket, I am more worried about a few baskets in a row, which will happen, and when it does, how will that look? Why the vendors account seems to have such large changes in lot size is a mystery to me since mine are adjusting smoothly with equity.

Be afraid, very afraid?
babyjake1961
Feb 05 2017 at 07:34
posts 70
SleepingFX posted:
anyone like me still have 2 open trades? I just closed one in profit.

What broker are you with?

babyjake1961
Feb 05 2017 at 07:40
posts 70
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.

That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.


Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.


I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.

Again, what would prevent you from using a smaller lot size if you can't stomach the bigger drawdowns?

SleepingFX (SleepingFX)
Feb 05 2017 at 07:56
posts 59
Hi, the last 2 trades closed in loss for me. Does anyone have new open trades like this account after NFP yesterday? I got none.

babyjake1961
Feb 05 2017 at 08:09
posts 70
aeronthomas posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.

That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.


Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.


I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
so is the default maximum risk around 10% per trade, and with upto 6 trades possible it's maximum drawdown 60%, so to set maximum risk at 30% drawdown, you would just manually change the lot size to half the default lot size the EA suggests for your account size? I couldn't see under settings anywhere to set a risk per trade, for the EA to then automatically determine the lot size based on this. So as the account balance grows you would have to manually adjust the lot sizing? thanks.

Just backtest the EA with different lot sizes to determine your personal risk preferences.

SleepingFX (SleepingFX)
Feb 05 2017 at 12:22
posts 59
babyjake1961 posted:
SleepingFX posted:
anyone like me still have 2 open trades? I just closed one in profit.

What broker are you with?


Forts, (Previous: TradeFort)

babyjake1961
Feb 05 2017 at 12:25
posts 70
SleepingFX posted:
Hi, the last 2 trades closed in loss for me. Does anyone have new open trades like this account after NFP yesterday? I got none.

Does your broker have a name?

babyjake1961
Feb 05 2017 at 12:25
posts 70
robotchallenge posted:
aeronthomas posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.

That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.


Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.


I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
so is the default maximum risk around 10% per trade, and with upto 6 trades possible it's maximum drawdown 60%, so to set maximum risk at 30% drawdown, you would just manually change the lot size to half the default lot size the EA suggests for your account size? I couldn't see under settings anywhere to set a risk per trade, for the EA to then automatically determine the lot size based on this. So as the account balance grows you would have to manually adjust the lot sizing? thanks.


I have mine set at 5% or half of default. I am assuming that 60% DD is achievable if the EA misses a few in a row, just add it up and assume the worse case scenario. And I am not really calculating 60% DD based on just missing 6 trades in one basket, I am more worried about a few baskets in a row, which will happen, and when it does, how will that look? Why the vendors account seems to have such large changes in lot size is a mystery to me since mine are adjusting smoothly with equity.

Risk preferences are a highly individual matter. We are confident about our product and trade our risk capital, so we don't mind bigger drawdowns. Quite a few EA customers like 'going all in' for short-term superprofits while others trade what they can't afford to lose. As we don't know who's who, we let them pick their risk levels on their own.

babyjake1961
Feb 05 2017 at 15:53
posts 70
SleepingFX posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
SleepingFX posted:
anyone like me still have 2 open trades? I just closed one in profit.

What broker are you with?


Forts, (Previous: TradeFort)

For the same results, we suggest the same broker we use (FXChoice).

Ozzie Matt (aeronthomas)
Feb 06 2017 at 02:47
posts 1557
babyjake1961 posted:
robotchallenge posted:
aeronthomas posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.

That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.


Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.


I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
so is the default maximum risk around 10% per trade, and with upto 6 trades possible it's maximum drawdown 60%, so to set maximum risk at 30% drawdown, you would just manually change the lot size to half the default lot size the EA suggests for your account size? I couldn't see under settings anywhere to set a risk per trade, for the EA to then automatically determine the lot size based on this. So as the account balance grows you would have to manually adjust the lot sizing? thanks.


