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sPhantom Auto Trader (bei sPhantom)
| Gewinn : | +694.0% |
| Drawdown | 91.94% |
| Pips: | 1266.4 |
| Trades | 261 |
| Gewonnen: |
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| Verloren: |
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| Typ: | Real |
| Hebel: | 1:400 |
| Trading: | Automatisiert |
sPhantom Auto Trader Diskussion
Jul 25, 2013 at 12:29
As with EA FxHelm. Vendor: It's not the same EA. Finally he confessed.
http://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/fxhelm-expert-advisor/530882,2#?pt=2&p=1&o=530882
PS: sPhantom is not EA only copier signal!!! (as fxhelm and fxpapa)
http://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/fxhelm-expert-advisor/530882,2#?pt=2&p=1&o=530882
PS: sPhantom is not EA only copier signal!!! (as fxhelm and fxpapa)
Mitglied seit Jul 29, 2012
6 Posts
Jul 25, 2013 at 18:52
Apart from every other consideration, what I see browsing the few trades visible brings me a question on "trade dynamics".
Let me try to explain.
When the system catches the trend he takes 10 pips = +3% and closes.
When ìt's wrong at first he tries a second trade (in the same direction) to average a lower profit, like 5 pips more or less
So all is VERY good if it's right at first or at the second try.
But I see stop loss is 250 pips which would mean a loss around 75% of total equity.
I'm curious to know from developer (or see in live account) what happens if it misses try 1 and 2. Which is an eventuality I don't feel like ignoring... not everyday is Christmas.
Probably the loss will be cut before stop loss but I would like to hear from developer.
Forgive me if my description above is too "sketchy" and feel free to refine it.
Thanks
Let me try to explain.
When the system catches the trend he takes 10 pips = +3% and closes.
When ìt's wrong at first he tries a second trade (in the same direction) to average a lower profit, like 5 pips more or less
So all is VERY good if it's right at first or at the second try.
But I see stop loss is 250 pips which would mean a loss around 75% of total equity.
I'm curious to know from developer (or see in live account) what happens if it misses try 1 and 2. Which is an eventuality I don't feel like ignoring... not everyday is Christmas.
Probably the loss will be cut before stop loss but I would like to hear from developer.
Forgive me if my description above is too "sketchy" and feel free to refine it.
Thanks
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Jul 26, 2013 at 08:47
ler0y_br0wn posted:
Apart from every other consideration, what I see browsing the few trades visible brings me a question on "trade dynamics".
Let me try to explain.
When the system catches the trend he takes 10 pips = +3% and closes.
When ìt's wrong at first he tries a second trade (in the same direction) to average a lower profit, like 5 pips more or less
So all is VERY good if it's right at first or at the second try.
But I see stop loss is 250 pips which would mean a loss around 75% of total equity.
I'm curious to know from developer (or see in live account) what happens if it misses try 1 and 2. Which is an eventuality I don't feel like ignoring... not everyday is Christmas.
Probably the loss will be cut before stop loss but I would like to hear from developer.
Forgive me if my description above is too "sketchy" and feel free to refine it.
Thanks
Dear Simone
Thanks for your question. This EA uses emergency stop loss. It's 250 pips from the first position. The EA may close both positions before SL point.
We are working on the EA to decrease SL level.
Regards
Jul 26, 2013 at 21:47
sPhantom posted:gwilym posted:
is it a signal copier or EA
Hi
sPhantom is an Expert Advisor which receives the entry points from our server. This makes us sure all clients would have the same result as us.
Regards
FxPapa discussion:
rv73 posted:
FxPapa, I notice the instructions are to place the EA on a single H1 EURUSD chart.
I also just noticed it took a GBPUSD trade, so it is in fact a trade copier. Correct ?
Can you tell us what pairs it trades ? Any more than just EURUSD and GBPUSD ?
FxPapa posted:
Hi
The EA trades EURUSD and GBPUSD but as instruction says you should attach the EA only to EURUSD H1 chart.
The EA receives the signals from our server but mange them itself.
Regards
62 pages. Read carefully:
http://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/fxpapa-expert-advisor/211025,1#?pt=2&p=6&o=211025
Jul 26, 2013 at 22:57
sPhantom posted:
Hi Jarora
Continue your good job and advertise your EAs. I'm sure everybody know what I mean. Your site "bestforexea..."
You are a mendacious and I'm sure you won't have any success in this market.
Good Luck :)
This page presents several vendors and their EAs. You were there too. Large loosing -250 pips and pages were removed.
Mitglied seit Dec 08, 2010
139 Posts
Jul 27, 2013 at 07:31
Jarora posted:sPhantom posted:gwilym posted:
is it a signal copier or EA
Hi
sPhantom is an Expert Advisor which receives the entry points from our server. This makes us sure all clients would have the same result as us.
Regards
then it is as a matter of fact a signal copier
Courage is not the absence of fear,but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear
Mitglied seit May 04, 2012
1534 Posts
Jul 28, 2013 at 02:45
Another GRID strategy with pretty unfavorable R/R ratio. Unfortunately all of them end up with occasional HUGE drawdowns - sooner or later.
Just a few RECENT examples (the ones which have not been stopped; YET):
Kangaroo: http://www.myfxbook.com/members/TulipFX/kangaroo/68427
FxTest: http://www.myfxbook.com/members/fxcall/fxtest-eurusd-ea-real/577260
If you look at the above performances, you see the future of this one, too. So now you know...
