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Who can earn 100% return a month with a DD below 50% and on a regular basis?

mrtodd
Dec 12 2015 at 14:26
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William82 posted:
Hello,

First of all,
100% per month is very high number, but it's achievable.
Only question, is if you will get this 100% per month like steady profit, or one month there will 100% profit and other just 5% or even negative.
I have a few EA's + manual trading and i am very lucky if i am at least near 100% per month using all them together...
More or less i am getting around 40-50% per month and it's not bad at all..


40-50% is awesome. I'm sure everyone here would be happy with that.

You've gotta be in it to win it.
Ari Goldman (arigoldman)
Dec 12 2015 at 16:57
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I believe you do not set rules without first asking if Mr Market is ok with this.

FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Dec 12 2015 at 17:27
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mrtodd posted:
wortrader posted:
100% is hard. 10 is ok


Ok, so lets look at it in the same context that FxMasterGuru put it....

Who can make 10% a month with only a 5% draw down on a regular basis?


So here is the challenge: Who can make 10% a month with only a 5% draw down on a regular basis?

Anybody...?? Come on, guys...!!!

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FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Dec 12 2015 at 17:28
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arigoldman posted:
I believe you do not set rules without first asking if Mr Market is ok with this.


F*** Mr. Market, which is 95% losers...

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FXtrader2010
Dec 12 2015 at 22:57
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FxMasterGuru posted:
mrtodd posted:
wortrader posted:
100% is hard. 10 is ok


Ok, so lets look at it in the same context that FxMasterGuru put it....

Who can make 10% a month with only a 5% draw down on a regular basis?


So here is the challenge: Who can make 10% a month with only a 5% draw down on a regular basis?

Anybody...?? Come on, guys...!!!
10% gain with 20%max dd is more realistic

hermonysystem
Dec 13 2015 at 07:58
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Hmm. I think I can do this.100% monthly return with dd below 50%.

HolyGrailPTY
Dec 13 2015 at 08:03
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The problem here is the people who say 'It can't happen' are only saying that because 'they have never been able to do it'. The reality is people base their opinions on personal experiences and not on actual proof. First of all look at the examples people are using, referring to 'long term'. The reality is 'long-tern' is a very unspecific term used to describe time. Most of the people here want to make money long term, but the reality is no one can lose, nor win in the long term. You will eventually hit streaks which allows you to win/lose.

 @FXtrader2010 We look at your account ans clearly we see your pessimistic view on the market is because your live account has almost 3 times as high of a draw-down then your actual overall gain. Honestly, you should be the last person speaking about what can or can not be done. Many factors come into why an account may blow, but that silly explanation of ' cyclical global macro changing the market price discovery dynamics' is beyond pointless. No matter WHAT is going on in the world, the market trades within certain parameters called 'price action'. If a person traded price action, and only price action then that is how he/she would be able to consistently earn profits week in and week out. Price action is the only constant in this market and everything else is randomness which in no way share or form can lead to accuracy while entering a position.
  

 At the end of the day it is very easy to say that 'xyz is not possible or improbable' but if a person can do it in the short term, it can also be done in the long term.

FXtrader2010
Dec 13 2015 at 18:25
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HolyGrailPTY posted:
The problem here is the people who say 'It can't happen' are only saying that because 'they have never been able to do it'. The reality is people base their opinions on personal experiences and not on actual proof. First of all look at the examples people are using, referring to 'long term'. The reality is 'long-tern' is a very unspecific term used to describe time. Most of the people here want to make money long term, but the reality is no one can lose, nor win in the long term. You will eventually hit streaks which allows you to win/lose.

