Forex Growth Bot

Gain : +2644.71%
Drawdown 94.46%
Pips: 8075.5
Transactions 2881
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Type: Réel
Levier: 1:200
Trading: Automatisé

Discussion Forex Growth Bot

Dec 20, 2010 at 23:46
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Membre depuis Oct 01, 2010   posts 27
Jun 04, 2011 at 10:01

Pakfx posted:
    can you please share us in details what setting with what EA you are using ?

Actually I only tried to catch the trends earlier with 9,69,1.7 and I don´t use Swiss Army for trailing, because FGB trails good enough...I use Swiss Army only to set a safety SL to 50 pips in order to be double sure, that my account is save.
Membre depuis Oct 01, 2010   posts 27
Jun 04, 2011 at 10:05
id===== Identity Settings ====
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Time_Minute=55
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MaxProfit_Dollar=0
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manage===== Stop Management ====
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ExpertName=Swiss Army EA
Disable_Comments=1
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sep==============================
author=Programming: Ryan Klefas
contact=Email: [email protected]
web=Website: www.forex-tsd.com
Membre depuis Mar 31, 2010   posts 79
Jun 04, 2011 at 13:40
ralle,

nice results with 9, 69, 1.7... congrat :)
would you make 5 years backtest with both settings please
so we could see if this setting works in the long run
you can make backtest much faster if you choose 'open price only' because fgb opens and closes trades after candle close on eu M15 chart so you don't need to test on 'every tick'
thx
forex_trader_12567
Membre depuis May 29, 2010   posts 276
Jun 04, 2011 at 15:25

ralle posted:
    
aryaforex posted:
    
ralle posted:
    ...anyway...FGB is one of the best ones actually...maybe we can improve it a little bit with 'ManualTradeControl=true' and a second trade-manager-EA like Swiss Army, if we are not able to sit in front of the screen all day long ;-))

oh, a little bit closer then my wish EA. this EA won't open a trade, only modify the existing trades.. still searching free EA that can order the opposite way each time FGB make any order. would any one ever know this EA?

wait, at ver1.51, there is setting to open the hedge, curious the mechanism. if it open opposite way after FGB order, it should be 2 winning trades, first from swiss army, second from FGB :)

If an EA needs hedging or martingale, then the trading-logic sucks...the entries of FGB are a bit late sometimes - but they are good - they catches the trend mostly. It´s not easy to find settings, witch catch the trend earlier. As I mentioned before, I use 9,69,1.7 actually. Here are two screenshots - one of mine settings and one of the default ones:


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i hate seeing the DD Bro.. sorry
Membre depuis Oct 01, 2010   posts 27
Jun 04, 2011 at 18:12 (édité Jun 04, 2011 at 18:30)

sliffy posted:
    ralle,

nice results with 9, 69, 1.7... congrat :)
would you make 5 years backtest with both settings please
so we could see if this setting works in the long run
you can make backtest much faster if you choose 'open price only' because fgb opens and closes trades after candle close on eu M15 chart so you don't need to test on 'every tick'
thx


OK...but I have only good tickdata for 3 years...as a conclusion...9/69/1.7 generates more or less 20 % more profit with slightly more drawdown and less, precicer trades...of course the DD depends on the lotsize...anyway it´s quite an alternative setting, if the default ones are in an unlucky period ;-))
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Fichiers joints:

Membre depuis Jul 21, 2010   posts 119
Jun 04, 2011 at 18:39

ralle posted:
    
sliffy posted:
    ralle,

nice results with 9, 69, 1.7... congrat :)
would you make 5 years backtest with both settings please
so we could see if this setting works in the long run
you can make backtest much faster if you choose 'open price only' because fgb opens and closes trades after candle close on eu M15 chart so you don't need to test on 'every tick'
thx


OK...but I have only good tickdata for 3 years...as a conclusion...9/69/1.7 generates more or less 20 % more profit with slightly more drawdown and less, precicer trades...of course the DD depends on the lotsize...anyway it´s quite an alternative setting, if the default ones are in an unlucky period ;-))


I did a backtes from 2004 with both settings

With default settings:
Maximal drawdown 911.14 (8.53%)
With your settings
Maximal drawdown 1569.30 (15.52%)

As you can see, with your settings the maximal drawdown is almost doubled...

As I said they are good settings (give more profit) but they are more aggressive than default.

You can see it from the equity line:
DEFAULT SETTINGS
<a href='' target='_blank'><img src=''/></a>

YOUR SETTINGS
<a href='' target='_blank'><img src=''/></a>

Fichiers joints:

Membre depuis Apr 13, 2011   posts 3
Jun 04, 2011 at 18:59
Hi ,
  I see an offer to copy this FGB trades on our account for a monthly fees. Does any one already taking this service and any comments on this please ?thx
Membre depuis Mar 31, 2010   posts 79
Jun 04, 2011 at 20:15
thx ralle,
profit would be much bigger with reinvesting capital
for backtesting you should have the power version

Membre depuis Oct 01, 2010   posts 27
Jun 04, 2011 at 21:00

PeterParker posted:
    Hi ,
  I see an offer to copy this FGB trades on our account for a monthly fees. Does any one already taking this service and any comments on this please ?thx

Hi Peter...to my mind it´s unfair to the developer...honour his work...FGB is worth every penny ! !
Membre depuis Oct 01, 2010   posts 27
Jun 04, 2011 at 21:24 (édité Jun 04, 2011 at 21:37)

I did a backtes from 2004 with both settings

With default settings:
Maximal drawdown 911.14 (8.53%)
With your settings
Maximal drawdown 1569.30 (15.52%)

As you can see, with your settings the maximal drawdown is almost doubled...

As I said they are good settings (give more profit) but they are more aggressive than default.

