Are there secret forex strategies in the forex market?

Yes, of course
I have the holy grail

dramrtalaak posted:
Yes, of course
I have the holy grail

You do not have the Holy Grail of trading.

If you did, you certainly wouldn't be telling anyone about it,because you would be infinitely wealthy.

PROVE ME WRONG.

the holy grail is not for the retail traders .
the market makers have that .
because they have more info .
en have algo rytmes who are calculate
the difference between buyers en sellers .

parish posted:
the holy grail is not for the retail traders .
the market makers have that .
because they have more info .
en have algo rytmes who are calculate
the difference between buyers en sellers .

The Holy Grail is not a simple algorithm which calculates the differences between buyers and sellers.
That's absurd. A Holy Grail system would be able to tell someone the exact moves and prices at all times so that you never have a losing trade.

Professional4X posted:

parish posted:
the holy grail is not for the retail traders .
the market makers have that .
because they have more info .
en have algo rytmes who are calculate
the difference between buyers en sellers .

The Holy Grail is not a simple algorithm which calculates the differences between buyers and sellers.
That's absurd. A Holy Grail system would be able to tell someone the exact moves and prices at all times so that you never have a losing trade.

that is why the market makers winning .
they change the direction of the market with their
algo rythmes l

parish posted:

Professional4X posted:

parish posted:
the holy grail is not for the retail traders .
the market makers have that .
because they have more info .
en have algo rytmes who are calculate
the difference between buyers en sellers .

The Holy Grail is not a simple algorithm which calculates the differences between buyers and sellers.
That's absurd. A Holy Grail system would be able to tell someone the exact moves and prices at all times so that you never have a losing trade.

that is why the market makers winning .
they change the direction of the market with their
algo rythmes l

No. And that's not how the markets work.
At this point in time there is no Holy Grail to trading that will allow you to always win regardless of the markets and regardless of the instrument being traded.

Professional4X posted:

parish posted:

Professional4X posted:

parish posted:
the holy grail is not for the retail traders .
the market makers have that .
because they have more info .
en have algo rytmes who are calculate
the difference between buyers en sellers .

The Holy Grail is not a simple algorithm which calculates the differences between buyers and sellers.
That's absurd. A Holy Grail system would be able to tell someone the exact moves and prices at all times so that you never have a losing trade.

that is why the market makers winning .
they change the direction of the market with their
algo rythmes l

No. And that's not how the markets work.
At this point in time there is no Holy Grail to trading that will allow you to always win regardless of the markets and regardless of the instrument being traded.
keep being naive
that s what the market makers whant you to be.
i see it different .

Hi parish; what does it mean, for money not to be right? Please explain…

that means that i trade to make money en not knowing everything like some guru s tried say
on the different websides .

Professional4X posted:

parish posted:

Professional4X posted:

parish posted:
the holy grail is not for the retail traders .
the market makers have that .
because they have more info .
en have algo rytmes who are calculate
the difference between buyers en sellers .

The Holy Grail is not a simple algorithm which calculates the differences between buyers and sellers.
That's absurd. A Holy Grail system would be able to tell someone the exact moves and prices at all times so that you never have a losing trade.

that is why the market makers winning .

they change the direction of the market with their
algo rythmes l

No. And that's not how the markets work.
At this point in time there is no Holy Grail to trading that will allow you to always win regardless of the markets and regardless of the instrument being traded.


the most of the peoples think when they buy a order of 10 lots that markets going to move up but that is not the case .
the market only moves with injections of big orders en most of the time those injection s come in masses of 3 big sizes Of 50 TO 150 millions of dollars THe first to going consolidate en second to change directions en tirth do confirme the direction en this al against the biggest group of retail traders group buyer or sellers
so not posibel for retail traders
that is why its called the smart money who control the markets.
they use this technique when there is low volume on a pair
so its much easier to controle the market
en that is where the algo s come to action

So what can a retail trader so with out all this information. Is that why retail trader always fail?

BringmeFish posted:
So what can a retail trader so with out all this information. Is that why retail trader always fail?

it means that it is difficult to stay allive in forex
before you had a clear trend now the trends are confused ;
en every minute or hour theire is a news that shock the forex market
.
so easy its not

the problem of market is that hard to predict and separate Trend with Flat

Professional4X posted:

parish posted:

Professional4X posted:

parish posted:
the holy grail is not for the retail traders .
the market makers have that .
because they have more info .
en have algo rytmes who are calculate
the difference between buyers en sellers .

