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會員從Dec 29, 2014開始
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May 08, 2015 at 08:46
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Babaji posted:
Boum! Account blown up. But I do not understand why vendor's account did not, as my setting was precise.
Dear Babajy!
I am sorry to read this. But the actual DD was only 45% and not 80%
To proof that got here http://www.myfxbook.com/members/OrtwinRich/queens-money-collector/1111097
Click on DRAWDOWN tab above the chart. Move your mouse on the highest red bar. Than you will see 45,97%
When only 45% DD wiped out your account, you probably run into the bonus trap.
The Broker cancels the bonus and your account runs immediatly out of money and your trades are stopped out.
We always warn about to take a bonus. When you take it, do not calculate it as your initial balance.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
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May 08, 2015 at 08:50
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thenewguy posted:
lol don't worry, hell be here in a few days congratulating everyone on how he made 250% for the week, and all the people with blown accounts, according to him it will be youre fault since you didn't read instructions properly, or didn't have internet connection or......you know what I mean lol
He should be back from his Disney vacation anyday now
Hello New Guy!
You caught me! I made a mistake: I wrote 250% a week. But I meant 250% per month, of course.
1000% in 4 month is 250% per month!
Sorry, Man!
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
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May 08, 2015 at 08:51
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Archon posted:
Well that was close, still got my account :) Drawdown 2%
I'm sorry for you people who lost accounts
Dear Archon !
That was not close !
We were far away from being wiped or stopped out.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
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May 08, 2015 at 08:53
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braddock posted:
a DD till 50-60 % is ok with a grid or martingale, but not 85% because with a leverage 1:500 trades will be closed.
Dear Braddock!
Thanks for your post!
We ALWAYS tell to go NEVER,EVER higher than 1:200 with the leverage.
The leverage is an instrument of the brokers to wipe out your account.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
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May 08, 2015 at 08:55
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didzis1985 posted:
Need to reduce DD,
although looks like a good strategy.
Hello Didzis!
Thank you for your post!
We have a very good strategy. It makes fantastic profits.
It took as some years to make it.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
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May 08, 2015 at 08:58
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estherhelmond posted:
yesterday my account blew up. send email, because i was worried. no response,..... all settings were OK. lotscaling,.internet connection ok,. just a leverage of 1:100,... and all my money is gone. thx
grttssss esther
Dear Esther!
We already solved your problem and found out what happened:
You run into the bonus trap.
The Broker cancels the bonus and your account runs immediatly out of money and your trades were stopped out.
We always warn about to take a bonus. When you take it, do not calculate it as your initial balance.
Your friends should have warned you, too. We told them before.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
May 08, 2015 at 09:01
會員從May 03, 2012開始
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OrtwinRich posted:braddock posted:
a DD till 50-60 % is ok with a grid or martingale, but not 85% because with a leverage 1:500 trades will be closed.
Dear Braddock!
Thanks for your post!
We ALWAYS tell to go NEVER,EVER higher than 1:200 with the leverage.
The leverage is an instrument of the brokers to wipe out your account.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
Thats not true, in the beginning of this thread you said a minimum leverage of 1:500 is needed!
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May 08, 2015 at 09:04
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mtraurig posted:
I was waiting for this and hoping not to happen. I am sorry to all who lost account. my account is ok and mirrors the myfxbook one. I have also emailed him with no reply.... hhhmmm
Hello Michael!
I thank you for your post!
This shows that not everybody looses with our robot. We have many dozends of successful members.
When you follow our advice and read what we write than you can succeed.
Only those, which do not follow our instructions are loosing.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
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May 08, 2015 at 09:10
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braddock posted:OrtwinRich posted:braddock posted:
a DD till 50-60 % is ok with a grid or martingale, but not 85% because with a leverage 1:500 trades will be closed.
Dear Braddock!
Thanks for your post!
We ALWAYS tell to go NEVER,EVER higher than 1:200 with the leverage.
