MFM5 (By ex4systems)
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Member Since Mar 31, 2014
192 posts
Member Since Mar 31, 2014
192 posts
Jul 08, 2015 at 15:45
Member Since Mar 31, 2014
192 posts
i hope so... I think it opens too many pairs at once. And god help us if all of them go south. Is there any way that this EA opens trades not just based on a pre-set Buy or Sell ? ( It will choose the best position based on the chart).
ben@
Jul 09, 2015 at 06:22
Member Since Feb 10, 2014
16 posts
I emailed the Author about this 2 years ago - the buy side only algo is flawed - not because the idea itself is flawed but because he fails to properly understand some of the correlations. This essentially leaves with you an EA that can potentially be VERY dangerous.
The system essentially buys Risk at the Sydney open knowing that price tends to range during the Asian session and ranges are limited - this is called night scalping. Problem is, only USD exposure is via USDJPY & USDCHF - which is fine when the USD is rising of it's own accord - gains in these pairs will offset any losses in the risk pairs...
BUT have a look at the pairs the system trades: xxxJPY xxxCHF xxxUSD...
It is always SHORT the safe haven/funding currencies. What happens when we see a move away from risky assets/risk aversion? The safe havens appreciate and all the currencies this system buys depreciate. All of them you say? Yes! In genuine risk aversion USDJPY tends to fall. Less clear cut with USDCHF but same will happen if the Frank is in higher demand as a safe haven than the Dollar.
BUT it's not as bad as it sounds ie has to be full blown risk aversion NOT just USD strength and said fear needs to take place during hours the system trades. Still - this does happen - once every few months it seems and what's really worrying is we haven't actually seen a full flown flight to safety yet (USDJPY broke channel support overnight but is still supported, S&P is testing Support).
BUT (Round 3) This program still makes money it seems and is still in the green and more importantly, the equity curve is still carving higher lows and highs (only just on the last high). This is the true test - does this uptrend in the equity curve hold or collapse?
Could be wrong but I swear all this program needs is some buy side exposure to safe havens (short risk).
The system essentially buys Risk at the Sydney open knowing that price tends to range during the Asian session and ranges are limited - this is called night scalping. Problem is, only USD exposure is via USDJPY & USDCHF - which is fine when the USD is rising of it's own accord - gains in these pairs will offset any losses in the risk pairs...
BUT have a look at the pairs the system trades: xxxJPY xxxCHF xxxUSD...
It is always SHORT the safe haven/funding currencies. What happens when we see a move away from risky assets/risk aversion? The safe havens appreciate and all the currencies this system buys depreciate. All of them you say? Yes! In genuine risk aversion USDJPY tends to fall. Less clear cut with USDCHF but same will happen if the Frank is in higher demand as a safe haven than the Dollar.
BUT it's not as bad as it sounds ie has to be full blown risk aversion NOT just USD strength and said fear needs to take place during hours the system trades. Still - this does happen - once every few months it seems and what's really worrying is we haven't actually seen a full flown flight to safety yet (USDJPY broke channel support overnight but is still supported, S&P is testing Support).
BUT (Round 3) This program still makes money it seems and is still in the green and more importantly, the equity curve is still carving higher lows and highs (only just on the last high). This is the true test - does this uptrend in the equity curve hold or collapse?
Could be wrong but I swear all this program needs is some buy side exposure to safe havens (short risk).
Member Since Mar 31, 2014
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Member Since Jul 02, 2015
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Jul 09, 2015 at 15:12
Member Since Jul 02, 2015
5 posts
I would like to request someone who experienced the 20%+ loss the other day to please describe the trade or trades that contributed the most to the loss.
I checked my "practice" account and I do not see any such loss on the indicated days, and so I wonder why I was spared.
I see these trades in my account for past few days:
2015.07.09 00:55 GBPJPY trade for +0.3%
2015.07.09 00:07 USDCHF trade for +0.3%
2015.07.08 00:15 GBPJPY trade for -0.5%
2015.07.06 00:15 EURJPY trade for +5.0%
2015.07.06 00:15 USDJPY trade for +2.7%
I think my timestamps are UTC+2
Those are ALL the trades I have in my account for this week. As you can see - it has been a PLUS week for me, and that's why I ask which pair created the losses for those accounts experiencing a loss this week?
I checked my "practice" account and I do not see any such loss on the indicated days, and so I wonder why I was spared.
I see these trades in my account for past few days:
2015.07.09 00:55 GBPJPY trade for +0.3%
2015.07.09 00:07 USDCHF trade for +0.3%
2015.07.08 00:15 GBPJPY trade for -0.5%
2015.07.06 00:15 EURJPY trade for +5.0%
2015.07.06 00:15 USDJPY trade for +2.7%
I think my timestamps are UTC+2
Those are ALL the trades I have in my account for this week. As you can see - it has been a PLUS week for me, and that's why I ask which pair created the losses for those accounts experiencing a loss this week?
Member Since Mar 31, 2014
192 posts
Jul 09, 2015 at 17:13
Member Since Mar 31, 2014
192 posts
csgibson88 posted:
I would like to request someone who experienced the 20%+ loss the other day to please describe the trade or trades that contributed the most to the loss.
I checked my "practice" account and I do not see any such loss on the indicated days, and so I wonder why I was spared.
I see these trades in my account for past few days:
2015.07.09 00:55 GBPJPY trade for +0.3%
2015.07.09 00:07 USDCHF trade for +0.3%
2015.07.08 00:15 GBPJPY trade for -0.5%
2015.07.06 00:15 EURJPY trade for +5.0%
2015.07.06 00:15 USDJPY trade for +2.7%
I think my timestamps are UTC+2
Those are ALL the trades I have in my account for this week. As you can see - it has been a PLUS week for me, and that's why I ask which pair created the losses for those accounts experiencing a loss this week?
my trades are very similar to the vendors account.And it was a big loss .
ben@
Member Since Jul 02, 2015
5 posts
Jul 10, 2015 at 08:30
Member Since Jul 02, 2015
5 posts
Oh yeah - one more VERY IMPORTANT question.
Which version of MFM are you running. I guess the NEW version (MFM5) was slated to "Go Live" this week.
I am still running the prior version, MFM4 Build 507
I will test the MFM5 version within the next few weeks or so.
Which version of MFM are you running. I guess the NEW version (MFM5) was slated to "Go Live" this week.
I am still running the prior version, MFM4 Build 507
I will test the MFM5 version within the next few weeks or so.
Member Since Jul 02, 2015
5 posts
Jul 23, 2015 at 01:14
Member Since Feb 22, 2015
82 posts
I am tired to wait better performance of this EA, one day win and then lose even more and we are going to nowhere....Also, the vendor turn off the system without warning, today no trades here but I had losers trades with many against pips, this chart does not reflect our reality, it is unreliable for me.
Member Since May 20, 2011
694 posts
Aug 25, 2015 at 21:20
Member Since Jan 13, 2015
10 posts
It would be better that the authors assume that this EA is completely wrong, and be honest disseminating the Daily trades. Several orders closing negative, not respecting SL also guarantee with often large capital losses. This EA sucks
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