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Arbatov System (By Arbatov)
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Arbatov System Discussion
Member Since Jun 16, 2010
198 posts
Aug 23, 2010 at 20:13
Until now, I can only say that I've had positive experiences with them.
But, lets see how they act when I withdraw a million $, haha (might take me a few years)...😎
Cheers
Soeren
But, lets see how they act when I withdraw a million $, haha (might take me a few years)...😎
Cheers
Soeren
Always get cashback -
Aug 23, 2010 at 20:44
Hahahaha, true.
Ever heard that adage that where there's smoke there's fire ...
I would not pay to see ... hehehe.
I've had in Basel Financial account, when it appeared from comments that they were not paying, I pulled my capital in weeks, the rumor was confirmed.
Ever heard that adage that where there's smoke there's fire ...
I would not pay to see ... hehehe.
I've had in Basel Financial account, when it appeared from comments that they were not paying, I pulled my capital in weeks, the rumor was confirmed.
Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1409 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 08:03
(edited Aug 24, 2010 at 08:03)
I think it's clear that InstaForex are not one of the better brokers.
However, there have definitely been withdrawals made by people using Arbatov's system, so they do pay out.
There are other people who have indicated on here that they have paid them as well.
The findings of FPA revolve around one specific case as far as I can tell. So statistically they pay out a lot more than they don't pay out.
If there was a whole horde of people screaming "They didn't pay out", I might be more concerned. If you hunt far enough you will find people saying pretty much any broker has caused them problems as Soeren says.
Until Arbatov starts a PAMM with a more reputable broker then this is all there is I guess folks.
However, there have definitely been withdrawals made by people using Arbatov's system, so they do pay out.
There are other people who have indicated on here that they have paid them as well.
The findings of FPA revolve around one specific case as far as I can tell. So statistically they pay out a lot more than they don't pay out.
If there was a whole horde of people screaming "They didn't pay out", I might be more concerned. If you hunt far enough you will find people saying pretty much any broker has caused them problems as Soeren says.
Until Arbatov starts a PAMM with a more reputable broker then this is all there is I guess folks.
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Member Since Feb 16, 2010
1305 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 08:13
(edited Aug 24, 2010 at 08:13)
Yeah, until we're talking about few hundred to thousand it's ok. But no way of me opening larger(few k) account with them. I would also like to apologise Arbatov for my initial criticism because he appears to be pretty consistent and polite.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
Aug 24, 2010 at 08:46
There's an old russian saying - to know a person, one must eat a pud of salt with him. That's 16 kilograms. Maybe you need more than 44 trades to tell if it's consistent or not. So far it's breathtaking indeed.
Mr. Arbatov takes abuse rather well. Some people like to rub it in, even if there's no wound.
Mr. Arbatov takes abuse rather well. Some people like to rub it in, even if there's no wound.
Surround yourself with people whose eyes light up when they see you and who have no agenda for your reform.
Member Since Feb 16, 2010
1305 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 08:53
(edited Aug 24, 2010 at 08:57)
speki posted:
There's an old russian saying - to know a person, one must eat a pud of salt with him. That's 16 kilograms. Maybe you need more than 44 trades to tell if it's consistent or not. So far it's breathtaking indeed.
Mr. Arbatov takes abuse rather well. Some people like to rub it in, even if there's no wound.
What I cherish most in people is the sense of humour and the ability to and how they accept criticism. Criticism fires the worst in every person and it's a test of nerves. Arbatov shows he has nerves of steel and that's a must in the forex world. Yes, 44 trades are not so much but he's fine, only 1 negative performance day, no high floating losses. So far, so good. The only big minus is Insta as a broker.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1409 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 08:56
One of the main reasons I now have some faith in Arbatov's trading is due to his relaxed attitude and self belief. It would seem that he's mastered the inner game required to trade successfully.
He's handled all requests politely and honestly and done his best to investigate suggestions and address people's concerns.
He's quite prepared to take a loss if he got it wrong and generally comes back with a winner to end the day up.
I even enjoy deciphering his English.
Keep it up Arbatov!
He's handled all requests politely and honestly and done his best to investigate suggestions and address people's concerns.
He's quite prepared to take a loss if he got it wrong and generally comes back with a winner to end the day up.
I even enjoy deciphering his English.
Keep it up Arbatov!
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Member Since Feb 10, 2010
24 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 11:18
Thumb up to you Arbatov.
Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1409 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 14:07
Arbatov, slightly concerned that your PAMM account is showing a total wipe on Instaforex. What happened?
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Member Since Aug 20, 2010
55 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 14:09
(edited Aug 24, 2010 at 14:09)
Did Arbatov just blow up all the traders account?!!
http://instaforex.com/pamm_monitoring.php?user=170738
http://instaforex.com/pamm_monitoring.php?user=170738
Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1409 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 14:12
Looks that way
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1409 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 14:17
Look at the individual investors profits
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Aug 24, 2010 at 14:22
I have a suspicion he might have traded H4 ranges, betting on reversal. Last time he took a hit, GJ broke to the upside. This time, downside.
We'll see, maybe he can martingale out. And if not, then Mr. Heslop cleverly said in another topic, "No stress, it was margin call only"
We'll see, maybe he can martingale out. And if not, then Mr. Heslop cleverly said in another topic, "No stress, it was margin call only"
Surround yourself with people whose eyes light up when they see you and who have no agenda for your reform.
Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1409 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 14:24
There's nothing left to martingale out with for his investors, this is not the same account as his PAMM account. His PAMM account is empty. Wiped. Finito.
Unless I'm totally misunderstanding the way InstaForex present their data.
Unless I'm totally misunderstanding the way InstaForex present their data.
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Member Since Aug 20, 2010
55 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 14:24
it should be a margin call, theres no way he can save the investors accounts.
Member Since Aug 20, 2010
55 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 14:29
this is what happen when he trade without stoploss....
Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1409 posts
Aug 24, 2010 at 14:32
I actually thought he did trade with a stop loss. I saw his trade history on Instaforex before he hid his trades and there were definitely stop losses on the trades I looked at.
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
