I want only a safe 4% each month... Which EA?? Thank you

Nov 02, 2012 at 10:42
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Mitglied seit Sep 11, 2012   53 Posts
Nov 25, 2013 at 21:45 (bearbeitet Nov 25, 2013 at 21:46)
SwissManagement posted:
We are a team on forex since 8 years. We can manage your funds from 100$. We have hotforex pamm account.
We use stop loss and hedging to avoid big drawdown.

You can earn 10% average each month. Try us and you will see we are serious. We have an office in Geneva in Switzerland.
If you have any question, ask us.

Regards
What's the name of your company? We're a fund based in Geneva and the regulator would never let you advertise online like this.

You're a scam.

And 10% a month is everything but serious, just like 'hedging' in the fx market.

No serious professional will let you open a 100$ account, why would you? Actually, I have never seen a good account manager who opens anything below 100k$. No offence.
I work in a hedge fund.
Mitglied seit Dec 07, 2012   22 Posts
Nov 26, 2013 at 04:19
forexpipcatcha posted:
mechie posted:
 At the moment their is something wrong with the server of myfxbook which doesn't allow me to upload the snapshot of my account. Yet, by clicking my name........ then selecting 'Phoenix Capital Management' followed by clicking the 5th tab which says 'Drawdown' you can clearly see our drawdown % per month. 80% was within the very first days of creating the aforementioned PAMM account.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you hid account funds for those accounts that you started with very low funds right and you chose to show those with a larger fund size yes? Is that to impress the nonames of this world?

By the way I watched your hotforex PAMM account since it was 60%+

   We've been fully transparent with our account. We continue to perform with less then a 20% monthly drawdown. We are the best options for those who are in need of assistance.
Mitglied seit Aug 30, 2013   325 Posts
Nov 26, 2013 at 05:44
mechie posted:
forexpipcatcha posted:
mechie posted:
 At the moment their is something wrong with the server of myfxbook which doesn't allow me to upload the snapshot of my account. Yet, by clicking my name........ then selecting 'Phoenix Capital Management' followed by clicking the 5th tab which says 'Drawdown' you can clearly see our drawdown % per month. 80% was within the very first days of creating the aforementioned PAMM account.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you hid account funds for those accounts that you started with very low funds right and you chose to show those with a larger fund size yes? Is that to impress the nonames of this world?

By the way I watched your hotforex PAMM account since it was 60%+

   We've been fully transparent with our account. We continue to perform with less then a 20% monthly drawdown. We are the best options for those who are in need of assistance.

what's your Fund managers license number
Mitglied seit Dec 07, 2012   22 Posts
Nov 26, 2013 at 11:34
forexpipcatcha posted:
mechie posted:
forexpipcatcha posted:
mechie posted:
 At the moment their is something wrong with the server of myfxbook which doesn't allow me to upload the snapshot of my account. Yet, by clicking my name........ then selecting 'Phoenix Capital Management' followed by clicking the 5th tab which says 'Drawdown' you can clearly see our drawdown % per month. 80% was within the very first days of creating the aforementioned PAMM account.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you hid account funds for those accounts that you started with very low funds right and you chose to show those with a larger fund size yes? Is that to impress the nonames of this world?

By the way I watched your hotforex PAMM account since it was 60%+

   We've been fully transparent with our account. We continue to perform with less then a 20% monthly drawdown. We are the best options for those who are in need of assistance.

what's your Fund managers license number

 PAMM managers aren't assigned one. As PAMM managers work directly with the brokers, and not the clients. The broker itself is responsible for all the paper pushing, and have a legally binding contract with those who want their money to be managed.
Mitglied seit Aug 30, 2013   325 Posts
Nov 26, 2013 at 12:00 (bearbeitet Nov 26, 2013 at 12:03)
That depends on the country you're in. If you run a PAMM account without a license you are liable for many things. Just because certain brokers take no responsibility and allow fools to ruin some investors accounts doesn't mean that's the correct thing to do.
In your case you are at no risk what's so ever even if you blow the investors account. i.e no insurance company will insure me against loss, theft or damages because you fail to pertain a PAMM managers license. But this is the reason why you didn't take out a $2mill loan or more and trade it for yourself instead you want to gamble with other peoples money and if you happen to make them profits you chose to split the difference. But if you lose their money like that fool Ramin then you accept no responsibility and the broker wipes their hands of any wrong doing!