The leverage is an instrument of the brokers to wipe out your account.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
Thats not true, in the beginning of this thread you said a minimum leverage of 1:500 is needed!
Dear Braddock !
I just scanned the first 8 pages of this thread! I can not find it.
Could you be a little more precis ?
Yours Ortwin
I help others whereever I can.
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May 08, 2015 at 09:13
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InvestorFX2 posted:
If you want to reduce your DD, work out the Lot Scaling according to Ortwin's formula, then reduce it. For example, I use 40% of the Master Account risk, so my maximum end-of-day DD was 20% instead of the 50% of the Master Account. Obviously my monthly profit is only 40% of the Master Account, but at least I sleep well and 40% of Master account profit is still a very good return compared with anything else I know.
Dear Investor!
Thank you. A good advice!
But the most people do not read or do not accept good advices. It is too bad.
Yours Ortwin
I help others whereever I can.
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May 08, 2015 at 09:14
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toon posted:
my account also blew up... i just payed 20 dollars for nxt month,.. send email to ortwin, but no answer.
grtss toon
Helllo Toon!
I DID anser your and we already discovered the problem you had:
Bonus Trap!
Yours Ortwin
I help others whereever I can.
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May 08, 2015 at 09:16
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estherhelmond posted:
a friend of mine, Toon,. also blew up his royal queens money collector,.. also emaild ortwin,. also got no answer,. all his settings were ok as well. he just payed yesterday his monthly 20 dollars,....... very sad,. no stop loss,. i think its better to go to the casino and putt your money on black or red . any EA advice ortwin ? black or red ?
grtsss
Dear Esther!
You should have listened to your friends who helped you with our Robot and your account. The knew about the bonus trap.
Yours Ortwin
I help others whereever I can.
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May 08, 2015 at 09:21
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josesolia777 posted:
Another thing to consider on this trade copier being used is to use the MAXDRAWDOWNPERCENT for instance which prevents the copier from opening more trades after exceeding this threshold. My friend has an account on this signal and asked me to help him configure this EA, i set his maxdrawdown @50% and his lotscaling at .9 and excluded the roboFX bonus given as it's not money. His account maxed out at a arount 6o% but it did not continue to open more trades until blowing up as some I am sure did, he is using using 200:1 account. Now the counterside is that because the last martingale recover trades that this signal used to create profit were not opened since the drawdown went so high so when the overall trades were close about 50% of the last month's profit were lost.. but hey that's Ok, as the account is still intact and the month is still up a 22% profit. I think INvestorFX2 has maybe a better setting/approach for most. I am now adjusting my friend's EA set file to use .7 lotscaling and I will keep the 50% maxdrawdownpercent also.
I am sure that anyone who was using BONUS in their lotscaling calculations were probably wiped out with the high drawdown. Bonus is for suckers IMHO but I mean no insult, almost no average users ever consider why the brokers give them free margin...and this is another realworld example of how traders get tripped up, notice I did not say ripped off. It's every traders decision what they allow or do with their own money.
Sorry for those who got burned but it's a very risky signal and there is no other way to say it.
Dear Jose!
I thank you for your long post!
We do not recommend to do any adjustsments to the Robot than LotScaling. Do not take a bonus or do not take in in your calculation for the LotScaling.
Then your account will survive with profit
Yours Ortwin
Sales and Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
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May 08, 2015 at 09:25
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estherhelmond posted:
We , a couple of friends asked Ortwin before we started, if he recommand to take the maximum bonus.
And asked what the risk is . He said that the maximum bonus is no problem, but that it only takes more time till you can withdraw your money . So , on his advice we took the bonus . Set lotscaling like it should be, i had 1460€ balance and lotscaling 0.7 , leverage 1:100
My friend had 1050€ balance and lotscaling 0.5 , leverage 1:100
Other friend had 1600€ balance , lotscaling 0.8 , leverage 1:100
All three of us accounts we blew up.
As is read now here , it is risky to take a bonus at the broker, but why... Why ... Didnt ortwin say that ?
