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ForexMark

Member Since Dec 24, 2010  153 posts Mark Larsen (ForexMark) Dec 12 2017 at 10:50
Hi Jim,

First of all we are really sorry that we didn't satisfy your needs in this matter. I can assure you that we always do all for our clients to make them happy with their purchase and we are always stay honest with any of our traders. We really provide good and profitable service and we have low refund rates only because of our profitable trading results and our work with clients. We use payment systems and this is very difficult to work with them for vendors because of commissions and other but it much more comfortable and reliable for users. Only because of that we not use other scam payment methods what will be ok for fraud vendors who just take money and hide with them. We really care about our users and do our best to make them happy.

The second thing is that you posted here a lot of messages of your conversation with support but by the some reason you forgot to post our last message to you:

'from: GPS Forex Robot <support@gpsforexrobot.com>
to: **************************

Hello Dear Jim,

Since you are not interested in our last suggestion now your refund is completely processed. Please wait 3-5 business days to see it on your bank account.

In any case we wish you all the best and hope to see you again soon!

Let all your trades be profitable ones!

Thank you for your message!

Please don't hesitate contacting us with any further questions. We are always here for you!

Best regards,
GPS Forex Robot Team
https://gpsforexrobot.com/'

Concerning your many messages. You should understand that we have huge number of emails every day and we work like ticket system with threads. In this case the more emails you will send the higher your thread will be in the list. So this is mean that you will get your answer later. As we said other companies answer during only 72 hours not include weekends and some users waiting for a reply during three days but we do our best to answer on all messages during 24 hours. So you should just send your message and wait 12-24 hours and you will get faster reply. Thank you for your understanding. By the way you got detailed answers on all your questions with all necessary information and explanations.

But in any case we absolutely don't want to fight and we sincerely wish you all the best with your future trading and hope to see you again in our money making family!

Best regards,
Mark

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RoboFX123

Member Since Aug 01, 2017  58 posts RoboFX123 Dec 12 2017 at 14:00
It is interesting. When the backtest is turned off it should be published on the site. Otherwise you buy only 50%. Next, it's interesting to see FX Choice accounts clients is burned but the vendor accounts they have no problem. Perhaps this is a very good deal with this EAs

ForexMark

Member Since Dec 24, 2010  153 posts Mark Larsen (ForexMark) Dec 12 2017 at 15:25 (edited Dec 12 2017 at 15:41 )
RoboFX123 posted:
It is interesting. When the backtest is turned off it should be published on the site. Otherwise you buy only 50%. Next, it's interesting to see FX Choice accounts clients is burned but the vendor accounts they have no problem. Perhaps this is a very good deal with this EAs


Hello,

It was published and not one time, moreover some clients already confirmed it in this thread. You just read not attentively. Concerning your other guess here is answer which was posted earlier:

ForexMark posted:
Hello,

BenScoobert posted:
Then why not withdraw and secure some of your $370k of profit?

We fixed our profit and closed several accounts with other brokerages like FXCM, FXDD (while they not closed it), Alpari UK and others but with the FxChoice it's not only our money. Big part of it it's money of our investors and we don't decide here anything we just get our % from the current GPS Robot earnings and all of it is based on our agreement with them. It's really difficult to attract investors and provide them some confidence but now we responsible for our trading results. By the way in this thread some user asked to make a withdrawal and we provided link to his message to our investors and they agreed and we made $100 withdrawal. It was not necessary of course and investors shouldn't do that but in any case they agreed and it was good.

rob559 posted:
would you show us some other brokerage accts from clients?

Here on the MyFxBook we provided completely verified results with FXCBS, FxPro and Alpari brokerages during few years and on several forums were discussions of this accounts but now we closed some of our accounts and moved (gradually) our money to FxChoice accounts because after major upgrade we were impressed with the results which we got.

Concerning other messages... There is nothing to discuss. Every time users try to find something... and even talking about photos. You suggest to make a visit to another conference only to make photos? Guys this is not serious. Anyone of you can just open account at least with $100 and use it like we will explain to you without any mistakes like some users did, I mean huge lotsize value and other and after one-two month you will get almost the same results. After that we will explain to you how you can increase your profits because with the default settings GPS Robot makes not many trades but it's necessary to start slowly and increase profits and number of trades gradually.


Moreover I can add that in this year we closed 7 years account with IamFX which was also completely verified. But IamFX brokerage was closed and because of that we were forced to close our account with them too.

