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they are the most profitable pairs ... ?

xgavinc
Nov 16 2012 at 12:16
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RollingStones74 posted:
Fxringleader posted:
We Don't care: we will trade ANY pair any time... Our system is a true Neural network based on Joone Open source Code, so if a pair is being a bitch that day our system will know it! and Make some instant Adjustments and then, smack some pips out that bitch....

Lol that`s such passion in trading)I just saw your graph, what the matter with you today?)

Won 41% of the time, Lose 59% of the time... looks like the b!tch smacks back. 😁
For every loss there should be at least an equal and opposite profit.
Forex Signals By Forex RingLeader (Fxringleader)
Nov 16 2012 at 14:13
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you can win more then you lose and still lose money 'FACT' take a look at an experimental test we did in agust

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Fxringleader/forex-ring-leader-review-/354960 we actually lost -118 pips but still made 29% return for the month. bet you dont see that often. we learned a lot from that month. and have applied the same logic to this newer system. so even if we managed to go up side down in pips it would still make money. we are going to push the limits of this system hard. going to put it thru all the paces, all the pairs. but no matter what the market throws at it. it will still make a profit at the end of 30 days. thats somthing a lot of people on here can't say there systems can do.... so no worrys just keep an eye on that account and compare notes to your own system. may the best coder win...
xgavinc
Nov 18 2012 at 16:54
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I'm curious... if the system is so good, why is the 'proof' always shown through demo accounts? I have made millions on demo's with various systems and they crash and burn on live accounts. I'd say, put you money where your mouth is and show us live account stats over 30, 60 and 90 days. If you want to be taken seriously, only live stats will work, 'FACT'.
For every loss there should be at least an equal and opposite profit.
Forex Signals By Forex RingLeader (Fxringleader)
Nov 18 2012 at 19:30
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Okay it's clear some of you have taken offense to what we posted, and taking it kind of personal, I'm not going to apologize because you may have had bad results with your own personal demo accounts or live accounts for that matter (which is part of trading we've all been there). We were simply giving some good advice to the original question that had been posted on this form.
We have been around for many years so we are actually in the position to actually give advice “based on years of trial and error”. The types of trading systems we use are not for the casual investor. Some of you are missing the significance of what the last account represents, what we posted was simply illustrating a benchmark of what your personal systems could be doing. We actually sat there and recorded the system trading for 24-hour straight hours and compressed into a one-hour video. We see people post videos all the time, but they're taking oversize leveraged trades, in this video you will see that every single trade is a micro lot, this is not some curve fitting back tested result.

A majority of the trades are several pips in size. Scalping systems that tend to lose when they go live is because the average trade target size was five pips or less. Which means when you do go to trade live you’re dealing with broker spreads and slippage, which ultimately eat into your systems profit, so what you'll see in this particular video is a Morrill listed approach to trading. Also in this video. It's not using some ridiculous leverage settings like 100:1 or 500:1 it's using a very low American Standard of 50:1 . These are very realistic settings for realistic expectations.

This system in the video where posting is using a very sophisticated trading strategy that's not mentioned in any public Forex form. In this video you will see it go up trend and downtrend and deal with the channeling market, including whip saw things that damage most systems on contact, But when you watch the video you'll see what we are talking about. You'll see the system take hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of trades. Not just a dozen like you see in other videos. There is clearly a defined performance edge.

 We're compiling it now and getting ready to upload to the Internet so you guys can take a closer look at what the system was actually doing. We do not mind collaborating with other system designers. In the long run will make more money….




Special Note to the above poster 'xgavinc' From South Africa, your using leverage settings that are way to high, means underfunded account looking for fast profits. not sustaininable. this is one of the contributing factos as to why you have wiped out 2 live accounts. it does not matter if its demo or live, those type of setting will kill an account.

