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hedge forex positions with no loss

bestdarngood
Nov 17 2016 at 12:24
174 комментариев
My Backtests covered all of 2015 where we saw the January events caused by the Swiss. Since I was using real Bid and Ask data, my tests were even more valid than using Strategy Tester with a set Spread.

After years of trading, limiting losses is my number one concern, making small consistent profits is better than making big profits and big losses.
See my profile or message me for my latest EA
Dove_Services
Nov 17 2016 at 12:50
33 комментариев
bestdarngood posted:
My Backtests covered all of 2015 where we saw the January events caused by the Swiss. Since I was using real Bid and Ask data, my tests were even more valid than using Strategy Tester with a set Spread.

After years of trading, limiting losses is my number one concern, making small consistent profits is better than making big profits and big losses.

All the best and good trading.
bestdarngood
Nov 17 2016 at 13:07
174 комментариев
Dove_Services posted:
bestdarngood posted:
My Backtests covered all of 2015 where we saw the January events caused by the Swiss. Since I was using real Bid and Ask data, my tests were even more valid than using Strategy Tester with a set Spread.

After years of trading, limiting losses is my number one concern, making small consistent profits is better than making big profits and big losses.

All the best and good trading.

Thank you, the same to you.
See my profile or message me for my latest EA
AniLorak
Apr 24 2017 at 14:45
920 комментариев
To be honest, hedging is not any reliable solution for the retail Forex trader, that’s way, I never tried this complicated one! For me, swing trading is the perfect trading style; on the other hand I am also interested on scalping trading! Hedging is not for general trader, so don’t block your trading capital if you are not expert on it!
MeuLugar
Jun 02 2017 at 09:32
45 комментариев
exnessdubai posted:
forex is risk,but you can make 200% with my simple stratgy.why are you hedging with lot of position?? and complicated trade?

Hello exnessdubai! May I know which trading strategy do you mean actually? I see, you mentioned here a handsome monthly percentage! Please describe details about this simple trading strategy!
Baldo (BaldoN)
Jun 02 2017 at 14:53
522 комментариев
MeuLugar posted:
exnessdubai posted:
forex is risk,but you can make 200% with my simple stratgy.why are you hedging with lot of position?? and complicated trade?

Hello exnessdubai! May I know which trading strategy do you mean actually? I see, you mentioned here a handsome monthly percentage! Please describe details about this simple trading strategy!

Hello, with 200% per day / week / month - wiping the account is very simple. It is possible to reach it once with luck but that is all. There is no serious or professional trader to make it constantly.
BarryMoore
Jun 04 2017 at 06:19
10 комментариев
hedging for profit is the traders equivalent of the perpetual motion machine . It sounds wonderful, easy and there are some good explanations of how it works but in the end it is impossible
AmDiab
Dec 22 2017 at 12:03
718 комментариев
togr posted:
It is possible but it cant be profitable
e.g. you buy EURUSD
so you would need to sell e.g. EURJPY
and buy USDJPY

I think, hedging is the most complicated trading style! When I was a new trader then I used it in my demo, but the worst experience and I never tried it in my real trading.
NyNFinancial
May 06 2018 at 06:57
20 комментариев
A system that is based on hedge is quite difficult to manage, but it is also quite profitable once it is achieved. The hedge can not only be used to cover losses. If you have a good algorithm to increase the lot size, with the objective that, in the end, there is a net quantity of lots always following the trend, you can establish a DD zone that the total balance of the account can support. As long as the price exceeds that area, and the net quantity of lots follows the trend, the breakeven point can be reached soon and, from there, we already enter the profit area.
Of course, it is not a kind of strategy for everyone, nor is it the most appreciated or known, precisely because not everyone comes to dominate it, but the person who does it does not have to worry about the price direction, since it always covers any possible loss, and also earns money. You just have to worry about the calculation of the increment of the lots.
In fact, someone who has really mastered a type of trading system that is hedge-based, does not need any technical indicator, just needs an FX pair whose price moves a lot 😁
Ganando dinero en el mercado FX. Earning money in the FX market.
Adribaasmet
May 07 2018 at 06:51
994 комментариев
NyNFinancial posted:
A system that is based on hedge is quite difficult to manage, but it is also quite profitable once it is achieved. The hedge can not only be used to cover losses. If you have a good algorithm to increase the lot size, with the objective that, in the end, there is a net quantity of lots always following the trend, you can establish a DD zone that the total balance of the account can support. As long as the price exceeds that area, and the net quantity of lots follows the trend, the breakeven point can be reached soon and, from there, we already enter the profit area.
Of course, it is not a kind of strategy for everyone, nor is it the most appreciated or known, precisely because not everyone comes to dominate it, but the person who does it does not have to worry about the price direction, since it always covers any possible loss, and also earns money. You just have to worry about the calculation of the increment of the lots.
In fact, someone who has really mastered a type of trading system that is hedge-based, does not need any technical indicator, just needs an FX pair whose price moves a lot 😁