 @FXtrader2010 We look at your account ans clearly we see your pessimistic view on the market is because your live account has almost 3 times as high of a draw-down then your actual overall gain. Honestly, you should be the last person speaking about what can or can not be done. Many factors come into why an account may blow, but that silly explanation of ' cyclical global macro changing the market price discovery dynamics' is beyond pointless. No matter WHAT is going on in the world, the market trades within certain parameters called 'price action'. If a person traded price action, and only price action then that is how he/she would be able to consistently earn profits week in and week out. Price action is the only constant in this market and everything else is randomness which in no way share or form can lead to accuracy while entering a position.
  

 At the end of the day it is very easy to say that 'xyz is not possible or improbable' but if a person can do it in the short term, it can also be done in the long term.


 I have made almost 1000% in one day TWICE. the first time was with under 30% DD and the second time was probably closer to above 50% DD with REAL money, so I think I can actually contribute to this thread. Good luck in your trading, you going to need it.

hermonysystem
Dec 14 2015 at 07:15
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HolyGrailPTY posted:
The problem here is the people who say 'It can't happen' are only saying that because 'they have never been able to do it'. The reality is people base their opinions on personal experiences and not on actual proof. First of all look at the examples people are using, referring to 'long term'. The reality is 'long-tern' is a very unspecific term used to describe time. Most of the people here want to make money long term, but the reality is no one can lose, nor win in the long term. You will eventually hit streaks which allows you to win/lose.

 @FXtrader2010 We look at your account ans clearly we see your pessimistic view on the market is because your live account has almost 3 times as high of a draw-down then your actual overall gain. Honestly, you should be the last person speaking about what can or can not be done. Many factors come into why an account may blow, but that silly explanation of ' cyclical global macro changing the market price discovery dynamics' is beyond pointless. No matter WHAT is going on in the world, the market trades within certain parameters called 'price action'. If a person traded price action, and only price action then that is how he/she would be able to consistently earn profits week in and week out. Price action is the only constant in this market and everything else is randomness which in no way share or form can lead to accuracy while entering a position.

 At the end of the day it is very easy to say that 'xyz is not possible or improbable' but if a person can do it in the short term, it can also be done in the long term.


I am agree with u.Actually U cant make a goal set like turning 5k to millionaire within a week or year.If u dont have master plan and risk reward ratio.U have to setup ur goal piece by piece like how An architecture made blue print of biggest building.Lots of factor together can make his blue print possible.But U know making a pyramid is not possible till now.But those pyramid was made long time ago when there wasn't tiniest facilities compare to now.So now making pyramid is impossible as expert opinion.But do u think is it really impossible.????

Actually we cant make the pyramid now.Cause we dont have the knowledge what made it possible when the pyramid was maid.

When U ll get the knowledge we can do this very simple.Like copy and past a song.Once good singer can only store songs.But reality changed now.

Hope u guys understand my philosophy.

hermonysystem
Dec 14 2015 at 07:15
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I want to share u a secret of mine.What make me do more success with trading.Scalping trend reverse.If u learn it u ll easily figure out the markets emotion.Try to figure out in which point market catching big volume engagement.And try to figure out what could be the best reason for this.And compare what result market showing.Actually its the basic of finance price action theory.Trade like surfing.Always try to be a stay in a floating position where u can stable urself by getting help of trend movement and play with ur target.

Flybird73
Dec 14 2015 at 07:16
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From my experience i managed to hit 20% on monthly basis with 1/1 profit to risk ratio for three consecutive months. It can be done. You have to think and act like a professional tader. Learn to trust your edge and take every opportunity that the market offers😎 without habitation and never break the rules. It is a probabilities game and it should be in your favor if your edge is correct.
 

HolyGrailPTY
Dec 14 2015 at 07:37
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FXtrader2010 posted:
HolyGrailPTY posted:
The problem here is the people who say 'It can't happen' are only saying that because 'they have never been able to do it'. The reality is people base their opinions on personal experiences and not on actual proof. First of all look at the examples people are using, referring to 'long term'. The reality is 'long-tern' is a very unspecific term used to describe time. Most of the people here want to make money long term, but the reality is no one can lose, nor win in the long term. You will eventually hit streaks which allows you to win/lose.

