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5% average monthly profit for at least 2 years (with less than 25% max. DD)

kieran (snapdragon1970)
Dec 11 2016 at 17:22
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You don't need nerves of steel if your using the correct DD and risk management, get out of losing trades fast otherwise you become emotionally attached ,you might get lucky with pullbacks in the short term but it will catch up . I would look at hedge fund performance and see how they are preforming as an average , the results might surprise some traders.

"They mistook leverage with genius".
FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Dec 12 2016 at 07:22
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snapdragon1970 posted:
You don't need nerves of steel if your using the correct DD and risk management, get out of losing trades fast otherwise you become emotionally attached ,you might get lucky with pullbacks in the short term but it will catch up . I would look at hedge fund performance and see how they are preforming as an average , the results might surprise some traders.


Mines are not from steel, so I prefer to keep Monthly Profit : Max. DD ratio at least 1 : 1 or better....

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mazzeltof
Dec 13 2016 at 07:55
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snapdragon1970 posted:
Why have such a large DD , why not set it at 5-10% and re buy at a better price , if you believe a price is going to pull back what's wrong with buying it cheaper or selling it more expensive , higher gains.

I think that will affect me more psychologically.
I still have some open long usdjpy opened at 120. TP is at 121, 122 and 125. In case I would have closed at 110 and opened again 3 positions with 121, 122 and 125 I would probably have done the same when it went down to 100. By now I could have had 3 open positions, all with 1500 pip profit. It's kind a hard not to close them.

Also sseing positions in deep red makes me more aware I should be carefull all the time and always keep calculating what it means if it goes another 500, 1000 or even 2000 pips against me.

FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Dec 13 2016 at 08:43
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Yes, trading PSYCHOLOGY is a major LIVE test for each trader, which comes after developing a good strategy and running it on larger and larger accounts.

Usually there is a tipping point. For me it was when 3-digit profits and losses were jumping up and down on my screen... I just could not make any more rational decisions, even though I had a trading plan. (You know: ''Plan your trade and trade your Plan.'')

In other words: I have failed that test - even after reading many books on trading psychology - so for the past years I have been concentrating on automated trading.

Some advantages:
1. No emotions, no anxiety, no fear or greed.
2. More free time, better sleep.
3. And finally: There is nothing better than making profits while sleeping (especially while trading the Asian session from Europe).

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CrazyTraderfx (CrazyTrader)
Dec 13 2016 at 09:14
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I do agree with point 2 and 3.
3 is awesome while experiencing it ^^

Point 1 is still here and there, because I watch opened trade... even demo account I feel it. I would add euphoria too.

If I start my strategy that I'm testing by now from last 2 years in 2017, I'll post back here in 2019 ^^

FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Dec 13 2016 at 09:55
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CrazyTrader posted:
I do agree with point 2 and 3.
3 is awesome while experiencing it ^^

Point 1 is still here and there, because I watch opened trade... even demo account I feel it. I would add euphoria too.

If I start my strategy that I'm testing by now from last 2 years in 2017, I'll post back here in 2019 ^^


I prefer not to watch the trades as many times I felt the temptation to click on ''CLOSE'' while watching. Either out of FEAR or GREED.

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CrazyTraderfx (CrazyTrader)
Dec 13 2016 at 11:16
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FxMasterGuru posted:
I prefer not to watch the trades as many times I felt the temptation to click on ''CLOSE'' while watching. Either out of FEAR or GREED.


We are all suffering from the same temptation especially when at home... During work, I watch from myfxbook or forexFactory.

I have implemented pyramidage (adding trades)... so if x% is reached, EA will close all profit. OMG, EA has finally clicked the CLOSE button by itself ^^

CrazyTraderfx (CrazyTrader)
Dec 14 2016 at 07:27
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How many dead links we have in this thread?
99% accounts have been deleted or haven't been updated since ages.

I check systems here because I wanted to compared the last ratio provided by myfxbook 'GHPR' from advanced statistics.
Not the right place.

By the way @FxMasterGuru , have you summarized systems that meet all criterias... or the challenge hasn't been completed by anyone yet?


FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Dec 14 2016 at 10:58
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This thread was started almost 3 YEARS ago, but so far no strategy has fully qualified for the mentioned criteria, even though these criteria would be SUBOPTIMAL for me as I would not invest in any strategy with worse than 1 : 1 Monthly Profit : Max. DD ratio, and the title would accept strategies even with a 1 : 5 ratio.

Over the past years I have seen many ''VERIFIED'', HAND CRAFTED ''amazing'' strategies on MyFxBook created and housed by offshore scam brokers with the intention of attracting clients and funds - creating a new type of Ponzi scheme - eventually crashing the accounts with ONE SINGLE ''bad trade''...

So - in view of these newest scams - I would add one more criteria to the title: Only those accounts qualify which are running at reputable, ASIC/FCA regulated mainstream brokers.

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vontogr (togr)
Dec 15 2016 at 09:20
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CrazyTrader posted:
How many dead links we have in this thread?
99% accounts have been deleted or haven't been updated since ages.

I check systems here because I wanted to compared the last ratio provided by myfxbook 'GHPR' from advanced statistics.
Not the right place.

By the way @FxMasterGuru , have you summarized systems that meet all criterias... or the challenge hasn't been completed by anyone yet?