Just a few RECENT examples (the ones which have not been stopped; YET):
Kangaroo: http://www.myfxbook.com/members/TulipFX/kangaroo/68427
FxTest: http://www.myfxbook.com/members/fxcall/fxtest-eurusd-ea-real/577260
If you look at the above performances, you see the future of this one, too. So now you know...
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Mitglied seit Jul 29, 2012
6 Posts
Jul 29, 2013 at 07:16
sPhantom posted:
Dear Simone
Thanks for your question. This EA uses emergency stop loss. It's 250 pips from the first position. The EA may close both positions before SL point.
We are working on the EA to decrease SL level.
Regards
Thanks for reply but, very openly, I will stay at the window and see what happens for some time.
As it receives signals from a server it cannot be backtested thoroughly and the "recovery form double miss" is foggy to me.
Simone
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Aug 05, 2013 at 09:32
I purchased this EA , too. I followed almost every trade it made within the last 10 weeks. I let it run on a real account.
I still wonder about all this rumble here. I can see that this EA trades very good.
1. 47 trades in 10 weeks with only 6 loosing trades is not bad.
2. Almost triple up the balance from 100 to 293 USD in this short period is amazing.
3. The largest profit trade is higher than largest loss trade.
4. The average profit per trade is a little higher than the average loss.
5. And finally the profit factor of over 7 speaks for this EA.
When you are afraid of this risky stop-loss of 250 pips, then asked the sPhantom team kindly to provide you with a customized EA. I did so, and a day later I got a customized EA . After replacing this and restarting of my MT4 it seems to work well.
I can now adjust the stop-loss to to the level I want.
Very good and quick service.
I will keep you updated
Many Happy Trades
Jay
I still wonder about all this rumble here. I can see that this EA trades very good.
1. 47 trades in 10 weeks with only 6 loosing trades is not bad.
2. Almost triple up the balance from 100 to 293 USD in this short period is amazing.
3. The largest profit trade is higher than largest loss trade.
4. The average profit per trade is a little higher than the average loss.
5. And finally the profit factor of over 7 speaks for this EA.
When you are afraid of this risky stop-loss of 250 pips, then asked the sPhantom team kindly to provide you with a customized EA. I did so, and a day later I got a customized EA . After replacing this and restarting of my MT4 it seems to work well.
I can now adjust the stop-loss to to the level I want.
Very good and quick service.
I will keep you updated
Many Happy Trades
Jay
Mitglied seit Aug 07, 2013
12 Posts
Aug 07, 2013 at 15:48
Hi,
I am waiting for response to my emails, I would like to see the latest reports for http://sphantom.com/sPhantom%20Results/StrategyTester.htm as its not up to 2013 August.
Thanks
I am waiting for response to my emails, I would like to see the latest reports for http://sphantom.com/sPhantom%20Results/StrategyTester.htm as its not up to 2013 August.
Thanks
Aug 07, 2013 at 16:02
(bearbeitet Aug 07, 2013 at 16:05)
Inequivalent posted:
Hi,
I am waiting for response to my emails, I would like to see the latest reports for http://sphantom.com/sPhantom%20Results/StrategyTester.htm as its not up to 2013 August.
Thanks
Hi
From 2013.05.21 we started our forward test. You can see the details using below link:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/sPhantom/sphantom-auto-trader/585390
You can also see the back test result from 2012.01.01 to 2013.05.14 using below link:
http://sphantom.com/sPhantom%20Results/StrategyTester.htm
Because there is forward test since May then there is no need for back test from that period.
Regards
Benton
www.sPhantom.com
Aug 10, 2013 at 12:48
Oksenboel posted:
I purchased this EA , too. I followed almost every trade it made within the last 10 weeks. I let it run on a real account.
I still wonder about all this rumble here. I can see that this EA trades very good.
1. 47 trades in 10 weeks with only 6 loosing trades is not bad.
2. Almost triple up the balance from 100 to 293 USD in this short period is amazing.
3. The largest profit trade is higher than largest loss trade.
4. The average profit per trade is a little higher than the average loss.
5. And finally the profit factor of over 7 speaks for this EA.
When you are afraid of this risky stop-loss of 250 pips, then asked the sPhantom team kindly to provide you with a customized EA. I did so, and a day later I got a customized EA . After replacing this and restarting of my MT4 it seems to work well.
I can now adjust the stop-loss to to the level I want.
Very good and quick service.
I will keep you updated
Many Happy Trades
Jay
[What is the S/L you set after you receive your customized EA ?,anyway thanks for your info]
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Mitglied seit Dec 07, 2009
134 Posts
Aug 17, 2013 at 15:05
It would be nice to see the vendor put more than $100 in a real account. That is not much confidence when he is asking us to put $300 in his pocket for a copy of this EA with no refund offered.
Be afraid, very afraid?
Mitglied seit Aug 12, 2013
21 Posts
Aug 18, 2013 at 06:23
robotchallenge posted:
It would be nice to see the vendor put more than $100 in a real account. That is not much confidence when he is asking us to put $300 in his pocket for a copy of this EA with no refund offered.
hehe,we should respect the EA researcher for their work. They must work month by month for a test version . And then they run real account test years by years for a EA republishing. Nobody can run the real test for hundreds years or forever for a sell start. So ,our wanting to win in market guys, Your buy is blindness always, or you buy it after hundreds years later.
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Aug 18, 2013 at 12:00
feifeiyu7247 posted:
hehe,we should respect the EA researcher for their work. They must work month by month for a test version . And then they run real account test years by years for a EA republishing. Nobody can run the real test for hundreds years or forever for a sell start. So ,our wanting to win in market guys, Your buy is blindness always, or you buy it after hundreds years later.
I smell a marketer here. 😈
Past experience usually helps present self