 @FXtrader2010 We look at your account ans clearly we see your pessimistic view on the market is because your live account has almost 3 times as high of a draw-down then your actual overall gain. Honestly, you should be the last person speaking about what can or can not be done. Many factors come into why an account may blow, but that silly explanation of ' cyclical global macro changing the market price discovery dynamics' is beyond pointless. No matter WHAT is going on in the world, the market trades within certain parameters called 'price action'. If a person traded price action, and only price action then that is how he/she would be able to consistently earn profits week in and week out. Price action is the only constant in this market and everything else is randomness which in no way share or form can lead to accuracy while entering a position.
  

 At the end of the day it is very easy to say that 'xyz is not possible or improbable' but if a person can do it in the short term, it can also be done in the long term.


 I have made almost 1000% in one day TWICE. the first time was with under 30% DD and the second time was probably closer to above 50% DD with REAL money, so I think I can actually contribute to this thread. Good luck in your trading, you going to need it.


 What good is it to make such high returns if you are going to lose it in less then 24 hours?

hermonysystem
Dec 14 2015 at 09:39
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I am not gonna lose it within 24 hours.U ll realize it if I can fulfill my challenge.

HolyGrailPTY
Dec 14 2015 at 15:06
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hermonysystem posted:
I am not gonna lose it within 24 hours.U ll realize it if I can fulfill my challenge.


well deposit 10 usd in an account and prove it. Don't tell me you don't even have 10 usd to deposit into an account.

hermonysystem
Dec 14 2015 at 15:59
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Hmm!!!I am gonna start with 5k in ICM ecn account.But let me finish my current challenge.

Idahoan
Dec 14 2015 at 22:59
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'well deposit 10 usd in an account and prove it. Don't tell me you don't even have 10 usd to deposit into an account.'

How do I do this?

Idahoan

Christ the Son of God
FXtrader2010
Dec 15 2015 at 00:14
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HolyGrailPTY posted:
FXtrader2010 posted:
HolyGrailPTY posted:
The problem here is the people who say 'It can't happen' are only saying that because 'they have never been able to do it'. The reality is people base their opinions on personal experiences and not on actual proof. First of all look at the examples people are using, referring to 'long term'. The reality is 'long-tern' is a very unspecific term used to describe time. Most of the people here want to make money long term, but the reality is no one can lose, nor win in the long term. You will eventually hit streaks which allows you to win/lose.

 @FXtrader2010 We look at your account ans clearly we see your pessimistic view on the market is because your live account has almost 3 times as high of a draw-down then your actual overall gain. Honestly, you should be the last person speaking about what can or can not be done. Many factors come into why an account may blow, but that silly explanation of ' cyclical global macro changing the market price discovery dynamics' is beyond pointless. No matter WHAT is going on in the world, the market trades within certain parameters called 'price action'. If a person traded price action, and only price action then that is how he/she would be able to consistently earn profits week in and week out. Price action is the only constant in this market and everything else is randomness which in no way share or form can lead to accuracy while entering a position.
  

 At the end of the day it is very easy to say that 'xyz is not possible or improbable' but if a person can do it in the short term, it can also be done in the long term.


 I have made almost 1000% in one day TWICE. the first time was with under 30% DD and the second time was probably closer to above 50% DD with REAL money, so I think I can actually contribute to this thread. Good luck in your trading, you going to need it.


 What good is it to make such high returns if you are going to lose it in less then 24 hours?
I withdrew it all, impossible to lose to broker.

socks
Dec 15 2015 at 07:48
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To clear up some of the comments about what FXtrader2010 has been saying. To say something CAN'T be done because no one has done it before is just as stupid as saying it CAN be done because no one has done it before. Say someone told me that I should jump out of a plane without a parachute because I could fly. If that persons supporting argument was 'just because you've never done it or seen it done doesn't mean you can't now.' I would throw them out and fly back with the plane.