There have so many standard ways to read the market technically & fundamentally, so why need this complicated trading system (hedging)?
vontogr (togr)
May 07 2018 at 09:52
4862 комментариев
Hedging is not actually helpfull. Imagine you have loosing positions. You expect the market will go further against you so you open hedge position. If market goes in opposite direction you will end up with 2 loosing positions and you pay negative swap.
FindingNedo
May 08 2018 at 11:19
10 комментариев
same here. hedging is a waste of time
NyNFinancial
May 17 2018 at 06:07
20 комментариев
Adribaasmet posted:
NyNFinancial posted:
A system that is based on hedge is quite difficult to manage, but it is also quite profitable once it is achieved. The hedge can not only be used to cover losses. If you have a good algorithm to increase the lot size, with the objective that, in the end, there is a net quantity of lots always following the trend, you can establish a DD zone that the total balance of the account can support. As long as the price exceeds that area, and the net quantity of lots follows the trend, the breakeven point can be reached soon and, from there, we already enter the profit area.
Of course, it is not a kind of strategy for everyone, nor is it the most appreciated or known, precisely because not everyone comes to dominate it, but the person who does it does not have to worry about the price direction, since it always covers any possible loss, and also earns money. You just have to worry about the calculation of the increment of the lots.
In fact, someone who has really mastered a type of trading system that is hedge-based, does not need any technical indicator, just needs an FX pair whose price moves a lot 😁

There have so many standard ways to read the market technically & fundamentally, so why need this complicated trading system (hedging)?

Well, of course there are several ways to analyze the market, and to get money out of it. But not everyone understands a type of strategy that one can understand. There are people who specialize in technical analysis, others in fundamental analysis, and others specialize in strategies that do not require any analysis, only movements in the price. I'm talking about some algorithmic trading strategies. I think that, finally, if a strategy based on hedging is profitable, and if the profits correspond to the risk assumed, that is what matters ... making money. By managing risk well, this can be achieved with a strategy based on hedging.
Ganando dinero en el mercado FX. Earning money in the FX market.
vontogr (togr)
May 17 2018 at 12:29
4862 комментариев
NyNFinancial posted:
Adribaasmet posted:
NyNFinancial posted:
A system that is based on hedge is quite difficult to manage, but it is also quite profitable once it is achieved. The hedge can not only be used to cover losses. If you have a good algorithm to increase the lot size, with the objective that, in the end, there is a net quantity of lots always following the trend, you can establish a DD zone that the total balance of the account can support. As long as the price exceeds that area, and the net quantity of lots follows the trend, the breakeven point can be reached soon and, from there, we already enter the profit area.
Of course, it is not a kind of strategy for everyone, nor is it the most appreciated or known, precisely because not everyone comes to dominate it, but the person who does it does not have to worry about the price direction, since it always covers any possible loss, and also earns money. You just have to worry about the calculation of the increment of the lots.
In fact, someone who has really mastered a type of trading system that is hedge-based, does not need any technical indicator, just needs an FX pair whose price moves a lot 😁

There have so many standard ways to read the market technically & fundamentally, so why need this complicated trading system (hedging)?

Well, of course there are several ways to analyze the market, and to get money out of it. But not everyone understands a type of strategy that one can understand. There are people who specialize in technical analysis, others in fundamental analysis, and others specialize in strategies that do not require any analysis, only movements in the price. I'm talking about some algorithmic trading strategies. I think that, finally, if a strategy based on hedging is profitable, and if the profits correspond to the risk assumed, that is what matters ... making money. By managing risk well, this can be achieved with a strategy based on hedging.