Like i said, we personaly asked his advice ( Yes we are noobs, thats why we asked)
But only thing was , no problem.. Just your money is bound longer.
Grts Esther
Dear Esther!
Your good friend M. wiped out his account some weeks ago, because of the bonus trap. Than he started again.
Why did he do the same error again.
Sorry to read that here.
Yours Ortwin
Sales and Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
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May 08, 2015 at 10:15
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START a MANAGED ACCOUNT with 100 USD only.
We were quite busy the last days to find a solution for all these people who do not have 1000 or 2000 USD in their pockets to start trading with us. And also for those who are not accepted by a Broker who offers Cent Accounts.
Therefore we came to the idea to open a new Managed Account which runs on our server and with our Robot.
You can start with 100 USD only. But you can invest as much as you want.
It is also new that you can start whenever you want. Our new calclulation system calclulates with "Parts"
1 USD x 1 Day = 1 Part
Example:
Adam invests 1.000 USD for 30 days = 30.000 Parts
Brigitte invests 500 USD for 30 days = 15.000 Parts
Charles invests 100 USD for 15 days = 1.500 Parts
Daniel invests 100 USD for 120 days = 12.000 Parts
Profit of this month: 1.000 USD
Total Parts: 58.500
Profit for Adam 512.82 - 102.56 Fee = Payout 410.26
Profit for Brigitte 256.41 - 51.28 = 205.13
Profit for Charles 25.64 - 5.13 = 20.51
Profit for Daniel 205.13 - 41.03 = 164.10
We think, we invented the most fair, trustful and reliabe payback system for our Managed Account.
For more info, please visit our homepage. I-Make-You-Rich.com
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
We were quite busy the last days to find a solution for all these people who do not have 1000 or 2000 USD in their pockets to start trading with us. And also for those who are not accepted by a Broker who offers Cent Accounts.
Therefore we came to the idea to open a new Managed Account which runs on our server and with our Robot.
You can start with 100 USD only. But you can invest as much as you want.
It is also new that you can start whenever you want. Our new calclulation system calclulates with "Parts"
1 USD x 1 Day = 1 Part
Example:
Adam invests 1.000 USD for 30 days = 30.000 Parts
Brigitte invests 500 USD for 30 days = 15.000 Parts
Charles invests 100 USD for 15 days = 1.500 Parts
Daniel invests 100 USD for 120 days = 12.000 Parts
Profit of this month: 1.000 USD
Total Parts: 58.500
Profit for Adam 512.82 - 102.56 Fee = Payout 410.26
Profit for Brigitte 256.41 - 51.28 = 205.13
Profit for Charles 25.64 - 5.13 = 20.51
Profit for Daniel 205.13 - 41.03 = 164.10
We think, we invented the most fair, trustful and reliabe payback system for our Managed Account.
For more info, please visit our homepage. I-Make-You-Rich.com
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
會員從Apr 30, 2015開始
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May 08, 2015 at 16:43
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OrtwinRich posted:Babaji posted:
Boum! Account blown up. But I do not understand why vendor's account did not, as my setting was precise.
Dear Babajy!
I am sorry to read this. But the actual DD was only 45% and not 80%
To proof that got here http://www.myfxbook.com/members/OrtwinRich/queens-money-collector/1111097
Click on DRAWDOWN tab above the chart. Move your mouse on the highest red bar. Than you will see 45,97%
When only 45% DD wiped out your account, you probably run into the bonus trap.
The Broker cancels the bonus and your account runs immediatly out of money and your trades are stopped out.
We always warn about to take a bonus. When you take it, do not calculate it as your initial balance.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I asked you Ortwin BEFORE i started : " Shouf i take the bonus ? Max bonus? Why yes ? Why not?
Your only answer was. "Bonus is ok but your money is bound "
Is That a warning ???
Grtss Esther
會員從Apr 30, 2015開始
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May 08, 2015 at 16:43
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OrtwinRich posted:braddock posted:
a DD till 50-60 % is ok with a grid or martingale, but not 85% because with a leverage 1:500 trades will be closed.
