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makeitrain

Member Since Apr 24, 2014  212 posts VIP (makeitrain) Jun 22 2014 at 10:36
Professionals trade with low leverage low return, investment security comes first, end of. Retail Amateurs and mid range traders leverage and strive for returns. I wonder who is right...cool

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nadanadya

Member Since Sep 19, 2012  19 posts nadanadya Jun 22 2014 at 12:19
KayS posted:
mdnetworkfx posted:
Sawood121 posted:
If one can make 15 % /month on a $1000 investment, can he make 15% if he/she is trading with a investment of $100000?

my answer is no.
1000usd and 100000usd are different amount and different risk. to trade 1000usd is easy.... but to trade 100000usd... our feeling is not same as 1000usd...


Says who? The rich guy or the poor guy? :)


I explained everything from what I do
anyone can agree with me, anyone can disagree with me
no more comments frm me about this topic
I am a full time trader, my time is very valuble,
Thank you for all

KayS

Member Since Feb 12, 2012  63 posts k4y (KayS) Jun 22 2014 at 12:25 (edited Jun 22 2014 at 12:28 )
makeitrain posted:
Professionals trade with low leverage low return, investment security comes first, end of. Retail Amateurs and mid range traders leverage and strive for returns. I wonder who is right...cool


Your monthly return does not necessarily depend on your amount of risk. It depends on the overall quality of your strategy, your skill level and on many factors like quality of your signals (win-probability), frequency of trades, optimal placement of stops etc.

You can have low risk per trade and high investment security and still achieve relatively high returns.

Unfortunately most people have a wrong way of thinking and tend to restrict themselfes in their abilities and in what they are able to achieve.
I believe, that is why we got the famous 99% poor folks versus only 1% super rich in the world.

The OP's question whether 15% / month is too much for a 100k account is a stupid question actually and any simple answer 'yes' or 'no' is stupid as well, if no further information is given about the skills of the trader and the profitability of his strategy.

KayS

Member Since Feb 12, 2012  63 posts k4y (KayS) Jun 22 2014 at 12:33
nadanadya posted:
KayS posted:
mdnetworkfx posted:
Sawood121 posted:
If one can make 15 % /month on a $1000 investment, can he make 15% if he/she is trading with a investment of $100000?

my answer is no.
1000usd and 100000usd are different amount and different risk. to trade 1000usd is easy.... but to trade 100000usd... our feeling is not same as 1000usd...


Says who? The rich guy or the poor guy? :)


I explained everything from what I do
anyone can agree with me, anyone can disagree with me
no more comments frm me about this topic
I am a full time trader, my time is very valuble,
Thank you for all


nadanadya, my dear, I don't disagree with you at all! It seems we have a quite similar philosophy :)
Probably quoted a wrong post?

EvsU2

Member Since Jun 21, 2014  3 posts EvsU2 Jun 22 2014 at 14:49
KayS posted:
makeitrain posted:
Professionals trade with low leverage low return, investment security comes first, end of. Retail Amateurs and mid range traders leverage and strive for returns. I wonder who is right...cool


Your monthly return does not necessarily depend on your amount of risk. It depends on the overall quality of your strategy, your skill level and on many factors like quality of your signals (win-probability), frequency of trades, optimal placement of stops etc.

You can have low risk per trade and high investment security and still achieve relatively high returns.

Unfortunately most people have a wrong way of thinking and tend to restrict themselfes in their abilities and in what they are able to achieve.
I believe, that is why we got the famous 99% poor folks versus only 1% super rich in the world.

The OP's question whether 15% / month is too much for a 100k account is a stupid question actually and any simple answer 'yes' or 'no' is stupid as well, if no further information is given about the skills of the trader and the profitability of his strategy.
'Your monthly return does not necessarily depend on your amount of risk. It depends on the overall quality of your strategy, your skill level and on many factors like quality of your signals (win-probability), frequency of trades, optimal placement of stops etc'. I'm strongly agreed may your absolutely right cool

makeitrain

Member Since Apr 24, 2014  212 posts VIP (makeitrain) Jun 22 2014 at 17:28
nadanadya posted:
KayS posted:
mdnetworkfx posted:
Sawood121 posted:
If one can make 15 % /month on a $1000 investment, can he make 15% if he/she is trading with a investment of $100000?

my answer is no.
1000usd and 100000usd are different amount and different risk. to trade 1000usd is easy.... but to trade 100000usd... our feeling is not same as 1000usd...


Says who? The rich guy or the poor guy? :)


I explained everything from what I do
anyone can agree with me, anyone can disagree with me
no more comments frm me about this topic
I am a full time trader, my time is very valuble,
Thank you for all


Market is closed surprise

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myfxpt

Member Since Aug 06, 2011  345 posts Gary Sharp myfxpt com (myfxpt) Jul 13 2014 at 00:27

My answer is : yes
because it is percentage of risk used according to different factors considered by the trader, regardless the capital of the account. But I consider the balance 100000 K should make at least 25 % to 45 % a month with safe strategy. In other words 15 % a month from balance of 100000 K, you can make it easily .
Cheers


Absolutely agree! 15% is 15% regardless of capital. But...the big difference between a $1,000 and $100,000 account is our emotions...that's the killer! cool

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Sawood121

Member Since Jun 02, 2014  6 posts Sawood S (Sawood121) Jul 13 2014 at 13:09
damn i wish i was a robot with no emotions while trading.

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myfxpt

Member Since Aug 06, 2011  345 posts Gary Sharp myfxpt com (myfxpt) Jul 13 2014 at 22:52
Sawood121 posted:
damn i wish i was a robot with no emotions while trading.


If only! That's why money management is so important...perhaps more important than market analysis! Good money management and a poor strategy can be profitable, but a good strategy with poor money management will ultimately fail. Why? Because good money management gives you specifics on which to act, which eliminates indecision, and goes a very long way to removing the emotions that prompt us to move our stops, take profits way too soon, and jump into some trades that, in hindsight, make absolutely no sense at all. cool

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togr

Member Since Feb 22, 2011  3695 posts vontogr (togr) Jul 14 2014 at 07:56
Sawood121 posted:
If one can make 15 % /month on a $1000 investment, can he make 15% if he/she is trading with a investment of $100000?


Of course,

it would work even better as large investors has better conditions than us.
On the other hand the psychological aspect of possibility to loose 100k could influence the trader
So it is better to use EA or someone you trust.

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