Without any offense do you have at least some idea what are you talking about? How is EA trading related to hedge?
NyNFinancial
May 21 2018 at 07:53
20 комментариев
togr posted:
NyNFinancial posted:
Adribaasmet posted:
NyNFinancial posted:
A system that is based on hedge is quite difficult to manage, but it is also quite profitable once it is achieved. The hedge can not only be used to cover losses. If you have a good algorithm to increase the lot size, with the objective that, in the end, there is a net quantity of lots always following the trend, you can establish a DD zone that the total balance of the account can support. As long as the price exceeds that area, and the net quantity of lots follows the trend, the breakeven point can be reached soon and, from there, we already enter the profit area.
Of course, it is not a kind of strategy for everyone, nor is it the most appreciated or known, precisely because not everyone comes to dominate it, but the person who does it does not have to worry about the price direction, since it always covers any possible loss, and also earns money. You just have to worry about the calculation of the increment of the lots.
In fact, someone who has really mastered a type of trading system that is hedge-based, does not need any technical indicator, just needs an FX pair whose price moves a lot 😁

There have so many standard ways to read the market technically & fundamentally, so why need this complicated trading system (hedging)?

Well, of course there are several ways to analyze the market, and to get money out of it. But not everyone understands a type of strategy that one can understand. There are people who specialize in technical analysis, others in fundamental analysis, and others specialize in strategies that do not require any analysis, only movements in the price. I'm talking about some algorithmic trading strategies. I think that, finally, if a strategy based on hedging is profitable, and if the profits correspond to the risk assumed, that is what matters ... making money. By managing risk well, this can be achieved with a strategy based on hedging.

Without any offense do you have at least some idea what are you talking about? How is EA trading related to hedge?

Well, I do have an idea. I answered your post previously, and attach some images so that you could evaluate the performance of an algorithmic trading system based on hedging, but it seems that it was deleted. I leave a link to the YouTube channel we have with my partners. There we have uploaded hours and hours of recording of live trades in 2017 using this strategy with EA's, and I must say that we continue making money in 2018 in a consistent manner, covering each trade with a negative result with trade with a positive result that it is bigger.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZX8ASnR4fQ7oZl64O6y2Dg?view_as=subscriber
Ganando dinero en el mercado FX. Earning money in the FX market.
vontogr (togr)
May 21 2018 at 09:49
4862 комментариев
NyNFinancial posted:
togr posted:
NyNFinancial posted:
Adribaasmet posted:
NyNFinancial posted:
A system that is based on hedge is quite difficult to manage, but it is also quite profitable once it is achieved. The hedge can not only be used to cover losses. If you have a good algorithm to increase the lot size, with the objective that, in the end, there is a net quantity of lots always following the trend, you can establish a DD zone that the total balance of the account can support. As long as the price exceeds that area, and the net quantity of lots follows the trend, the breakeven point can be reached soon and, from there, we already enter the profit area.
Of course, it is not a kind of strategy for everyone, nor is it the most appreciated or known, precisely because not everyone comes to dominate it, but the person who does it does not have to worry about the price direction, since it always covers any possible loss, and also earns money. You just have to worry about the calculation of the increment of the lots.
In fact, someone who has really mastered a type of trading system that is hedge-based, does not need any technical indicator, just needs an FX pair whose price moves a lot 😁

There have so many standard ways to read the market technically & fundamentally, so why need this complicated trading system (hedging)?

Well, of course there are several ways to analyze the market, and to get money out of it. But not everyone understands a type of strategy that one can understand. There are people who specialize in technical analysis, others in fundamental analysis, and others specialize in strategies that do not require any analysis, only movements in the price. I'm talking about some algorithmic trading strategies. I think that, finally, if a strategy based on hedging is profitable, and if the profits correspond to the risk assumed, that is what matters ... making money. By managing risk well, this can be achieved with a strategy based on hedging.

Without any offense do you have at least some idea what are you talking about? How is EA trading related to hedge?

Well, I do have an idea. I answered your post previously, and attach some images so that you could evaluate the performance of an algorithmic trading system based on hedging, but it seems that it was deleted. I leave a link to the YouTube channel we have with my partners. There we have uploaded hours and hours of recording of live trades in 2017 using this strategy with EA's, and I must say that we continue making money in 2018 in a consistent manner, covering each trade with a negative result with trade with a positive result that it is bigger.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZX8ASnR4fQ7oZl64O6y2Dg?view_as=subscriber

OMG. I do not care about your promo.
This is MyFxBook - website that allows easy processing and evaluation of your trading. All anybody need to see is the link to your MFB account with great results.
kennyhubbard (compuforexpamm)
May 21 2018 at 12:12
265 комментариев
NyNFinancial,

I used to be a adamant hedge trade believer.......until someone showed me the light.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion and if it works for you, that is great but your public system tells a different story, and you are going to get flak for that.

