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tradfred

Пользователь с Jul 13, 2016  36 сообщений tradfred Dec 23 2016 at 13:59
Oh!!! important, is in Spanish. But can see the option translate page and will take data important in there. wink

leopoldo

Пользователь с Dec 17, 2015  41 сообщений Mario (leopoldo) Dec 25 2016 at 07:49
CrazyTrader posted:
My Money Management System eliminates risk at some point and allows to double lotzise on each trade with ZERO RISK.
How is this possible? Anyone can find the solution?


The question is not how is this possible but how do you make profits with zero risk? smiley To make a profit you always risk, and not only in forex. You also cannot simply eliminate cost, costs always exists, even in alternative form. So whatever you put at stake to make profit - this is what you risk, unless if you just play with demo accounts wink

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tormess

Пользователь с Jun 15, 2015  52 сообщений Torsten (tormess) Dec 25 2016 at 08:35
trill12 posted:
@hodias The Martingale is a very popular system for Forex, and is used by many expert advisors. I have read that the central principle of the system is to double the bet every time it is lost, as if it were to win.


Yes, this has been mentioned several times in the discussion from what I read. So this seems to be the foundation principle of martingale.

tormess

Пользователь с Jun 15, 2015  52 сообщений Torsten (tormess) Dec 25 2016 at 08:35
tradfred posted:
Hey guys, the second page of this article speaks a bit more of Martingale and system types. Perhaps you are interested in. https://www.x-trader.net/articulos/trading-general/la-falacia-de-la-martingala/P%C3%A1gina-2.html


But this article is in Spanish only I see...

jackell78

Пользователь с Nov 03, 2015  45 сообщений Jack (jackell78) Dec 25 2016 at 08:38
@tradfred Thanks for the article, best would be to have it also in English but anyways, good you shared it smiley

CrazyTrader

Пользователь с Nov 21, 2011  1707 сообщений CrazyTraderfx (CrazyTrader) Dec 25 2016 at 22:51
leopoldo posted:
CrazyTrader posted:
My Money Management System eliminates risk at some point and allows to double lotzise on each trade with ZERO RISK.
How is this possible? Anyone can find the solution?


The question is not how is this possible but how do you make profits with zero risk? smiley To make a profit you always risk, and not only in forex. You also cannot simply eliminate cost, costs always exists, even in alternative form. So whatever you put at stake to make profit - this is what you risk, unless if you just play with demo accounts wink


Demo or live... this isn't the question. How to use variant of martingale in order to eliminate risk (zero risk - covering all the costs and potential loss) while profit may be * 2 or 4 or 6.
It is possible... pure maths

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CrazyTrader

Пользователь с Nov 21, 2011  1707 сообщений CrazyTraderfx (CrazyTrader) Dec 26 2016 at 12:47
tradfred posted:
I so far have not succeeded, you have been able to do it?


Here I'm going to give you an hint by providing the formula, so you can discover by yourself the martingale method used.

Pips difference / ( (Lotsize Position 2 / Lotsize Position 1) - 1 )
This formula provides (pips) where you have to set stopLoss from last opened trade to get zero risk. (minus a couple of pips to cover spread or commissions)

Does it help?

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rob559

Пользователь с Feb 11, 2011  1916 сообщений rob559 Dec 27 2016 at 07:15
CrazyTrader posted:
I deeply beleive the guy who brought the idea of martingale in forex was a guy who was working in market maker broker.
That's the smartest strategy they could find to swallow your account in 1 single day... 100% sure, they will wipe out you ^^


comes from casino betting

one day at a time
CrazyTrader

Пользователь с Nov 21, 2011  1707 сообщений CrazyTraderfx (CrazyTrader) Dec 27 2016 at 08:23
rob559 posted:
CrazyTrader posted:
I deeply beleive the guy who brought the idea of martingale in forex was a guy who was working in market maker broker.
That's the smartest strategy they could find to swallow your account in 1 single day... 100% sure, they will wipe out you ^^


comes from casino betting


I know... that's why the guy brought the idea... I haven't said the guy who invented martingale

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NEEnah

Пользователь с Mar 25, 2015  71 сообщений Nina (NEEnah) Dec 27 2016 at 12:08
togr posted:
NEEnah posted:
I would like just to add one point I read on Wikipedia - 'The fundamental reason why all martingale-type betting systems fail is that no amount of information about the results of past bets can be used to predict the results of a future bet with accuracy better than chance.'
It is pure gambling, nothing to deal with trends or analysis of the market in my opinion. I think vontogr@ is right that it is about following a losing trade.


@NEEnah
exactly,

I had a martingale strategy (smart one :))
It was working for years and DD was below 30%. Suddenly it was wiped during a day.
I am trying to say you are right, no past results could guarantee future results. But thats the case of any other system as well. :)


I am even surprised to see it worked well for years as you said :) It should have been definitely a smart one.

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