xgavinc
Nov 18 2012 at 20:58
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Well, we will have to see, besides I trade for the enjoyment of trading (it's a hobby), not to make fast profits (though it would be a bonus if i actually did make a lot, but for me it's for the challenge), I agree that capital plays a role in your ability to hold off on margin calls, I don't agree that leverage dictates the success of your trading or system, if it's profitable, it will earn on any degree of leverage. My question was toward posters in general posting their fabulous unbeatable system and providing 'proof' of it on demo accounts. My intention was not to attack you or your system (even though you are clearly attacking me), I don't know you or your system (and now, wouldn't want to). The question was about using live accounts as proof of results, end of point. And nobody (at least not someone smart enough) will buy into demo results. Any and all investors out there will not take your demo results as proof (so actually trying to help you). I just wanted to see your system on a live account, but it's ok, I'm not interested anymore.
For every loss there should be at least an equal and opposite profit.
Forex Signals By Forex RingLeader (Fxringleader)
Nov 18 2012 at 22:53
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Same here was not trying to sound combative or attacking you as well, we are looking to make new friends and alliances, the type of systems we use in house we would not sell to anyone lease/rent sure but 'sell it' no that is something we have never done in the last 7 years. we will leave that to the (slick click bank sellers) to do... This week we are rolling out some new test features so we are excited to see what the system will do this week. we added 'activated' another 4,000 lines worth of code. there is a hand full of 'Market Order quarks' it will be looking for....
SaltyWaters
Nov 18 2012 at 23:18
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Indeed, without sounding that I'm attacking you Forex RingLeader I agree with xgavinc. What stops you from publishing a Real account?



xgavinc posted:
I'm curious... if the system is so good, why is the 'proof' always shown through demo accounts? I have made millions on demo's with various systems and they crash and burn on live accounts. I'd say, put you money where your mouth is and show us live account stats over 30, 60 and 90 days. If you want to be taken seriously, only live stats will work, 'FACT'.
David (RollingStones74)
Nov 28 2012 at 10:07
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I agree with you 77z3-FX.com. The problem is the developers don't wanna to spend a lot of time to test EA. They mostly just want to sell them very fast.
If you want to end up with a nonaverage net worth, a “learn from someone else” attitude is paramount. Putting your ego aside and admitting that you don’t know it all isn’t easy, but it is the mindset of true winner ----Paul Tudor Jones.
xgavinc
Nov 28 2012 at 10:31
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Back on topic, the question was EUR/USD most profitable? ehm, no. It has the most liquidity, ie. you are pretty much certain to get a buyer / seller on the other end as it is the most traded pair. most profitable would depend on lot sizes, the greater the size the more 'potential' profit, but just as great the loss of it goes against you.
For every loss there should be at least an equal and opposite profit.
TheLastBear
Dec 03 2012 at 11:21
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xgavinc posted:
Back on topic, the question was EUR/USD most profitable? ehm, no. It has the most liquidity, ie. you are pretty much certain to get a buyer / seller on the other end as it is the most traded pair. most profitable would depend on lot sizes, the greater the size the more 'potential' profit, but just as great the loss of it goes against you.

Exactly, the most profitable pair depends on the individual trader.
Pax puts the X in Forex.
David (RollingStones74)
Dec 12 2012 at 10:00
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xgavinc posted:
Back on topic, the question was EUR/USD most profitable? ehm, no. It has the most liquidity, ie. you are pretty much certain to get a buyer / seller on the other end as it is the most traded pair. most profitable would depend on lot sizes, the greater the size the more 'potential' profit, but just as great the loss of it goes against you.

that's true.
I think that we can say about any pair, that it's profitable, if it for example raises for a long time. Like Gold. And as a long period we can take more than year.
but in the same time you can get more on EURUSD than on XAUUSD just because EURUSD has more volatility.
If you want to end up with a nonaverage net worth, a “learn from someone else” attitude is paramount. Putting your ego aside and admitting that you don’t know it all isn’t easy, but it is the mindset of true winner ----Paul Tudor Jones.
TheLastBear
Dec 19 2012 at 15:17
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It all boils down to what strategy you use and how well you execute it.
Pax puts the X in Forex.
David (RollingStones74)
Dec 20 2012 at 08:05
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@TheLastBear I can't not to agree with you) strategies always matter
If you want to end up with a nonaverage net worth, a “learn from someone else” attitude is paramount. Putting your ego aside and admitting that you don’t know it all isn’t easy, but it is the mindset of true winner ----Paul Tudor Jones.
TheLastBear
Dec 20 2012 at 14:07
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RollingStones74 posted:
@TheLastBear I can't not to agree with you) strategies always matter

Yes, too bad there are so many traders who think there is a holy grail that always works and are too lazy to put in the work required to learn how to trade.
Pax puts the X in Forex.
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