FRWC - Fusion V - Alpari讨论

pipst posted:
It doesn't look good when they keep swapping Fusion versions without notification, I agree. They would make themselves look a lot better if they talked/emailed their customers with their intentions and why they were doing it. Having said that it does say on the EA Lab section of their website (where Fusion is downloaded from) 'Important: The following FRWC Section is strictly experimental.' So as far as that goes nothing is set in stone.

Here is a link to my Demo of Fusion v1.1a. I made no changes to the ea whatsoever. Lots are 0.05 and Lots Risk Reductor is 5.0.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/pipst/frwc-fusion-v11a-alpari-demo/18138

I am also running a test on LMD on its own with recommended settings and that is currently +4.09%.

There is certainly connection/disconnection issues when using a demo account which is a real pain and which also may be contributing to peoples differing results.

eafinder posted:

Lots Risk Reductor at 5.0 means that EACH position is going to risk 5% of your account. So let's say HiRIDER strategy 2 opens 10 positions for you simulataneously, then you are risking 50% of your account with just one HiRIDER strategy.

Clearpaper posted:

eafinder posted:

Lots Risk Reductor at 5.0 means that EACH position is going to risk 5% of your account. So let's say HiRIDER strategy 2 opens 10 positions for you simulataneously, then you are risking 50% of your account with just one HiRIDER strategy.

Lots Risk Reductor is not the same as Maximum Risk per position. For one trade event which opens multiple positions, it reduces the next position's lot size by that factor.

Next position's lot size = Current position's lotsize - Current position's lotsize x Lots Risk Reductor/100

Useful when you cannot define a SL. Or for calculating the next position size when you do not, cannot, or can't bother to poll the leverage that the broker is providing.

Chuks posted:
... I keep wondering what the beauty of trading is with these EA's.
Trade manual people! That is when you begin to enjoy the monster called FOREX!!

Fulltime247 posted:

Chuks posted:
... I keep wondering what the beauty of trading is with these EA's.
Trade manual people! That is when you begin to enjoy the monster called FOREX!!

The beauty is that I'm profitably trading while I sleep, workout, go on a date, hang at the club, drink too much and fall out in the bathroom while upchucking in the toilet. (Ahhhh... Good Times) and NOT stuck in front of a screen staring at charts!!

eafinder posted:
Per the manual, it says the following:
LotsRiskReductor - defines the risk for Money Management system. For example, if you set LotsRiskReductor = 5, then EA will risk 5% of your available margin to open "a new position" and will calculate the lot size accordingly.

I don't think HiRIDER opening 10 trades is considered one trade event. I have put a limit to HiRIDER to 5 max trades prior to the disaster several days ago (I have since reduce it to a maximum of 2 now). I have put $10K money trading live with Fusion. UseMM = True, LotsRiskReductor = 1.5. My broker only accepts 0.1 minimum lot (mini account). Fusion opened 5 trades HiRIDER several days ago, each with 0.1 lot. This is risking 5 x 2.1% = 10% if the stop loss gets hit. Thankfully, it didn't hit the stop loss and yesterday it closed in 12 pips profit. What a dumb luck. If LotsRiskReductor works as you said, it won't open 5 trades around the same time, each with 0.1 lot since I have specified LotsRiskReductor = 1.5 (the default). Each HiRIDER trade is considered a separate event (separate "new position) even though it may be opened using the same strategy, around the same time and around similar price.

eafinder posted:
Fusion opened 3 trades Super Volcano for me yesterday around the same time with slightly different price point, each position also with 0.1 lot. This is definitely risking more than 1.5% of the equity in TOTAL for just one strategy. So I think SV opening 3 trades is considered a different position each time too.

Clearpaper posted:
Thanks for posting your obversations and tests, eafinder, and all the rest too, it really helps in understanding how this Fusion works.

I had one a/c set up with Fusion, starting equity $5k, Lots = 0.0, UseMM = True, LotsRiskReductor = 17.0 (very high). Fusion(HiRider s2) opened 10 trades with the lotsizing as such.

Recorded__.Reduction
Lot size____Factor
0.62
0.51______17.74
0.43______15.69
0.35______18.60
0.29______17.14
0.24______17.24
0.20______16.67
0.16______20.00
0.13______18.75
0.11______15.58

It did reduce the lot size. The reduction factor is not exactly 17 probably due to the price changes (affecting the margin -> x100 effect) as the trades are being placed. Or because the lot sizes couldn't have a 3rd decimel place.

Would like to have other people post their HiRider trades if using MM and post their LRR too, if possible. (Stop lurking and post, you wankers. ;) )

I reckon the difference in performance we had is due to me setting Lots=0.0 to enable the MM. Something the manual did not tell us to do. And I'm sure, like me, you might have found the manuals sorely lacking in instructions and explanations. Too simplistic, and in the case of LRR, simply wrong.

One thing I don't know is how the 1st trade's lot size is calculated. $5k balance, LRR=17, 1st trade is 0.62. Anyone understand why?