No matter what your opinion, there are 2 facts that are indisputable :-

1. Your series of trades can at any point in time be resolved into a single one way trade;
2. Hedge grid type trading will cost you a lot in terms of interest - your own system is a case in point.

Consider re-writing your EA to close trades and open in the opposite direction......it is exactly the same as a hedge grid, without the swap penalties. Or move to a swap free broker.

Baldo (BaldoN)
May 22 2018 at 14:32
522 комментариев
My opinion is supporting the idea that hedging from the point of the retail trader does not make any sense. Perhaps the misleading of the hedging come out from the how MT4 has been build, but on the real market exist just net based position/exposure.
NyNFinancial
May 25 2018 at 09:20
20 комментариев
compuforexpamm posted:
NyNFinancial,

I used to be a adamant hedge trade believer.......until someone showed me the light.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion and if it works for you, that is great but your public system tells a different story, and you are going to get flak for that.

No matter what your opinion, there are 2 facts that are indisputable :-

1. Your series of trades can at any point in time be resolved into a single one way trade;
2. Hedge grid type trading will cost you a lot in terms of interest - your own system is a case in point.

Consider re-writing your EA to close trades and open in the opposite direction......it is exactly the same as a hedge grid, without the swap penalties. Or move to a swap free broker.



Very well, thank you for your contribution, I will take it into account. As for my public system, it has a slight drop because the broker arbitrarily closed a sequence of trades, before it reached the profit target, but those things serve to know each broker. I have an account that I manage through my trusted broker, but I do not show it, since the goal is to obtain statistics to share with those who contribute with the development of my private PAMM account project. So I'll keep making money with my fully automated system, since it works and it does it very well, and that's what matters to me in the end...to make money...
Ganando dinero en el mercado FX. Earning money in the FX market.
NyNFinancial
May 25 2018 at 09:20
20 комментариев
togr posted:
NyNFinancial posted:
togr posted:
NyNFinancial posted:
Adribaasmet posted:
NyNFinancial posted:
A system that is based on hedge is quite difficult to manage, but it is also quite profitable once it is achieved. The hedge can not only be used to cover losses. If you have a good algorithm to increase the lot size, with the objective that, in the end, there is a net quantity of lots always following the trend, you can establish a DD zone that the total balance of the account can support. As long as the price exceeds that area, and the net quantity of lots follows the trend, the breakeven point can be reached soon and, from there, we already enter the profit area.
Of course, it is not a kind of strategy for everyone, nor is it the most appreciated or known, precisely because not everyone comes to dominate it, but the person who does it does not have to worry about the price direction, since it always covers any possible loss, and also earns money. You just have to worry about the calculation of the increment of the lots.
In fact, someone who has really mastered a type of trading system that is hedge-based, does not need any technical indicator, just needs an FX pair whose price moves a lot 😁

There have so many standard ways to read the market technically & fundamentally, so why need this complicated trading system (hedging)?

Well, of course there are several ways to analyze the market, and to get money out of it. But not everyone understands a type of strategy that one can understand. There are people who specialize in technical analysis, others in fundamental analysis, and others specialize in strategies that do not require any analysis, only movements in the price. I'm talking about some algorithmic trading strategies. I think that, finally, if a strategy based on hedging is profitable, and if the profits correspond to the risk assumed, that is what matters ... making money. By managing risk well, this can be achieved with a strategy based on hedging.

Without any offense do you have at least some idea what are you talking about? How is EA trading related to hedge?

Well, I do have an idea. I answered your post previously, and attach some images so that you could evaluate the performance of an algorithmic trading system based on hedging, but it seems that it was deleted. I leave a link to the YouTube channel we have with my partners. There we have uploaded hours and hours of recording of live trades in 2017 using this strategy with EA's, and I must say that we continue making money in 2018 in a consistent manner, covering each trade with a negative result with trade with a positive result that it is bigger.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZX8ASnR4fQ7oZl64O6y2Dg?view_as=subscriber

OMG. I do not care about your promo.
This is MyFxBook - website that allows easy processing and evaluation of your trading. All anybody need to see is the link to your MFB account with great results.

I think nobody asked for money. It's not a promo, it's just a video, my friend. If you do not like it, do not look at it and that's it.
Ganando dinero en el mercado FX. Earning money in the FX market.
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