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Anggota Sejak Dec 07, 2009
134 pos
Feb 03, 2017 at 14:42
Anggota Sejak Dec 07, 2009
134 pos
babyjake1961 posted:robotchallenge posted:babyjake1961 posted:That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.
Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.
I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
Be afraid, very afraid?
Anggota Sejak Dec 04, 2010
1557 pos
Feb 04, 2017 at 01:49
Anggota Sejak Dec 04, 2010
1557 pos
robotchallenge posted:so is the default maximum risk around 10% per trade, and with upto 6 trades possible it's maximum drawdown 60%, so to set maximum risk at 30% drawdown, you would just manually change the lot size to half the default lot size the EA suggests for your account size? I couldn't see under settings anywhere to set a risk per trade, for the EA to then automatically determine the lot size based on this. So as the account balance grows you would have to manually adjust the lot sizing? thanks.babyjake1961 posted:robotchallenge posted:babyjake1961 posted:That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.
Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.
I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
Anggota Sejak Dec 07, 2009
134 pos
Feb 04, 2017 at 17:01
Anggota Sejak Dec 07, 2009
134 pos
aeronthomas posted:robotchallenge posted:so is the default maximum risk around 10% per trade, and with upto 6 trades possible it's maximum drawdown 60%, so to set maximum risk at 30% drawdown, you would just manually change the lot size to half the default lot size the EA suggests for your account size? I couldn't see under settings anywhere to set a risk per trade, for the EA to then automatically determine the lot size based on this. So as the account balance grows you would have to manually adjust the lot sizing? thanks.babyjake1961 posted:robotchallenge posted:babyjake1961 posted:That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.
Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.
I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
I have mine set at 5% or half of default. I am assuming that 60% DD is achievable if the EA misses a few in a row, just add it up and assume the worse case scenario. And I am not really calculating 60% DD based on just missing 6 trades in one basket, I am more worried about a few baskets in a row, which will happen, and when it does, how will that look? Why the vendors account seems to have such large changes in lot size is a mystery to me since mine are adjusting smoothly with equity.
Be afraid, very afraid?
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
Feb 05, 2017 at 07:40
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
robotchallenge posted:Again, what would prevent you from using a smaller lot size if you can't stomach the bigger drawdowns?babyjake1961 posted:robotchallenge posted:babyjake1961 posted:That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.
Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.
I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
Anggota Sejak May 08, 2012
60 pos
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
Feb 05, 2017 at 08:09
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
aeronthomas posted:Just backtest the EA with different lot sizes to determine your personal risk preferences.robotchallenge posted:so is the default maximum risk around 10% per trade, and with upto 6 trades possible it's maximum drawdown 60%, so to set maximum risk at 30% drawdown, you would just manually change the lot size to half the default lot size the EA suggests for your account size? I couldn't see under settings anywhere to set a risk per trade, for the EA to then automatically determine the lot size based on this. So as the account balance grows you would have to manually adjust the lot sizing? thanks.babyjake1961 posted:robotchallenge posted:babyjake1961 posted:That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.
Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.
I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
Anggota Sejak May 08, 2012
60 pos
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
Feb 05, 2017 at 12:25
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
robotchallenge posted:Risk preferences are a highly individual matter. We are confident about our product and trade our risk capital, so we don't mind bigger drawdowns. Quite a few EA customers like 'going all in' for short-term superprofits while others trade what they can't afford to lose. As we don't know who's who, we let them pick their risk levels on their own.aeronthomas posted:robotchallenge posted:so is the default maximum risk around 10% per trade, and with upto 6 trades possible it's maximum drawdown 60%, so to set maximum risk at 30% drawdown, you would just manually change the lot size to half the default lot size the EA suggests for your account size? I couldn't see under settings anywhere to set a risk per trade, for the EA to then automatically determine the lot size based on this. So as the account balance grows you would have to manually adjust the lot sizing? thanks.babyjake1961 posted:robotchallenge posted:babyjake1961 posted:That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.
Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.
I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
I have mine set at 5% or half of default. I am assuming that 60% DD is achievable if the EA misses a few in a row, just add it up and assume the worse case scenario. And I am not really calculating 60% DD based on just missing 6 trades in one basket, I am more worried about a few baskets in a row, which will happen, and when it does, how will that look? Why the vendors account seems to have such large changes in lot size is a mystery to me since mine are adjusting smoothly with equity.
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
Feb 05, 2017 at 15:53
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
SleepingFX posted:For the same results, we suggest the same broker we use (FXChoice).babyjake1961 posted:SleepingFX posted:What broker are you with?
anyone like me still have 2 open trades? I just closed one in profit.
