To Demo or not to Demo

street_pips posted:
Most traders on forums advise new traders to start on a demo account.

I don't think this is good advice. Where is the respect for money on a demo?

Let's see why.

The most important aspect of trading is knowledge. Has anyone seen that movie "the chronicles of narnia the lion the witch and the wardrobe"? If you haven't go see it, there is a part where the boy finds treasure and can't contain himself and becomes a slave to money (gold).
If you trade on a demo and have not learned the essence of trading, you will become a slave to a demo. Then your nervous system gets linked to an emotional connection to a demo. If you lose a trade you go back to a demo, if you win, you go to a live. But live only there is no where to go except live and face reality. It's made clear of bad behavior by Pavolv's experiment. Demo creates negative feed back loops. Then how would you learn? Get a real mentor, you don't even know how good you might be, we could be talking about a potential multi-million dollar trader, I mean you, but you gotta get polished. This advice is only for people that see themselves as making it big in trading.

I believe in "FEAR" , "PLEASURE", and "REVENGE".
You do not feel these emotions on a demo, If the market has an interest rate decision you will be nervous in real life, if the market stole your Stop/Loss get revenge and take that money back, revenge trades are ok, and fine and moral.
When you make 3pips it's pleasure, when you make 30pips it's pleasure, when you make 300pips in a day, it's pleasure.
My first trade in the New York Stock Exchange was a magical moment, it was a silver mining stock that I bought for something like $5.35 a share then it went up to $25 per share in less than a month.

Do you think I would tell you this if it was on a demo?
Demo is for some people but fast acting, insightful, mathematical people it may not be.
This is a list of what you need in order to be successful. It's in order of importance.
1) Lump sum or income source
2) Personal Income behavior under control.
3) Personal 1-on-1 Access to a trading mentor that understands your style and behavior with money.
4) Action.

You notice how no one talks like this but 90% of traders fail? This is why, no one talks about the most important stuff, which is a mentor and personal income behavior.
Did you notice I didn't say "personal finances"? Finances are loans income is fiat.
Sometimes I don't talk because I know a lot of people don't understand then get upset, that's why I don't post here much only years at a time, but maybe I'll change.
Get a mentor, if you can't find one learn about sales and persuasion, then persuade them, what is it worth?

LyudmilLukanov posted:
The demo is good learning. But traders also need real accounts to learn.

marshallbuchanan posted:
Demo trading is recommended until you are well-versed with a platform. But when you get a fair idea, move to micro accounts. They are better to check your capability and trading skills while risking small amounts.

Imamul posted:
the journey of demo account is very painful because there is no real money and no one can keep this kind of patience for a long time. thats why it is very difficult.