Dear Braddock!
Thanks for your post!
We ALWAYS tell to go NEVER,EVER higher than 1:200 with the leverage.
The leverage is an instrument of the brokers to wipe out your account.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
Now That is true ! Ortwin told me after i asked in my case to set leverage to 1:100 . And if i would have same balance as master i Could set it to 1:200
So 1:500 is your OWN misstake
Grts Esther
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May 08, 2015 at 16:44
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OrtwinRich posted:estherhelmond posted:
yesterday my account blew up. send email, because i was worried. no response,..... all settings were OK. lotscaling,.internet connection ok,. just a leverage of 1:100,... and all my money is gone. thx
grttssss esther
Dear Esther!
We already solved your problem and found out what happened:
You run into the bonus trap.
The Broker cancels the bonus and your account runs immediatly out of money and your trades were stopped out.
We always warn about to take a bonus. When you take it, do not calculate it as your initial balance.
Your friends should have warned you, too. We told them before.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
Solved my problem ?
and i asked YOU if i Shouf take bonus yes or no ... No warning
Grts Esther
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May 08, 2015 at 16:44
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I asked EVERYTHING , before i started . How to set lotscaling ? Leverage ? Just to make sure i didnt make ANY misstake .
I asked so much i almost felt like i was a stalker .
i asked ESPECIALY about the bonus . Yes bonus ? Not bonus ?
You didnt warn me , you didnt warn my friends . You just Said : " bonus is no problem , only your money is bound"
After That i took max bonus ,
If you told me or us : STAY AWAY FROM BONUS TRAP !!!!!! we would not took ANY bonus .
I have the email to proof you said That .
No warning about ANY bonus .
And my problem is not solved . Yes now i know why the account blew up . Cos you DIDNT warn me or us.
Be a man, solve it , or at least commit That i asked you all i Could . And That you mis informed me about bonus .
Dont hide behind a tree and say you DID warn me , or That OTHERS Shouf have warn me . THEY ALSO BLEW THEIR ACCOUNT !!
grts Esther
I asked so much i almost felt like i was a stalker .
i asked ESPECIALY about the bonus . Yes bonus ? Not bonus ?
You didnt warn me , you didnt warn my friends . You just Said : " bonus is no problem , only your money is bound"
After That i took max bonus ,
If you told me or us : STAY AWAY FROM BONUS TRAP !!!!!! we would not took ANY bonus .
I have the email to proof you said That .
No warning about ANY bonus .
And my problem is not solved . Yes now i know why the account blew up . Cos you DIDNT warn me or us.
Be a man, solve it , or at least commit That i asked you all i Could . And That you mis informed me about bonus .
Dont hide behind a tree and say you DID warn me , or That OTHERS Shouf have warn me . THEY ALSO BLEW THEIR ACCOUNT !!
grts Esther
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May 08, 2015 at 16:44
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OrtwinRich posted:estherhelmond posted:
We , a couple of friends asked Ortwin before we started, if he recommand to take the maximum bonus.
And asked what the risk is . He said that the maximum bonus is no problem, but that it only takes more time till you can withdraw your money . So , on his advice we took the bonus . Set lotscaling like it should be, i had 1460€ balance and lotscaling 0.7 , leverage 1:100
My friend had 1050€ balance and lotscaling 0.5 , leverage 1:100
Other friend had 1600€ balance , lotscaling 0.8 , leverage 1:100
All three of us accounts we blew up.
As is read now here , it is risky to take a bonus at the broker, but why... Why ... Didnt ortwin say that ?
Like i said, we personaly asked his advice ( Yes we are noobs, thats why we asked)
But only thing was , no problem.. Just your money is bound longer.
Grts Esther
Dear Esther!
Your good friend M. wiped out his account some weeks ago, because of the bonus trap. Than he started again.
Why did he do the same error again.
Sorry to read that here.
Yours Ortwin
Sales and Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com
My good friend M . Wiped out because of lotscaling you know That ! That was his OWN misstake .

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