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Dec 22, 2011 at 13:25
I recommend an experienced trader, you can pay $ 1 and check yourself! http://instaforex.com/pl/pamm_monitoring.php?trader=5078663.
Dec 22, 2011 at 15:18
Yes, me too, as I have been trading over 7 years, adn just about seen it all...
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/nasco/live-account/186575
Be very careful who you follow these days!
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/nasco/live-account/186575
Be very careful who you follow these days!
Relax, and Get Paid!
Dec 22, 2011 at 21:22
会员从Feb 03, 2011开始
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Dec 23, 2011 at 02:27
NextLevelForex posted:
indiaforextrade posted:
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For more details & proof of our live & demo accounts Visit: www.autotradefx.in
I checked your system a couple of hours ago, and the equity was around 53%.
In other words, there was a drawdown of 47%.
No matter how great the system looks from other perspectives, such a large (and on-going, if the balance vs equity chart displayed by myfxbook is correct) drawdown is way too much for my taste.
Hi Remus
Actually what you see here:
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/indiaforextrade/live-trading-ac-exness/193562
& here:
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/indiaforextrade/autotradefx-demo/183072
Is actually the stress test of our EA.
Our PAMM account we use a much Lower risk /drawdown.
see here:
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/indiaforextrade/pamm-trading-ac-instaforex/208154
see this demo:
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/indiaforextrade/dreams-ea-4-pamm/207362
rgds
Jason
In order to make a profit you have to cut short your losing trades and let the winners ride
会员从Apr 25, 2011开始
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Dec 23, 2011 at 05:56
indiaforextrade posted:
Hi Remus
Actually what you see here:
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/indiaforextrade/live-trading-ac-exness/193562
Is actually the stress test of our EA.
Our PAMM account we use a much Lower risk /drawdown.
see here:
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/indiaforextrade/pamm-trading-ac-instaforex/208154
rgds
Jason
Jason,
You posted a link to that first account on my thread. Now you say it's a stress test? Why did you not post the best link first?
Also, the PAMM account you listed had a 69% drawdown on Dec 20, so the "much lower risk/drawdown" is actually higher...
Sorry, you may have a good trading method behind it, but the implementation (money management) is very poor. Hope your investors will realize they are gambling with your account and invest appropriately.
He who thinks he can, and he who thinks he cannot, are both right. ~ Henry Ford
会员从Apr 25, 2011开始
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Dec 23, 2011 at 06:04
Rafal posted:
I recommend an experienced trader, you can pay $ 1 and check yourself! http://instaforex.com/pl/pamm_monitoring.php?trader=5078663.
Rafal,
You registered 17 hours ago, just to recommend "an experienced trader"? You would have had more credibility saying "hi guys, this is my account, it's only 4 days old, so I know the performance means nothing at this point, but I'm in this for the long term, so please add it to your watchlist".
I'm sure you (or whoever the "experienced trader" is) will get clients anyway, the same as Vegas continued to have clients even though US was in a recession. But you will likely get more by linking your account to myfxbook (and other similar services), which allows a more detailed investigation of performance.
He who thinks he can, and he who thinks he cannot, are both right. ~ Henry Ford
会员从Feb 03, 2011开始
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Dec 23, 2011 at 06:21
(已编辑 Dec 23, 2011 at 06:30)
NextLevelForex posted:
indiaforextrade posted:
You posted a link to that first account on my thread. Now you say it's a stress test? Why did you not post the best link first?
Also, the PAMM account you listed had a 69% drawdown on Dec 20, so the "much lower risk/drawdown" is actually higher...
Sorry, you may have a good trading method behind it, but the implementation (money management) is very poor. Hope your investors will realize they are gambling with your account and invest appropriately.
You have a keen eye, i should admit that. yes when i gave you the earlier link, this PAMM account was not started yet, so i gave it to you the next time.
Yeah the account started at $10 and then my funds got stuck in the process of transfer, but the trading had already started, knowing that my funds are in the pipeline. by the time my funds got credited the account was aldready double. Its not that like iv'e to justify everything to you, i know that when you see the records you'll know.
But please reserve statements like "(money management) is very poor (ok this i can understand based on statements)" but stuff like" . Hope your investors will realize they are gambling with your account and invest appropriately."
Wait and give it time, and let the investors look at track record and decide for themselves.
Not that i need your money Mr Remus , Just that topic was interesting so i posted. I dont have to prove anything to you. If you serious enough track this account and keep your judgement open for a while.
rgds
Jason
In order to make a profit you have to cut short your losing trades and let the winners ride
会员从Apr 25, 2011开始
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Dec 23, 2011 at 06:53
indiaforextrade posted:
But please reserve statements like "(money management) is very poor (ok this i can understand based on statements)" but stuff like" . Hope your investors will realize they are gambling with your account and invest appropriately."
