The future of Crypto

togr posted:
A lot of guys consider crypto as simply spending fiat to buy BTC.
World of crypto is much more diverse. If you want to hodl why not buy XRP which is going to be used by international banks to settle transactions.

togr posted:
The problem with BTC vs. fiat price drops is not the investors losing money.
Good trader makes money shorting the asset as well.
The real issue lies with miners.
The level where BTC mining brings profit is around $6,000.
If the price stands below that level for long time, a lot of miners will be OOB.
The exception: Chinese mining companies are still profitable around $1500-$2000.
So problem solved?
No. The problem is blockchain is independent only when none is able to control more than 50% of miners.
And that could happen in China.

Your thoughts?

niceGLer posted:

togr posted:
A lot of guys consider crypto as simply spending fiat to buy BTC.
World of crypto is much more diverse. If you want to hodl why not buy XRP which is going to be used by international banks to settle transactions.

This is interesting: Where did you get this info? Could you cite us the source?

Jdimitrov posted:

togr posted:
The problem with BTC vs. fiat price drops is not the investors losing money.
Good trader makes money shorting the asset as well.
The real issue lies with miners.
The level where BTC mining brings profit is around $6,000.
If the price stands below that level for long time, a lot of miners will be OOB.
The exception: Chinese mining companies are still profitable around $1500-$2000.
So problem solved?
No. The problem is blockchain is independent only when none is able to control more than 50% of miners.
And that could happen in China.

Your thoughts?

That is a very interesting comment about the discrepancy in mining costs leading to control of BTC. But even is Chinese miners held 50% they would not necessarily be all working together. If they did then it would need to be kept secret otherwise the interest in BTC would collapse. So achieving control would be extremely difficult in practice

Treeny posted:
Thousands of alternatives these days

CRPA9 posted:
Bitcoin is at a great accumulation price currently :) Market cycles, thats all it is.

Adribaasmet posted:

CRPA9 posted:
Bitcoin is at a great accumulation price currently :) Market cycles, thats all it is.

I see, so many unrealistic expectations like 100 000$ (per bitcoin). By the way, I am really excited to see the movements of BTC.

togr posted:
The reward for mining BTC will halve soon. https://bitcoinblockhalf.com/
This will actually lead to increase of BTC price as supply of BTC decrease and it will become more rare.
Also the total amount of BTC mined ever would be close to 21,000,000 so as quite rare comodity I exepct the price will go up.
Just I am not able to tell when :)
I might be good time to buy now and wait. I think $4,000 investment could bring you 40,000 or even 100,000 and still you risk just these 4,000.

togr posted:
The reward for mining BTC will halve soon. https://bitcoinblockhalf.com/
This will actually lead to increase of BTC price as supply of BTC decrease and it will become more rare.
Also the total amount of BTC mined ever would be close to 21,000,000 so as quite rare comodity I exepct the price will go up.
Just I am not able to tell when :)
I might be good time to buy now and wait. I think $4,000 investment could bring you 40,000 or even 100,000 and still you risk just these 4,000.

Saif59 posted:

togr posted:
The reward for mining BTC will halve soon. https://bitcoinblockhalf.com/
This will actually lead to increase of BTC price as supply of BTC decrease and it will become more rare.
Also the total amount of BTC mined ever would be close to 21,000,000 so as quite rare comodity I exepct the price will go up.
Just I am not able to tell when :)
I might be good time to buy now and wait. I think $4,000 investment could bring you 40,000 or even 100,000 and still you risk just these 4,000.

Do you not think that interest in BTC could dwindle due to other crypto currencies and awkwardness of using BTC. This could cause price to fall even if all the factors you say are true?

Adolis posted:
Honestly who know in past that it will cost that much at the moment ? If you had a chance to get back in time and buy some would you do it like 7 years ago or so ? I bet you would so do I. I am still buying some cheaper currencies like Litecoin from time to time, hope I have a time to market rise in future.

togr posted:

Adolis posted:
Honestly who know in past that it will cost that much at the moment ? If you had a chance to get back in time and buy some would you do it like 7 years ago or so ? I bet you would so do I. I am still buying some cheaper currencies like Litecoin from time to time, hope I have a time to market rise in future.

There is common misunderstanding that crypto is equal to buying BTC for USD and hodling.
It is not. There are so much more other currencies to trade.