Best regards,
Mark

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EAgreat

Member Since Oct 16, 2011  56 posts EAgreat Dec 12 2017 at 18:06
Rafael posted:

I read it very carefully and can say that you have very strange reaction on good vendors help to you. I use gps during long time and I


@Rafael
Dear Rafael,
I appreciate your feedback as a GPS user with several licenses. May I ask if you are willing to share your account statements, biggest DD, if your accounts have ever encountered a losing recovery position and how long did it take you to recuperate?
As for my feelings about GPS EA, please refer to my reply to Mark.
Thank you.
Jim

EAgreat

Member Since Oct 16, 2011  56 posts EAgreat Dec 12 2017 at 19:11
ForexMark posted:
Hi Jim,

First of all we are really sorry that we didn't satisfy your needs in this matter. I can assure you that we always do all for our clients to


@Mark
Dear Mark,
1. It was a pity you lost a customer and I wasted quite some time.
2. May I comment that you are a superb salesman but you have more to learn about customer psychology?
3. When I decided to buy your EA, I was full of passion and could not wait to apply it to my real account. Sadly, my passion met with such indifference, it was like a red hot cheek touched an ice cold hip. Yes, I immediately started your EA on demo accounts and found out your EA did not trade often but when it traded it won. I also noticed from your example account that you used recovery position that is usually much bigger in size than the base position size. I wondered what would happen when the recovery position loses, how long and how many trades it would take to recuperate, what was the largest DD to expect, and what is the initial balance my real account must have to avoid margin call when the worst scenario hits. All these questions could be addressed by backtesting. Yet you absolutely refused to turn on your EA backtest ability despite so many of my email requests, quoting one reason after: a. Yes, forwarding test is more accurate but it takes a long time and with your EA trading frequency I may never encounter a losing recovery position in two months or two years; b. you emphasized the smartness of your team and algorithms can avoid all pits, that was claiming supernatural power that only God has, I quoted you more than one account that used your EA and met the losing recovery position, ... you described your EA as automated yet your team decisions are so crucial in avoiding the losing recovery position. Don't you think you have in a way confused customers?
4. Hope this will help your business when you see them: a. you may have huge numbers of customers but every new customer comes to you fresh, with eagerness to use your EA and excuses like having customers just did not make delaying reply after more than ten emails look better; b. ClickBetter allows you to change from refund request to support request, it really did not help for you to keep changing refund request to support request when we were still communicating and there was not a solution yet.
5. If I were you, I would give everybody the ability to backtest your EA and when they come to you with their results, that is the time for you to stress the godly power of your team's brains to avoid the results.
6. Rafael commented that I showed strange reaction, I must be a first time EA buyer, etc. On the contrary, I have bought my share of EAs and I have a lot of respect for EA creators. I think they are geniuses and I am willing to pay for their wisdom. Further, I am willing to share my good experiences with the Forex community because I believe one good turn deserves another: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/EAgreat/funnel-trader-v4221/2344847
Thank you.
Jim

EAgreat

Member Since Oct 16, 2011  56 posts EAgreat Dec 12 2017 at 19:17
RoboFX123 posted:
It is interesting. When the backtest is turned off it should be published on the site. Otherwise you buy only 50%. Next, it's interesting to see FX Choice accounts clients is burned but the vendor accounts they have no problem. Perhaps this is a very good deal with this EAs


Dear RoboFX123,

Agree with you.

Best,

Jim

lele2759

Member Since Dec 12, 2017  4 posts lele2759 Dec 13 2017 at 09:42
Hello, I'm testing gps in ICMarkets demo account, I want to know if this EA works with this broker.
Thanks
Gabriele

lele2759

Member Since Dec 12, 2017  4 posts lele2759 Dec 13 2017 at 09:43
I can't open an account with fxchoice because it's impossibile for Italy

RyanSchultz

Member Since Mar 04, 2010  13 posts Ryan Schultz (RyanSchultz) Dec 13 2017 at 11:33
I read full log and really dissapointed.

Aren't you ashamed of yourself? You have full explanation several times about your question to get understand all logic of working of this trading system. It is obvious that it is impossible to make a backtest if the system is orientied on the fundamental factors. And at the same time you asking and asking. Do you understand this?

I am rather surprized how lot of patience is required for tech support to explain the stupid questions to every user. I think it is hard work and even if it so tech support really competently explained you all points.

The developers doing a charity work but you at the same time think only for yourself and your money without any reasons on it. It is bad... I am advise you to see on this from other side...

As for the system... I trade with GPS already long time. It trades smoothly but I am impressed how stable it works.

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ForexMark

Member Since Dec 24, 2010  153 posts Mark Larsen (ForexMark) Dec 13 2017 at 13:38
Hello,

EAgreat posted:
ForexMark posted:
Hi Jim,

First of all we are really sorry that we didn't satisfy your needs in this matter. I can assure you that we always do all for our clients to


@Mark
Dear Mark,


>It was a pity you lost a customer and I wasted quite some time.
Yes, I'm sorry about that too because we have huge number of customers and almost all of them happy to use GPS Robot for their trading.