You can see it from the equity line:
DEFAULT SETTINGS
<a href='' target='_blank'><img src=''/></a>

YOUR SETTINGS
<a href='' target='_blank'><img src=''/></a>
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Thanks Dave...what I can see is, that there is an unspectacular period from 2005 to 2008 with nearly no gain ... especially with default settings...any thoughts why ?

I think this is a good proof that EA´s always need to be improved according to the current behavior of the currencies...
Membre depuis Jul 21, 2010   posts 119
Jun 04, 2011 at 22:22
nothing is perfect, anyway settings with this flat curve from 2006 to 2008 save your account from a bigger drawdown.
Ex with default settings max drawdown with 0.1 lots is 911 euro

with 9-69-1.7 settings is 1569.

So.... if you run the ea with 2000 eur and 0.1 lot with default settings the max drawdown is 50%, with 9-69-1.7 settings it's about 76%, very very closed to the margin call....
Membre depuis Oct 01, 2010   posts 27
Jun 05, 2011 at 00:25 (édité Jun 05, 2011 at 00:28)

prototipo posted:
    nothing is perfect, anyway settings with this flat curve from 2006 to 2008 save your account from a bigger drawdown.
Ex with default settings max drawdown with 0.1 lots is 911 euro

with 9-69-1.7 settings is 1569.

So.... if you run the ea with 2000 eur and 0.1 lot with default settings the max drawdown is 50%, with 9-69-1.7 settings it's about 76%, very very closed to the margin call....

Backtest depend on broker and datafeed...as you already know...my 3-year BT on AAAFx (ok - not the best broker) look like :

9/69/1.7_____0.10 lots_____1421 DD
DEFAULT_____0.10 lots_____1290 DD

So not a BIG difference there.

To avoid a margin call, risk only max. 2 % per trade.
If we set a SL=50 pips and have 1000 USD equity, one single trade should only burn 2% of 1000 = 20 USD.
If we have a mini account starting with 0.01 lot (1 pip = 10 cent) we can trade therefore with 0.04 lots (1 pip = 40 cent)
50pip SL x 0.04lots = 20 USD

Even if many SL happen in a row...your account is not in danger ;-))

Membre depuis May 14, 2011   posts 26
Jun 05, 2011 at 03:54 (édité Jun 05, 2011 at 03:55)

ralle posted:
    
prototipo posted:
    nothing is perfect, anyway settings with this flat curve from 2006 to 2008 save your account from a bigger drawdown.
Ex with default settings max drawdown with 0.1 lots is 911 euro

with 9-69-1.7 settings is 1569.

So.... if you run the ea with 2000 eur and 0.1 lot with default settings the max drawdown is 50%, with 9-69-1.7 settings it's about 76%, very very closed to the margin call....

Backtest depend on broker and datafeed...as you already know...my 3-year BT on AAAFx (ok - not the best broker) look like :

9/69/1.7_____0.10 lots_____1421 DD
DEFAULT_____0.10 lots_____1290 DD

So not a BIG difference there.

To avoid a margin call, risk only max. 2 % per trade.
If we set a SL=50 pips and have 1000 USD equity, one single trade should only burn 2% of 1000 = 20 USD.
If we have a mini account starting with 0.01 lot (1 pip = 10 cent) we can trade therefore with 0.04 lots (1 pip = 40 cent)
50pip SL x 0.04lots = 20 USD

Even if many SL happen in a row...your account is not in danger ;-))



Hi Ralle , can i know what version you use ? basic ? advance ? power ? version 1.5 ?
Membre depuis Mar 31, 2010   posts 79
Jun 05, 2011 at 05:46

ralle posted:
    
PeterParker posted:
    Hi ,
  I see an offer to copy this FGB trades on our account for a monthly fees. Does any one already taking this service and any comments on this please ?thx

Hi Peter...to my mind it´s unfair to the developer...honour his work...FGB is worth every penny ! !

i guess Peter talks about the developer's copy trade service...
Membre depuis Oct 01, 2010   posts 27
Jun 05, 2011 at 06:52

kkl927 posted:
    
Hi Ralle , can i know what version you use ? basic ? advance ? power ? version 1.5 ?

basic
Membre depuis Oct 01, 2010   posts 27
Jun 05, 2011 at 07:10

sliffy posted:
    
ralle posted:
    
PeterParker posted:
    Hi ,
  I see an offer to copy this FGB trades on our account for a monthly fees. Does any one already taking this service and any comments on this please ?thx

Hi Peter...to my mind it´s unfair to the developer...honour his work...FGB is worth every penny ! !

i guess Peter talks about the developer's copy trade service...

Sorry Peter...misunderstanding...
forex_trader_35857
Membre depuis May 06, 2011   posts 4
Jun 05, 2011 at 14:29
Hi Ralle,

How do set a Stop Loss of 50 with Basic FGB?
Membre depuis Jul 21, 2010   posts 119
Jun 05, 2011 at 15:10
with an external trade protector
forex_trader_12567
Membre depuis May 29, 2010   posts 276
Jun 05, 2011 at 15:23

fxeiffel posted:
    Hi Ralle,

How do set a Stop Loss of 50 with Basic FGB?

ralle uses swiss army EA (www.forex-tsd.com/expert-advisors-metatrader-4/7552-swiss-army-ea-automatic-order-management.html)
Membre depuis Apr 15, 2011   posts 97
Jun 05, 2011 at 22:53 (édité Jun 05, 2011 at 22:54)
Anyone with the signal service (not fgb 1.5 basic power, or advanced) still riding out the positions that are were open Friday evening? The signal service has been reflecting the trades on here with the exception of last week. So I was curious if the signal service needs are restart on my end or not.
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