Wait and give it time, and let the investors look at track record and decide for themselves.
What you say makes sense! By having you reply here you show you care about your image, and want to be treated fairly. That is good, and my reply was meant to show you your weak points (69% drawdown is a catastrophe, I hope you agree with that; whoever does not, is a pure gambler in my opinion).
If you can, you should prepare your accounts to have zero such glitches in the future. You would have gained more by starting trading 1 week late and posting your account only after you have 30 days of history (just saying, 3-6 months would be more serious).
I wish you the best with this business!
He who thinks he can, and he who thinks he cannot, are both right. ~ Henry Ford
会员从Feb 03, 2011开始
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Dec 23, 2011 at 12:46
(已编辑 Dec 23, 2011 at 12:56)
NextLevelForex posted:
What you say makes sense! By having you reply here you show you care about your image, and want to be treated fairly. That is good, and my reply was meant to show you your weak points (69% drawdown is a catastrophe, I hope you agree with that; whoever does not, is a pure gambler in my opinion).
If you can, you should prepare your accounts to have zero such glitches in the future. You would have gained more by starting trading 1 week late and posting your account only after you have 30 days of history (just saying, 3-6 months would be more serious).
I wish you the best with this business!
Thanks. You seem like a logical man. Nice to meet guys like you.
(69% drawdown is a catastrophe, I hope you agree with that; whoever does not, is a pure gambler in my opinion).
If you can, you should prepare your accounts to have zero such glitches in the future. You would have gained more by starting trading 1 week late and posting your account only after you have 30 days of history (just saying, 3-6 months would be more serious).
What you say is all pretty true. Any sane trader would think the same
Eitherway im striving to be here for the long run, im not looking for quick results either. Even though i could use the funds, I frankly dont expect anyone to invest unless they think this account is worthwile, backed by data in due time.
This post was made here because this topic was relevant and also so that those who wants to monitor this account could do. Yeah it was a bit early but hay! Eitherway "Here I am"! An aspiring fund manager;)
In order to make a profit you have to cut short your losing trades and let the winners ride
会员从Nov 15, 2011开始
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Dec 23, 2011 at 14:40
NextLevelForex posted:
Thanks Jos for following up, and especially for opening your trading history!
Your results indeed look good, but there are a couple of corrections I need to make, for the benefit of everyone trying to asses your performance through my criteria:
4) you need to select only the last 100 trades, not all 171; I selected the 11/29 8:00 - 12/21 13:00 interval and got the answer: for the last 100 trades, the average pip/trade (the same as Pips Expectancy; at the time of my original post I did not know they are the same) is 320.2 / 100 = 3.2 pips (and yes, you need to include the losing trades)
5a) there was a typo in your reply; -21.31 is in fact -25.31; with that the Pips Expectancy comes out as 3.0, which is still good. By the way, shortly after starting this thread I suggested to Myfxbook team to implement displaying the Pips Expectancy, which they promptly did, so now you can find this value in the 3rd column of Advanced Statistics / Trades
5b) due to the same typo the ratio is lower: 3.0 / 25.31 = 0.12 (the absolute value is used for the average loss; I was not clear on that in my original post)
All in all, I must say I like your results. History is still too little, but time will naturally take care of that :). Keep up the great work, and we'll be in touch after mid January.
Hi Remus,
Thanks for fixing my stats, that definitely helps give a clearer picture. I hope they'll add all of these to myfxbook's own stats. I'd be interested in seeing things like the sortino rating as well, but the suggestion box is already pretty full.
And I completely agree with your comment on history, I wouldn't be too keen on investing in anything without a long track record. Unless perhaps when I could validate code and backtest it on very conservative data. However, LiteForex's community seems to have faith; almost 1400$ equity in the account as we speak after 1 month. I'll be taking good care of it :) But, we'll talk again in January/February!
Jos.
When you fall you learn, then you get up and you try again until you master it.
Dec 27, 2011 at 23:38
Trade Slowly and Safely
会员从Apr 25, 2011开始
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Jan 02, 2012 at 12:06
jtedder posted:
Please check this out.
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/jtedder/mt4-72711/212300
I just checked it and see nothing interesting about it.
First of all, it's a DEMO account, with very short track record (1.5 months, 25 trades). Then I see a 31% realized drawdown, on top of which you have a 20% floating DD (so the combined DD exceeded 50%). I also see a SL set to a large amount (330 pips). Is this LeoTraderPro? It does not matter anyway.
He who thinks he can, and he who thinks he cannot, are both right. ~ Henry Ford
会员从Nov 18, 2011开始
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Jan 03, 2012 at 07:18
会员从Apr 25, 2011开始
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Jan 05, 2012 at 22:36
Thanks Jacob, I added the account to my watchlist!