>May I comment that you are a superb salesman but you have more to learn about customer psychology?
We have thousands of clients and at the first time during not one decade of my work I get such advice from customer. But in any case I'm happy to listen any suggestion if it can help us improve our robot and make our service even better.

>my passion met with such indifference
I'm sorry Jim but this is completely not true. You got answer on all questions and all answers was detailed with all necessary information. If somebody here will think that this is can be true so look at the comments of other users about GPS Robot support. You even meet here users who said to you that you got more than good answers with all explanations. I completely disagree with you.

>your EA did not trade often but when it traded it won, with your EA trading frequency
It was also explained to you that you use default settings and we recommend use it during some time to see that all works correctly and after that we can suggest several trading plans with different profits and many other useful things. We also provided to you statement for EU pair where GPS Robot makes trades absolutely every day and with every trade GPS Robot generates much more profits.

>All these questions could be addressed by backtesting
Dear Jim, I have experience during already more than 20 years. I was on huge number of conferences and I tested hundreds eas and wrote hundreds reviews, I made huge number of forwartests and I can say to you with all respect that backtests it's just one more thing for marketing. You can see backtests during 10 or 20 years but this is useless information because no one of such eas will not show you stable results during such long term. Even if you will use dukascopy ticks or other services, even if you will got in your tester 99% mq and other number it will never show you real results. ONLY forwardtests, ONLY real money accounts, ONLY longterm results. We have a lot of big investores and I can open a secret for you. If in the future you will be a successful trader you will have big feelings to study and growing up. For this you will have one main goal and it's investors. When you will be near in the room, near big screen with presentation even not try to say something about backtests or anything like that. No one self-respecting investor, not to mention large investors, will not even 10 seconds listen to you and your suggestions. What will happen next? They silently get up and leave and you will remain in the room completely alone with all your backtests, ideas and other resources that you so counted on. ONLY forwardtests, ONLY real money accounts, ONLY longterm results. That's all. No one self-respecting developer will not even listen to you without long term forwardtests and this is not my opinion, this is not opinion of our team, - this is reality of the current world.

>All these questions could be addressed by backtesting.
You still not understand anything. You already got replies from other traders that it was explained several times but you again and again asking the same. Our trading pool it's not just simple guys who seat near pc and think about what trade can be opened and what not. It's big difficult system where analytics make decision about any parameter to provide the best results. All what you wrote about it is completely untrue like you said above that you 'met with such indifference'. Moreover please read meaning of word automated. In simple words it's when user not doing anything. He just download GPS Robot, set it on his account and see how robot generates profit for him.

>you emphasized the smartness of your team and algorithms can avoid all pits, that was claiming supernatural power that only God has
Thank you but please use your sarcasm with your friends but not with us. As you remember we always were kind and polite with you. Moreover we suggested to you many good bonuses and we did all to stay in good relationships with you despite on your soulless answers.

>delaying reply
You should understand that ticket support system it's not the chatroom or something like that. You send sometimes 4 messages during few hours and after that you say that our answers were with delay and in every of your email you said 'This is my third request for help', fourth, fifth and so on. But in any case all your threads were answered and we even said to you that we are sorry that we not send it very fast like in the chat. Concerning tickets maybe it was by the mistake or some misunderstanding but after our reply you also replied there and after that changed it to support and very quickly changed back. In any case all what we answered it's only to try to help you with any problem by doing our best.

>I have a lot of respect for EA creators. I think they are geniuses and I am willing to pay for their wisdom
Thank you very much for your kind words. We really appreciate it. I will forward your words to entire GPS Robot team.

>I am willing to share
I appreciate your efforts but I see there statement during one single week. Ths is absolutely useless information. I will be more than happy to check it at least after one year (but it will be more better to wait 5 years) and compare it with this successful real money trading account on which GPS Robot generate profit already during 5 years:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ForexMark/gps-robot-fxchoice-100k/396026

In the end I want to say that you can have your opinion on any matter but I will have my own opinion and it's not necessary to swear and find out the relationship because of that. Therefore, on this very kind note, I suggest to finish this conversation. As I said, in any case we absolutely don't want to fight and we sincerely wish you all the best with your future trading and hope to see you again in our money making family!

lele2759 posted:
Hello, I'm testing gps in ICMarkets demo account, I want to know if this EA works with this broker.
Thanks
Gabriele


Dear Gabriele, we already have sent you an answer. Please check your email.

Best regards,
Mark

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