Queens Money Collector討論

OrtwinRich posted:

Babaji posted:
Boum! Account blown up. But I do not understand why vendor's account did not, as my setting was precise.

Dear Babajy!

I am sorry to read this. But the actual DD was only 45% and not 80%

To proof that got here http://www.myfxbook.com/members/OrtwinRich/queens-money-collector/1111097

Click on DRAWDOWN tab above the chart. Move your mouse on the highest red bar. Than you will see 45,97%

When only 45% DD wiped out your account, you probably run into the bonus trap.
The Broker cancels the bonus and your account runs immediatly out of money and your trades are stopped out.

We always warn about to take a bonus. When you take it, do not calculate it as your initial balance.

Yours sincerely

Ortwin Rich
Sales & Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com

OrtwinRich posted:
Dear Esther!

I can understand that you are not amused.

When I write "we solved the problem", I mean we find out what caused, that your account is wiped out.

So, please stop crying like a little baby, which does not get the big red lolly and let us continue to make money.
Isn't it that you want to do?

We offer a Managed Account now, where you can start with a litte amount of just 100 USD.

You don't have to have a PC or Internet. You don't have to take care of LotsScaling, Drawdown, Bonus a.s.o.
We do everything what is needed to make money for you.

For more info see our homepage.

Yours sincerely

Ortwin Rich
Sales and Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com

estherhelmond posted:

OrtwinRich posted:
Dear Esther!

I can understand that you are not amused.

When I write "we solved the problem", I mean we find out what caused, that your account is wiped out.

So, please stop crying like a little baby, which does not get the big red lolly and let us continue to make money.
Isn't it that you want to do?

We offer a Managed Account now, where you can start with a litte amount of just 100 USD.

You don't have to have a PC or Internet. You don't have to take care of LotsScaling, Drawdown, Bonus a.s.o.
We do everything what is needed to make money for you.

For more info see our homepage.

Yours sincerely

Ortwin Rich
Sales and Marketing
I-Make-You-Rich.com

I cry like a little baby , because you are a liar . If you were a real man with balls , you should say " sorry i didnt warn you about the bonus" instead of That you are now yelling That you always do and did warn people about the bonus trap.

I ESPECIALY asked you about the bonus , and you didnt warn me before i asked you, AND didnt warn me when i asked about it .
you didnt warn me ,toon, mories . I just asked another friend of me Ronny , and again ... you also DIDNT warn him about a bonus trap.

It is never your misstake , you hide behind wrong settings ,lotscaling , leverage , bonus trap etc .

You didnt warn people in the past , i hope you do in the future .

And about the Major DD . You claim That DD was around 45%.

The broker cancel bonus amount if equity of the acount , is equal or less then bonus amount .
In my case , because i had maximum bonus and i just started , my acount wiped out very early . BUT my friend Mories who was longer aboard , he had a Total balance in his acount of 1500€ (150000 cents) including 350€ (35000 cents )bonus.
His acount wiped out when because of the DD his equity reached 350€(35000cemts), thats when the broker canceld his bonus and blew up the acount .

So far, so good . All his settings were ok . Lotscaling 0.7 , leverage 1:100

If the DD was only 45% his acount was stil alive and kicking . So the actual DD must have been much much higher .
The real DD was so high at one moment , That his equity was as low as 350€ .

I am not That great in calculating , but when 1500€ drops to 350€ it is MUCH more DD then 45%. its is a DD somewhere around 70%
Correct me when i am wrong .

I dont know how you manipulated your stats on fxblue , but i know you did . At one point almost the master acount was close to wipe out . The master (your acount) on fxblue showed at 29/4 your balance 209918.16 and equity was 28861.31 ( 2100$ balance ,286$ equity ) thats a DD around 85% . ( i have a screenshot to proof )

Now mr Ortwin rich ( jens damberg) stop crying like a little baby . Admit you didnt warn people about a bonus trap . Admit your DD was 85% ( i admit you did Well in the end and came back strong after the big DD )

Grts Esther

Babaji posted:
Ortwin wrote:
"I am sorry to read this. But the actual DD was only 45% and not 80%
"To proof that got here http://www.myfxbook.com/members/OrtwinRich/queens-money-collector/1111097
"Click on DRAWDOWN tab above the chart. Move your mouse on the highest red bar. Than you will see 45,97%
"When only 45% DD wiped out your account, you probably run into the bonus trap."The Broker cancels the bonus and your account runs immediatly out of money and your trades are stopped out."



Ortwin,

I may appreciate the enthusiasm that you use in your answers, and maybe you were on vacation that day, but I was at the computer while the 'drama' was unfolding. And when I saw the situation was becoming bad, I opened MyFxBook to see what was happening to the 'official' Queens.

In that moment the drawdown signed on the screen (the chart with the yellow line) was 75% and I did not follow further, as I was busy monitoring my account, but the situation got worse by the minute and I could imagine that the number got higher than that. (And it did, indeed)

Now looks clear to me that MyFxBook puts in the charts the DD that was at the end of the day and not the top (or the bottom), but this is misleading (English understatement, but closer to cheat IMHO). It is like saying that you shot me in the head, but because the bullet went through and ended up in a wall, there is no reason for me to complain, because the bullet is not in my head but in the wall and a bullet in a wall cannot be dangerous to me.

And to limit the BS that can be around, please follow the suggestion that you are giving me, go that page of MyFxBook: at the left of the chart you can read all those numbers like ‘balance’ and ‘equity’ and you will read also the real DD, the real number that Queen reached that day: 85.37%
Do we see that same number anywhere else? No. ONLY there. And this maybe is a fault of MyFxBook.

Surely the graph on the page of DD says 45, but that was at the end of the day.

Aside the fact that if the news a bit later had been just a bit ambiguous the relative whipsaw would have cancelled all the accounts around.


For you further information: I had already been hit by the bonus trap some time ago and this was not the case.

When I say that my setting was precise I mean precise. 1.000$ when the master was less than 2.000. A perfect 0.5 setting. My balance read 2.150$ because of the bonus, but I didn't count it.

Why the difference between the master and my account?
I can only guess that the answer is in the number of messages that I received that “xxx order was already closed”. Can be - but it is just a guess - that for some reason the master EA was looking for the order to change the TP and for unknown reason my EA had already closed it, while your EA was keeping it open, leaving space to improvement of the TP.

I ran Queens on a VPS and I ran it from home, but I had the same amount of messages anyway.


Ortwin, please, be careful in your answers, you are the representative of Queens on this site and an atmosphere of serene understanding, more than straight critic, would not hurt.
In your instructions, for example, there is not a word about the bonus trap and I think you should address this problem.

Truly yours