@CrazyTrader
I have to say you are right ;)

vontogr (togr)
Dec 15 2016 at 09:24
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FxMasterGuru posted:
Can anybody show a VERIFIED LIVE account on MyFxBook with at least 5% average monthly profit for AT LEAST 2 YEARS and with less than 25% max. DD using a non-Martingale strategy...?

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/trixel/mt4-2906567/1539714
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/autotrade/long-vision/1489427
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexgermany/forex-real-profit-ea/803413

FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Dec 15 2016 at 10:53
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togr posted:
FxMasterGuru posted:
Can anybody show a VERIFIED LIVE account on MyFxBook with at least 5% average monthly profit for AT LEAST 2 YEARS and with less than 25% max. DD using a non-Martingale strategy...?

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/trixel/mt4-2906567/1539714
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/autotrade/long-vision/1489427
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexgermany/forex-real-profit-ea/803413


Thanks, Tomas! The first one uses Martingale, so it would not qualify, however, the 2nd and 3rd DO QUALIFY for the criteria.

Since their Monthly Profit : Max. DD ratio (1 : 5 and 1 : 4) are below my personal preference of 1 : 1 (or better), I would not invest with any of them.

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PreciseTrader (jasonssk)
Dec 18 2016 at 07:33
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https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ubertrading/ftk-4207/222343

Just click the custom analysis page and exclude first 2 months ie, start from Feb 2010 and you will see the average gain is less than 2% and dd is 9.52% and look at the pips per month , except for initial few months it is pathetic.

ForexManagerDBA posted:
Thank you MyFxBook for confirming (see email attached) that there is indeed an error in their monthly average profit calculation for many of our (and your) accounts and hopefully their development team will correct this in the near future. Simple maths and impossible to prove otherwise.

We rest our case: +5.4% per month with less than 10% DD over a period of 4.25 years on a single PAMM MyFxBook verified account...No grid, No martingale. Double the profit to DD ratio and double the duration searched for in this thread. Mfb single link and many others provided in earlier posts.

All the best with your trading!

vontogr (togr)
Dec 19 2016 at 08:51
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FxMasterGuru posted:
togr posted:
FxMasterGuru posted:
Can anybody show a VERIFIED LIVE account on MyFxBook with at least 5% average monthly profit for AT LEAST 2 YEARS and with less than 25% max. DD using a non-Martingale strategy...?

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/trixel/mt4-2906567/1539714
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/autotrade/long-vision/1489427
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexgermany/forex-real-profit-ea/803413


Thanks, Tomas! The first one uses Martingale, so it would not qualify, however, the 2nd and 3rd DO QUALIFY for the criteria.

Since their Monthly Profit : Max. DD ratio (1 : 5 and 1 : 4) are below my personal preference of 1 : 1 (or better), I would not invest with any of them.


@FxMasterGuru
Well these were just examples such strategies exist. I will of course want everyone to invest in my own systems :)

FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Dec 19 2016 at 10:04
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Yep, it is good to know that they exist at all. Again, thanks for the info!

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irwanwd
Dec 22 2016 at 07:39
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So, I'm hoping this thread will still exist in the next two years from now and at that time hopefully I can proof myself into this criterias. After tired with so many indicators, starting this Nov trading w/o indicators, and get 75% profit alone in this Dec with DD 22%. But, this is only the beginning. Wish me luck....


I apologise for any mistakes in my English

CrazyTraderfx (CrazyTrader)
Dec 22 2016 at 18:18
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irwanwd posted:
So, I'm hoping this thread will still exist in the next two years from now and at that time hopefully I can proof myself into this criterias. After tired with so many indicators, starting this Nov trading w/o indicators, and get 75% profit alone in this Dec with DD 22%. But, this is only the beginning. Wish me luck....


Don't worry, in 2 years time, this thread will be alive.

1 month trading performance isn't relevant because this period of time was just favorable to your strategy.
Anyway, I wish you success, but don't rely too much on luck^^

I think I'm the only one who can really challenge this.... The preparation was over 2 years!


kieran (snapdragon1970)
Dec 22 2016 at 18:25
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Might be worth checking out Shaun Overton , I have been following his stuff for awhile now,seems pretty genuine.

"They mistook leverage with genius".
CrazyTraderfx (CrazyTrader)
Dec 22 2016 at 18:41
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snapdragon1970 posted:
Might be worth checking out Shaun Overton , I have been following his stuff for awhile now,seems pretty genuine.


I know this guy.... A genius? o_O

A master genius to blow account like a newbie in 1 day.
Check out 'Balance' tab
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/QuantBar/high-risk-qb-pro/1051728
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/QuantBar/normal-leverage-qb-pro/1051732

kieran (snapdragon1970)
Dec 22 2016 at 19:14
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CrazyTrader posted:
snapdragon1970 posted:
Might be worth checking out Shaun Overton , I have been following his stuff for awhile now,seems pretty genuine.


I know this guy.... A genius? o_O

A master genius to blow account like a newbie in 1 day.
Check out 'Balance' tab
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/QuantBar/high-risk-qb-pro/1051728
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/QuantBar/normal-leverage-qb-pro/1051732

Good thing I just watch the interviews:)

"They mistook leverage with genius".
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