I have mine set at 5% or half of default. I am assuming that 60% DD is achievable if the EA misses a few in a row, just add it up and assume the worse case scenario. And I am not really calculating 60% DD based on just missing 6 trades in one basket, I am more worried about a few baskets in a row, which will happen, and when it does, how will that look? Why the vendors account seems to have such large changes in lot size is a mystery to me since mine are adjusting smoothly with equity.

Risk preferences are a highly individual matter. We are confident about our product and trade our risk capital, so we don't mind bigger drawdowns. Quite a few EA customers like 'going all in' for short-term superprofits while others trade what they can't afford to lose. As we don't know who's who, we let them pick their risk levels on their own.
It would be very useful to have a max risk per trade setting in % terms so the EA could calculate the lot size for each trade based on the hard SL. Most EAs offer a feature like this. Would save a lot of time, customers really shouldn't have to run back tests to determine lot sizing...

bounty_hunt3r
Feb 06 2017 at 04:45
posts 19
To be honest, why waste time using other brokers to test or something, I am using the same brokers as the seller, and I am getting almost the same results as him.

babyjake1961
Feb 06 2017 at 07:23
posts 70
aeronthomas posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
robotchallenge posted:
aeronthomas posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
robotchallenge posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.

That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.


Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.


I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
so is the default maximum risk around 10% per trade, and with upto 6 trades possible it's maximum drawdown 60%, so to set maximum risk at 30% drawdown, you would just manually change the lot size to half the default lot size the EA suggests for your account size? I couldn't see under settings anywhere to set a risk per trade, for the EA to then automatically determine the lot size based on this. So as the account balance grows you would have to manually adjust the lot sizing? thanks.


I have mine set at 5% or half of default. I am assuming that 60% DD is achievable if the EA misses a few in a row, just add it up and assume the worse case scenario. And I am not really calculating 60% DD based on just missing 6 trades in one basket, I am more worried about a few baskets in a row, which will happen, and when it does, how will that look? Why the vendors account seems to have such large changes in lot size is a mystery to me since mine are adjusting smoothly with equity.

Risk preferences are a highly individual matter. We are confident about our product and trade our risk capital, so we don't mind bigger drawdowns. Quite a few EA customers like 'going all in' for short-term superprofits while others trade what they can't afford to lose. As we don't know who's who, we let them pick their risk levels on their own.
It would be very useful to have a max risk per trade setting in % terms so the EA could calculate the lot size for each trade based on the hard SL. Most EAs offer a feature like this. Would save a lot of time, customers really shouldn't have to run back tests to determine lot sizing...

There's no hard SL here - it's set dynamically and differs from trade to trade. So what you want is not possible.

SleepingFX (SleepingFX)
Feb 06 2017 at 07:36
posts 59
babyjake1961 posted:
SleepingFX posted:
Hi, the last 2 trades closed in loss for me. Does anyone have new open trades like this account after NFP yesterday? I got none.

Does your broker have a name?


https://www.fortfs.com/
Fort Financial Services

babyjake1961
Feb 06 2017 at 08:12
posts 70
SleepingFX posted:
babyjake1961 posted:
SleepingFX posted:
Hi, the last 2 trades closed in loss for me. Does anyone have new open trades like this account after NFP yesterday? I got none.

Does your broker have a name?


https://www.fortfs.com/
Fort Financial Services

We suggest using the same broker we do (FXChoice) for the same results.

VMAZZETTO
Feb 09 2017 at 12:42
posts 14
Please I receive a email informing about the value of 147 usd but i checked in the site the value was 347 usd

Is not 147usd ?

babyjake1961
Feb 09 2017 at 19:44
posts 70
VMAZZETTO posted:
Please I receive a email informing about the value of 147 usd but i checked in the site the value was 347 usd

Is not 147usd ?

When did you receive that email?

reinerh
Feb 09 2017 at 21:44
posts 44
how come you are not showing your gu version ??

i heard it runs quite well, almost better then eu.

or is it showing somewhere and i have not found it ??

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