100% per month, every month, if you really think about it is insane profit. Start with 1000 dollars and you would be at $838,860,800 by your second year. That is a billion dollars from 1k in just over 2 years. By the end of your 3rd year you would be making double the entire budget of the U.S.A. Just looking at those numbers alone makes a good case for why it seems unlikely to find people with such a strategy. Let alone the fact of having to manage how the strategy evolves as you reach lot sizes equal to national budgets. However there is a small chance of ANYTHING happening (it could start raining lollipops). So if OP wants to post a thread looking for lollipop sightings that's cool. Just be warned that if you hear someone talking about lollipop rain and you buy the plane ticket to go see it you run the very real risk of looking stupid.

Anything is possible, of which, very little happens.

HolyGrailPTY
Dec 15 2015 at 08:16
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FXtrader2010 posted:
HolyGrailPTY posted:
FXtrader2010 posted:
HolyGrailPTY posted:
The problem here is the people who say 'It can't happen' are only saying that because 'they have never been able to do it'. The reality is people base their opinions on personal experiences and not on actual proof. First of all look at the examples people are using, referring to 'long term'. The reality is 'long-tern' is a very unspecific term used to describe time. Most of the people here want to make money long term, but the reality is no one can lose, nor win in the long term. You will eventually hit streaks which allows you to win/lose.

 @FXtrader2010 We look at your account ans clearly we see your pessimistic view on the market is because your live account has almost 3 times as high of a draw-down then your actual overall gain. Honestly, you should be the last person speaking about what can or can not be done. Many factors come into why an account may blow, but that silly explanation of ' cyclical global macro changing the market price discovery dynamics' is beyond pointless. No matter WHAT is going on in the world, the market trades within certain parameters called 'price action'. If a person traded price action, and only price action then that is how he/she would be able to consistently earn profits week in and week out. Price action is the only constant in this market and everything else is randomness which in no way share or form can lead to accuracy while entering a position.
  

 At the end of the day it is very easy to say that 'xyz is not possible or improbable' but if a person can do it in the short term, it can also be done in the long term.


 I have made almost 1000% in one day TWICE. the first time was with under 30% DD and the second time was probably closer to above 50% DD with REAL money, so I think I can actually contribute to this thread. Good luck in your trading, you going to need it.


 What good is it to make such high returns if you are going to lose it in less then 24 hours?
I withdrew it all, impossible to lose to broker.


 Where is the proof that you have done it? I don't see anything at all which proves your claim!

hermonysystem
Dec 15 2015 at 08:17
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socks posted:
To clear up some of the comments about what FXtrader2010 has been saying. To say something CAN'T be done because no one has done it before is just as stupid as saying it CAN be done because no one has done it before. Say someone told me that I should jump out of a plane without a parachute because I could fly. If that persons supporting argument was 'just because you've never done it or seen it done doesn't mean you can't now.' I would throw them out and fly back with the plane.

100% per month, every month, if you really think about it is insane profit. Start with 1000 dollars and you would be at $838,860,800 by your second year. That is a billion dollars from 1k in just over 2 years. By the end of your 3rd year you would be making double the entire budget of the U.S.A. Just looking at those numbers alone makes a good case for why it seems unlikely to find people with such a strategy. Let alone the fact of having to manage how the strategy evolves as you reach lot sizes equal to national budgets. However there is a small chance of ANYTHING happening (it could start raining lollipops). So if OP wants to post a thread looking for lollipop sightings that's cool. Just be warned that if you hear someone talking about lollipop rain and you buy the plane ticket to go see it you run the very real risk of looking stupid.

Anything is possible, of which, very little happens.


Very Interesting.

I have taken a challenge to make 1 million from 5k within 1 month is it possible?If u dont thing its possible.I am 100% sure I can do this.please chk my trading progress.And tell me what do u thing.


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