The Holy Grail is not a simple algorithm which calculates the differences between buyers and sellers.
That's absurd. A Holy Grail system would be able to tell someone the exact moves and prices at all times so that you never have a losing trade.

that is why the market makers winning .
they change the direction of the market with their
algo rythmes l

No. And that's not how the markets work.
At this point in time there is no Holy Grail to trading that will allow you to always win regardless of the markets and regardless of the instrument being traded.



Good day trader

To me it sounds like you are a very wise trader. Yet I've got a question for you.
You explained that the market gives you three options.
1) market trending up. Option to buy
2) market not trending. No action
3) market trending down. Option to sell

In further examination this looks real. It gives you an success rate of only 33.33%
Because if you for example buy in the market, but the direction changes or stay. You will
not gain profitable.

Now my question is as follows. ( I'm a relative rookie trader)
Is there no way to calculate or eliminate risks to up the probability of your success
rate. Say to above 50% because then you know or should feel better about the trade.

sublimemarkets posted:
Hello,

There is no holy grail in forex trading. The reason that people struggle to find a solid investment strategy is because of the huge volume of free stuff out there that only creates noise and only makes it harder for someone to critically judge what works and what doesn't.

Instead of looking for 'secret' strategies, try to find out how the market really works and how you can make it work in your favor. There's much more in trading than ready made EA's doing all of the work (and losing most of your money) or chart patterns that 'indicate' where the market is going (and most of the times the 'indication' is false).

So long story short, no, there are no 'secret' strategies out there. Only people that have done their research and know how to manage money and risk.

amen to that sir. only way is to actually put in the work.

Engelbrechtas posted:
To me it sounds like you are a very wise trader. Yet I've got a question for you.
You explained that the market gives you three options.
1) market trending up. Option to buy
2) market not trending. No action
3) market trending down. Option to sell

In further examination this looks real. It gives you an success rate of only 33.33%
Because if you for example buy in the market, but the direction changes or stay. You will
not gain profitable.

Now my question is as follows. ( I'm a relative rookie trader)
Is there no way to calculate or eliminate risks to up the probability of your success
rate. Say to above 50% because then you know or should feel better about the trade.

To clarify what I was saying.

1) trending up example:
If EUR_USD is bullish in the D1 (daily) trend, and the M15 trend appears bullish, then I would enter a long trade.
BUY EUR_USD

2) not trending example:
if EUR_USD is bullish in the D1 (daily) trend, but M1, M5, M15 all appear bearish, then I would not trade.
DO NOTHING

3) trending down example:
If EUR_USD is bearish in the D1 (daily) trend, and the M15 trend appears bearish, then I would enter a short trade.
SELL EUR_USD

The odds of a random selection of the correct trend is 50% long, 50% short.
Even if you open the ticket when the market is ranging or not moving, the odds are still 50:50 of the correct direction because eventually the market is going to move one way or the other.

To increase probability, look for high probability candle patterns, look at the PSAR, MTF Cycles, MTF trend analysis, and multiple currency pair analysis. Trade small, and step additional trades into the profitable basket.

There is no way to remove 100% of risk when trading, but those risks can be properly managed.
Pay close attention to trending markets, fundamentals, news events, technical analysis, etc etc etc. It's all important.

apple1st posted:
the problem of market is that hard to predict and separate Trend with Flat

Do you use support resistant tool on your chart? I am sure. S/R levels will help you to understand the market trend; use the D1 time frame.

El_diablo posted:

sublimemarkets posted:
Hello,

There is no holy grail in forex trading. The reason that people struggle to find a solid investment strategy is because of the huge volume of free stuff out there that only creates noise and only makes it harder for someone to critically judge what works and what doesn't.

Instead of looking for 'secret' strategies, try to find out how the market really works and how you can make it work in your favor. There's much more in trading than ready made EA's doing all of the work (and losing most of your money) or chart patterns that 'indicate' where the market is going (and most of the times the 'indication' is false).

So long story short, no, there are no 'secret' strategies out there. Only people that have done their research and know how to manage money and risk.

amen to that sir. only way is to actually put in the work.

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