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20-40% performance fee (with high watermark) for Forex traders

petermatthew01 (petermatthew01)
Aug 28 2011 at 10:39
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Please contact me if I can be of further Assistant.

Buy Low - Sell High Upcoming expectations for the currency pair.
zainagha (zainagha)
Aug 28 2011 at 14:50
4 Beiträge
What sort of help can you provide and how to contact you?

Giving Is The Highest Form Of Living...Make Everyone Happy!
zainagha (zainagha)
Aug 28 2011 at 14:50
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zainagha posted:
    
NextLevelForex posted:
    James_Bond, Chunky Monkey and Steve Walker,

I'm actually looking for successful traders, whether they use automated systems or just manual trading. I checked the systems sections and found a lot of stuff there, and now I'm looking for humans who want to make decisions about what systems to trade (including manual strategies), when to stop trading or reduce the lot size, be able to tweak them when the market changes, and so on.

I don't see how your comments add value to this thread, so please post something of value for everyone reading here, if you care to share.

Have a great day everyone!


Hi Remus and All,

If you are looking for a Money Manager with 100% winning rate then you have found one.

I am sure you all will be delighted


Forgot to give you my link.
Here it is:
https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/dr-zain-agha-managed-accounts/155716

Giving Is The Highest Form Of Living...Make Everyone Happy!
Steve Walker
walker36 (walker36)
Aug 28 2011 at 15:03
1341 Beiträge

zainagha posted:
    
zainagha posted:
    
NextLevelForex posted:
    James_Bond, Chunky Monkey and Steve Walker,

I'm actually looking for successful traders, whether they use automated systems or just manual trading. I checked the systems sections and found a lot of stuff there, and now I'm looking for humans who want to make decisions about what systems to trade (including manual strategies), when to stop trading or reduce the lot size, be able to tweak them when the market changes, and so on.

I don't see how your comments add value to this thread, so please post something of value for everyone reading here, if you care to share.

Have a great day everyone!


Hi Remus and All,

If you are looking for a Money Manager with 100% winning rate then you have found one.

I am sure you all will be delighted


Forgot to give you my link.
Here it is:
https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/dr-zain-agha-managed-accounts/155716



yo forget to give your account link and will manage other peoples accounts.I am lucky than I am not one of those other people😂

zainagha (zainagha)
Aug 28 2011 at 17:09
4 Beiträge
I am not allowed to give my links on this forum.
That is considered as Spamming.
You can google and find me and my links.
Cheers

Giving Is The Highest Form Of Living...Make Everyone Happy!
Steve Walker
walker36 (walker36)
Aug 28 2011 at 21:40
1341 Beiträge

zainagha posted:
    I am not allowed to give my links on this forum.
That is considered as Spamming.
You can google and find me and my links.
Cheers

https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/dr-zain-agha-managed-accounts/155716

you are not allowed to give your links on this forum. But we can google!!! NO COMMENT
Have nice day

EliteFxPT
Aug 30 2011 at 23:39
21 Beiträge
If anyone is interested on investing on my PAMM account check the past performance on my PAMM LIVE trading account. I'm currently looking for investors. Terms and conditions depend on your investment.

Minimum investment of $1

check my PAMM system if interested or contact me for more information IF interested.

ForexScam
Aug 31 2011 at 16:12
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https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pipinvestment99/risk-capital-investors-fund/124751

Pips Expectancy formula:
18pips x .72 - 28pips x .28 /100

12.96 - 7.84 == 5.12

Pips Expectancy == 19.5 pips

1.47 Expectancy ratio

Once these numbers are crunched, what can we determine and how are these figures useful? Compare , discuss, improve..

NextLevelForex (NextLevelForex)
Sep 01 2011 at 05:00
262 Beiträge
zainagha posted:
If you are looking for a Money Manager with 100% winning rate then you have found one.


Thanks Dr. Zain Agha for your info!

As a matter of fact, I am not looking for 100% winning rate. I don't believe that can be achieved while having a reasonable draw-down (I won't give any number here, since that's not the topic for my thread). So when I see a system with 0 losses, I either ignore it, or, in some cases, I add it to my watch list. I only consider a system for my portfolio when it has enough losses to make me believe the system has had its fair share of losing trades.

Also, the system you have originally listed (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/zainagha/dr-zain-agha-managed-accounts/155716) is reported as having been deleted by its creator. When I checked it yesterday it had a very short history, like from Aug 26, if I remember correctly.

Now you have a different system in your profile, with history from 2 days ago. If you happen to have a loss in the original system, and that was the reason why you deleted it, I'm offering a very sincere advice: learn to accept the losses and stop chasing 100% winning rate. I really believe it will serve you better!

I wish you the best!

Remus

He who thinks he can, and he who thinks he cannot, are both right. ~ Henry Ford
NextLevelForex (NextLevelForex)
Sep 01 2011 at 05:24
262 Beiträge

ForexScam posted:
    https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pipinvestment99/risk-capital-investors-fund/124751

Pips Expectancy formula:
18pips x .72 - 28pips x .28 /100

12.96 - 7.84 == 5.12

Pips Expectancy == 19.5 pips

1.47 Expectancy ratio

Once these numbers are crunched, what can we determine and how are these figures useful? Compare , discuss, improve..



Thanks Will for your info, and especially for doing the number crunching I asked for. You are the 8th person to reply to my inquiry for account managers, and so far no one cared to even attempt to calculate the Pips Expectancy or the Ratio.

I'll calculate the numbers again for your system (your first calculation is off a bit due to rounding), and then use your system as example for what I'm looking for. I'll also explain how I use those numbers.

As of Aug 31, 22:00, you have 309 trades with 222 winners.
Myfxbook already calculated average winning trade as 17.71 and average losing trade as -28.20.

As a result, the numbers I am looking for are

<b>Pips Expectancy</b> = ( Average Pips Win * Winning Trades % + Average Pips Loss * Losing Trades % ) / 100
    = 17.71 * 222 / 309 - 28.20 * 87 / 309 (used the average pip loss with the negative value, as it is, here)
 ~= 12.72 - 7.94
    = <b>4.78</b>

<b>Expectancy Ratio</b> = Pips Expectancy / Average Pips Loss
    = 4.78 / 28.20 (used the average pip loss in absolute value here)
    = <b>0.17</b>

Looking at these values I can compare your result with tons of other than I'm tracking and have an as-good-as-possible apples-to-apples comparison. One reason for using these two formulas is because they strip away the leverage factor. I'm often presented with a system that makes huge gains each month; but when I look closely, that's only because the trader uses very high levels of leverage to achieve that. I'm certainly ok with using leverage, it's just that I want to be the one who decides how much the maximum leverage is.

If Pips Expectancy is too low, let's say 2 pips, then any extra slippage and/or commission I could incur in my account, versus your 'master' account, could have significant negative effects to the performance I'll get.

If the Expectancy Ratio is too low (0.15 is the lowest I'm comfortable with, but that's only for my watch list; 0.17 is the lowest I'm ok to be traded in my real accounts), it means the risk taken to make the pips is higher than for a similar system, that had the same net end result in terms of pips, but a higher Ratio.

So looking at results through the above two formulas allows me to see through the leverage and analyze only the ability to generate profits and contain losses.

In closing, I want to say that your results look good, and meet the thresholds I set for a system to be included in my portfolio, so we'll be in touch!

Happy trading,

Remus

He who thinks he can, and he who thinks he cannot, are both right. ~ Henry Ford
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