I'll tell you what though...i'll make you a deal ... since you're very sure of making profits and sustaining it I want you to take out a loan for $500k and trade it for me and we shall split the profits 60/40 your way. This way I'm at no risk and neither is my money plus your confident you can make 20% per month, hence you have nothing to lose.

GET MY DRIFT?
SwissManagement
forex_trader_150670
Mitglied seit Sep 12, 2013   110 Posts
Nov 26, 2013 at 14:50
felotus posted:
SwissManagement posted:
We are a team on forex since 8 years. We can manage your funds from 100$. We have hotforex pamm account.
We use stop loss and hedging to avoid big drawdown.

You can earn 10% average each month. Try us and you will see we are serious. We have an office in Geneva in Switzerland.
If you have any question, ask us.

Regards
What's the name of your company? We're a fund based in Geneva and the regulator would never let you advertise online like this.

You're a scam.

And 10% a month is everything but serious, just like 'hedging' in the fx market.

No serious professional will let you open a 100$ account, why would you? Actually, I have never seen a good account manager who opens anything below 100k$. No offence.

We work with Pictet in Geneva.
So please be careful when you use this word 'scam' or i will kick your ass for diffamation :)
Mitglied seit Sep 11, 2012   53 Posts
Nov 26, 2013 at 16:01
I highly doubt Pictet takes 100$ account.
I work in a hedge fund.
Mitglied seit Sep 11, 2012   53 Posts
Nov 26, 2013 at 16:19
And still the FINMA doesn't allow advertising online for funds or asset management.
I work in a hedge fund.
Mitglied seit Aug 30, 2013   325 Posts
Nov 26, 2013 at 20:55
Did you mean defamation? What's a diffamation?
Mitglied seit Dec 07, 2012   22 Posts
Nov 26, 2013 at 22:01
forexpipcatcha posted:
That depends on the country you're in. If you run a PAMM account without a license you are liable for many things. Just because certain brokers take no responsibility and allow fools to ruin some investors accounts doesn't mean that's the correct thing to do.
In your case you are at no risk what's so ever even if you blow the investors account. i.e no insurance company will insure me against loss, theft or damages because you fail to pertain a PAMM managers license. But this is the reason why you didn't take out a $2mill loan or more and trade it for yourself instead you want to gamble with other peoples money and if you happen to make them profits you chose to split the difference. But if you lose their money like that fool Ramin then you accept no responsibility and the broker wipes their hands of any wrong doing!

I'll tell you what though...i'll make you a deal ... since you're very sure of making profits and sustaining it I want you to take out a loan for $500k and trade it for me and we shall split the profits 60/40 your way. This way I'm at no risk and neither is my money plus your confident you can make 20% per month, hence you have nothing to lose.

GET MY DRIFT?

 We aren't confident that we can earn 20% a month. It is actually something we have done consistently. Your pessimistic attitude has been noted. Feel free to join our PAMM anytime you like. I am utterly certain that we will out preform your system.
Mitglied seit Sep 11, 2012   53 Posts
Nov 26, 2013 at 22:05
Damned, you've consistently generated 20% a month?

I'm wondering what all those hedge funds, traders, portfolio managers, scientists, quants, mathematicians, physicists and astrophysicists are missing in their big companies with their large budget.

Also, why do you even take investors money ? I mean get a 100k loan, you double your account every 3 months ...
I work in a hedge fund.
SwissManagement
forex_trader_150670
Mitglied seit Sep 12, 2013   110 Posts
Nov 26, 2013 at 22:08
@felotus , We have big account and it's opportunity for retailer to have managed account with us. It's just a promotion and in test...
Normally we accept investor with 20 000$ minimum. But we want to try with small investors.

If you have any questions ask us.
Regards
Mitglied seit Sep 11, 2012   53 Posts
Nov 26, 2013 at 22:51
20k$ is already small investors and now you're telling me you're a swiss hedge fund taking 100$ account, that you can't give us a name, isin or anything and that you may work with pictet in geneva ?

good luck with that
I work in a hedge fund.
Mitglied seit Dec 07, 2012   22 Posts
Nov 27, 2013 at 03:57
felotus posted:
Damned, you've consistently generated 20% a month?