Forts, (Previous: TradeFort)
Anggota Sejak Dec 04, 2010
1557 pos
Feb 06, 2017 at 02:47
Anggota Sejak Dec 04, 2010
1557 pos
babyjake1961 posted:It would be very useful to have a max risk per trade setting in % terms so the EA could calculate the lot size for each trade based on the hard SL. Most EAs offer a feature like this. Would save a lot of time, customers really shouldn't have to run back tests to determine lot sizing...robotchallenge posted:Risk preferences are a highly individual matter. We are confident about our product and trade our risk capital, so we don't mind bigger drawdowns. Quite a few EA customers like 'going all in' for short-term superprofits while others trade what they can't afford to lose. As we don't know who's who, we let them pick their risk levels on their own.aeronthomas posted:robotchallenge posted:so is the default maximum risk around 10% per trade, and with upto 6 trades possible it's maximum drawdown 60%, so to set maximum risk at 30% drawdown, you would just manually change the lot size to half the default lot size the EA suggests for your account size? I couldn't see under settings anywhere to set a risk per trade, for the EA to then automatically determine the lot size based on this. So as the account balance grows you would have to manually adjust the lot sizing? thanks.babyjake1961 posted:robotchallenge posted:babyjake1961 posted:That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.
Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.
I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
I have mine set at 5% or half of default. I am assuming that 60% DD is achievable if the EA misses a few in a row, just add it up and assume the worse case scenario. And I am not really calculating 60% DD based on just missing 6 trades in one basket, I am more worried about a few baskets in a row, which will happen, and when it does, how will that look? Why the vendors account seems to have such large changes in lot size is a mystery to me since mine are adjusting smoothly with equity.
Anggota Sejak Aug 16, 2016
19 pos
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
Feb 06, 2017 at 07:23
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
aeronthomas posted:There's no hard SL here - it's set dynamically and differs from trade to trade. So what you want is not possible.babyjake1961 posted:It would be very useful to have a max risk per trade setting in % terms so the EA could calculate the lot size for each trade based on the hard SL. Most EAs offer a feature like this. Would save a lot of time, customers really shouldn't have to run back tests to determine lot sizing...robotchallenge posted:Risk preferences are a highly individual matter. We are confident about our product and trade our risk capital, so we don't mind bigger drawdowns. Quite a few EA customers like 'going all in' for short-term superprofits while others trade what they can't afford to lose. As we don't know who's who, we let them pick their risk levels on their own.aeronthomas posted:robotchallenge posted:so is the default maximum risk around 10% per trade, and with upto 6 trades possible it's maximum drawdown 60%, so to set maximum risk at 30% drawdown, you would just manually change the lot size to half the default lot size the EA suggests for your account size? I couldn't see under settings anywhere to set a risk per trade, for the EA to then automatically determine the lot size based on this. So as the account balance grows you would have to manually adjust the lot sizing? thanks.babyjake1961 posted:robotchallenge posted:babyjake1961 posted:That is true but the default settings are scary! It will hit 60% drawdown with 10% risk.
While the remaining 3 closed in hefty profit.
Have you backtested the EA? Further, one can set any lot size they like.
I can see by the available live accounts, had the last trades all lost then about a 60% DD would have been easily achievable. A backtest isn't needed to find the obvious. It is inevitable.
I have mine set at 5% or half of default. I am assuming that 60% DD is achievable if the EA misses a few in a row, just add it up and assume the worse case scenario. And I am not really calculating 60% DD based on just missing 6 trades in one basket, I am more worried about a few baskets in a row, which will happen, and when it does, how will that look? Why the vendors account seems to have such large changes in lot size is a mystery to me since mine are adjusting smoothly with equity.
Anggota Sejak May 08, 2012
60 pos
Feb 06, 2017 at 07:36
Anggota Sejak May 08, 2012
60 pos
babyjake1961 posted:SleepingFX posted:Does your broker have a name?
Hi, the last 2 trades closed in loss for me. Does anyone have new open trades like this account after NFP yesterday? I got none.
https://www.fortfs.com/
Fort Financial Services
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
Feb 06, 2017 at 08:12
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
SleepingFX posted:We suggest using the same broker we do (FXChoice) for the same results.babyjake1961 posted:SleepingFX posted:Does your broker have a name?
Hi, the last 2 trades closed in loss for me. Does anyone have new open trades like this account after NFP yesterday? I got none.
https://www.fortfs.com/
Fort Financial Services
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
Anggota Sejak Mar 31, 2016
70 pos
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