Do you use Martingale-like management? I see negative realized pips on Dec 29 and Jan 04, while the growth line went up.
Do you use Martingale-like management? I see negative realized pips on Dec 29 and Jan 04, while the growth line went up.
He who thinks he can, and he who thinks he cannot, are both right. ~ Henry Ford
Jan 06, 2012 at 02:15
(已编辑 Jan 06, 2012 at 02:17)
Move Account to http://instaforex.com/pamm_monitoring.php?x=CWXG&trader=1094416 <--- click this for invest
Link Tracking http://www.myfxbook.com/members/omerad/pamm-insta-scalping-ucad/165467
- ANTI minus floating for days! (It can disrupt your health and emotional!)
- DO NOT make trades for 24 hours! (Very tiring, constantly monitor the charts!)
- DO NOT over-trade! (Only the pursuit of commission / rebate alone!)
- DO NOT use the FULL margin to withstand the wrong position! (SL Danger! it is MC)
- DO NOT open a position opposite to the trend of continuously! (Martingale / Averaging)
- DO NOT use the robot as a test that has not been proven and tested on actual market!
- Only use the best robot has been used for years on account REAL!
- Trading just enough day, a floating average of 3 hours clear! May pull the profit (Rollover) every day!
- Always use StopLoss (SL) as a safety. It is important to limit the losses!
- Traders also invest, not just rely on funding from investors only.
- If the market are found to be beneficial, EA will be turned off. Primary security account is more than the pursuit of profit / commission.
- Has escaped from the backtest and Forwardtest with satisfactory results.
- Targeted PAMM is to invest long term, survive up to many years.
Link Tracking http://www.myfxbook.com/members/omerad/pamm-insta-scalping-ucad/165467
- ANTI minus floating for days! (It can disrupt your health and emotional!)
- DO NOT make trades for 24 hours! (Very tiring, constantly monitor the charts!)
- DO NOT over-trade! (Only the pursuit of commission / rebate alone!)
- DO NOT use the FULL margin to withstand the wrong position! (SL Danger! it is MC)
- DO NOT open a position opposite to the trend of continuously! (Martingale / Averaging)
- DO NOT use the robot as a test that has not been proven and tested on actual market!
- Only use the best robot has been used for years on account REAL!
- Trading just enough day, a floating average of 3 hours clear! May pull the profit (Rollover) every day!
- Always use StopLoss (SL) as a safety. It is important to limit the losses!
- Traders also invest, not just rely on funding from investors only.
- If the market are found to be beneficial, EA will be turned off. Primary security account is more than the pursuit of profit / commission.
- Has escaped from the backtest and Forwardtest with satisfactory results.
- Targeted PAMM is to invest long term, survive up to many years.
Jan 06, 2012 at 06:28
forex_trader_57926
会员从Dec 28, 2011开始
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Jan 08, 2012 at 09:55
(已编辑 Jan 08, 2012 at 10:05)
Hi,
A brief introduction about our system:
-Running a combination of profitable EAs
-Controlled risk
-No martingale, no grid
-Good return - so far >20% in less than 2 weeks
-Reputable broker - HotForex. Not a dodgy broker like Instaforex (labelled scam on Forex Peace Army)
-Real, verified accounts
-PAMM service available: minimum $500, 30% success fee
-Unfortunately we cannot disclose too much about our strategies/EAs but please don't hesitate to PM us if interested
-Please check our account page info tab on how to join
regards,
HotterForex
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/hotterforex/hotterforex-ecn/214203
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/hotterforex/hotterforex-pamm/218175
A brief introduction about our system:
-Running a combination of profitable EAs
-Controlled risk
-No martingale, no grid
-Good return - so far >20% in less than 2 weeks
-Reputable broker - HotForex. Not a dodgy broker like Instaforex (labelled scam on Forex Peace Army)
-Real, verified accounts
-PAMM service available: minimum $500, 30% success fee
-Unfortunately we cannot disclose too much about our strategies/EAs but please don't hesitate to PM us if interested
-Please check our account page info tab on how to join
regards,
HotterForex
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/hotterforex/hotterforex-ecn/214203
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/hotterforex/hotterforex-pamm/218175
会员从Nov 18, 2011开始
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Jan 09, 2012 at 01:54
NextLevelForex posted:
Thanks Jacob, I added the account to my watchlist!
Do you use Martingale-like management? I see negative realized pips on Dec 29 and Jan 04, while the growth line went up.
hello friend
yes I do use martigle and have enjoyed the results, but always using a protection course
会员从Mar 16, 2011开始
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Jan 09, 2012 at 15:29
does anyone have experience or an intelligent opinion about eToro or currensee.com as platforms for a managed account?? thanks
会员从Nov 18, 2011开始
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Jan 09, 2012 at 15:42
olá amigo,
nao recomendo
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