I'm wondering what all those hedge funds, traders, portfolio managers, scientists, quants, mathematicians, physicists and astrophysicists are missing in their big companies with their large budget.

Also, why do you even take investors money ? I mean get a 100k loan, you double your account every 3 months ...

  We take investors money for the very same reason banks do so. To create a name brand. When you provide a service, and succeed as we are doing the notaraity is much more important then the profit you are actually making.
Mitglied seit Aug 30, 2013   325 Posts
Nov 27, 2013 at 05:20
mechie posted:
forexpipcatcha posted:
That depends on the country you're in. If you run a PAMM account without a license you are liable for many things. Just because certain brokers take no responsibility and allow fools to ruin some investors accounts doesn't mean that's the correct thing to do.
In your case you are at no risk what's so ever even if you blow the investors account. i.e no insurance company will insure me against loss, theft or damages because you fail to pertain a PAMM managers license. But this is the reason why you didn't take out a $2mill loan or more and trade it for yourself instead you want to gamble with other peoples money and if you happen to make them profits you chose to split the difference. But if you lose their money like that fool Ramin then you accept no responsibility and the broker wipes their hands of any wrong doing!

I'll tell you what though...i'll make you a deal ... since you're very sure of making profits and sustaining it I want you to take out a loan for $500k and trade it for me and we shall split the profits 60/40 your way. This way I'm at no risk and neither is my money plus your confident you can make 20% per month, hence you have nothing to lose.

GET MY DRIFT?

 We aren't confident that we can earn 20% a month. It is actually something we have done consistently. Your pessimistic attitude has been noted. Feel free to join our PAMM anytime you like. I am utterly certain that we will out preform your system.

I doubt you and your systems results can come anywhere near my system ...not the one you see here which is only testing someone system but the one you can't see. What you are is another desperate fish looking for bait and hence your existence here is because large investors don't want anything to do with your system. You know why and so do I
Mitglied seit Sep 13, 2012   20 Posts
Nov 27, 2013 at 09:44
I would never put my money in someone elses hands. Learn how to trade and make your won decissions, thats what i can advise from own experience. Always stay in control over your money!
Mitglied seit Aug 30, 2013   325 Posts
Nov 27, 2013 at 10:49
Stevo0610 posted:
I would never put my money in someone elses hands. Learn how to trade and make your won decissions, thats what i can advise from own experience. Always stay in control over your money!

Fully agree with you lol
Mitglied seit Dec 07, 2012   22 Posts
Nov 27, 2013 at 11:24
Stevo0610 posted:
I would never put my money in someone elses hands. Learn how to trade and make your won decissions, thats what i can advise from own experience. Always stay in control over your money!
Very good advice. Yet the reality is many individuals lack the ability or experience to not 'margin call'. Which is why they ask for help like professionals as myself. I simply want to be judged on the stats which I present. As those are things which can be discussed. 20% is 20% a month no matter how larger or small your account is. As money management will determine the amount of money you shall risk.
Mitglied seit Mar 13, 2013   166 Posts
Nov 27, 2013 at 14:52
Hello everyone,
I read all your comments for 2 days. I think you everyone trying to pull the blanket for himself, which is normal. I think a PAMM account is dangerous because you're on an account where there are more expert plugged above, so no mastery. For we have against the management of client accounts with a single expert, the customer to hand over his money just withdraw it when he wishes provided that warn us to temporarily disable the expert. Notice to amateur.
Here is the link of an account as an attachment
if you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact me


Regards
Hiroo59

Anhänge:

SwissManagement
forex_trader_150670
Mitglied seit Sep 12, 2013   110 Posts
Nov 27, 2013 at 14:52
@felotus
Tu ne comprends donc pas ce que j'essaye de t'expliquer. Nous travaillons en partenariat avec Pictet. Nous sous traitons de la gérance de portefeuille pour eux.
Nous ne fermons aucune porte. Jusqu'à présent nous ne prenions en gérance que des portefeuilles de 20 000$ au minimum.
Depuis peu nous essayons de nous diversifier et de toucher des investisseurs particuliers.

Quel est le but ? D'augmenter notre liquidité. Qui dit plus de liquidité dit moins de prise de risque pour un même profit.
De plus notre société est en plein essor et nous recherchons constamment des investisseurs.

Nos résultats montreront que vous vous tromper sur nous.

Cordialement
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