MFM5 (By ex4systems)

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MFM5 Discussion

Jun 29, 2015 at 17:23
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Member Since Mar 31, 2014   192 posts
Jul 08, 2015 at 07:42
I lost %22.... I cant believe this...
ben@
Member Since Sep 03, 2014   11 posts
Jul 08, 2015 at 15:41
you're lucky... I lost moorreeeeeee :(
It should recover, but it will take a while.
Member Since Mar 31, 2014   192 posts
Jul 08, 2015 at 15:45
i hope so... I think it opens too many pairs at once. And god help us if all of them go south. Is there any way that this EA opens trades not just based on a pre-set Buy or Sell ? ( It will choose the best position based on the chart).
ben@
Member Since Feb 10, 2014   16 posts
Jul 09, 2015 at 06:22
I emailed the Author about this 2 years ago - the buy side only algo is flawed - not because the idea itself is flawed but because he fails to properly understand some of the correlations. This essentially leaves with you an EA that can potentially be VERY dangerous.

The system essentially buys Risk at the Sydney open knowing that price tends to range during the Asian session and ranges are limited - this is called night scalping. Problem is, only USD exposure is via USDJPY & USDCHF - which is fine when the USD is rising of it's own accord - gains in these pairs will offset any losses in the risk pairs...

BUT have a look at the pairs the system trades: xxxJPY xxxCHF xxxUSD...

It is always SHORT the safe haven/funding currencies. What happens when we see a move away from risky assets/risk aversion? The safe havens appreciate and all the currencies this system buys depreciate. All of them you say? Yes! In genuine risk aversion USDJPY tends to fall. Less clear cut with USDCHF but same will happen if the Frank is in higher demand as a safe haven than the Dollar.

BUT it's not as bad as it sounds ie has to be full blown risk aversion NOT just USD strength and said fear needs to take place during hours the system trades. Still - this does happen - once every few months it seems and what's really worrying is we haven't actually seen a full flown flight to safety yet (USDJPY broke channel support overnight but is still supported, S&P is testing Support).

BUT (Round 3) This program still makes money it seems and is still in the green and more importantly, the equity curve is still carving higher lows and highs (only just on the last high). This is the true test - does this uptrend in the equity curve hold or collapse?

Could be wrong but I swear all this program needs is some buy side exposure to safe havens (short risk).
Member Since Feb 10, 2014   16 posts
Jul 09, 2015 at 06:25
PS You all shouldn't be so surprised - this drop was relatively less aggressive than the last!
Member Since Mar 31, 2014   192 posts
Jul 09, 2015 at 06:50
i think, this EA has a very good potential to go higher. I think if vendor can focus on both sell and buy or infarct a recovery system. This can be limited to those pairs that had a loss.
ben@
Member Since Jul 02, 2015   5 posts
Jul 09, 2015 at 15:12
I would like to request someone who experienced the 20%+ loss the other day to please describe the trade or trades that contributed the most to the loss.
I checked my 'practice' account and I do not see any such loss on the indicated days, and so I wonder why I was spared.
I see these trades in my account for past few days:
2015.07.09 00:55 GBPJPY trade for +0.3%
2015.07.09 00:07 USDCHF trade for +0.3%
2015.07.08 00:15 GBPJPY trade for -0.5%
2015.07.06 00:15 EURJPY trade for +5.0%
2015.07.06 00:15 USDJPY trade for +2.7%

I think my timestamps are UTC+2

Those are ALL the trades I have in my account for this week. As you can see - it has been a PLUS week for me, and that's why I ask which pair created the losses for those accounts experiencing a loss this week?

Member Since Mar 31, 2014   192 posts
Jul 09, 2015 at 17:13
csgibson88 posted:
I would like to request someone who experienced the 20%+ loss the other day to please describe the trade or trades that contributed the most to the loss.
I checked my 'practice' account and I do not see any such loss on the indicated days, and so I wonder why I was spared.
I see these trades in my account for past few days:
2015.07.09 00:55 GBPJPY trade for +0.3%
2015.07.09 00:07 USDCHF trade for +0.3%
2015.07.08 00:15 GBPJPY trade for -0.5%
2015.07.06 00:15 EURJPY trade for +5.0%
2015.07.06 00:15 USDJPY trade for +2.7%

I think my timestamps are UTC+2

Those are ALL the trades I have in my account for this week. As you can see - it has been a PLUS week for me, and that's why I ask which pair created the losses for those accounts experiencing a loss this week?


my trades are very similar to the vendors account.And it was a big loss .
ben@
Member Since Sep 03, 2014   11 posts
Jul 10, 2015 at 00:08
Hi Gibson, I think it is because your broker mightn't have a tight spread after role over, so your trades get filtered out.

On average, I would usually have between 7 and 15 trades a day.
Member Since Jul 02, 2015   5 posts
Jul 10, 2015 at 08:30
Oh yeah - one more VERY IMPORTANT question.

Which version of MFM are you running. I guess the NEW version (MFM5) was slated to 'Go Live' this week.

I am still running the prior version, MFM4 Build 507

I will test the MFM5 version within the next few weeks or so.
Member Since Jul 02, 2015   5 posts
Jul 10, 2015 at 08:32
I just noticed that I an *not* running the EA on EURAUD, CADJPY and GPBNZD.
Was it the GBPNZD pair that tanked and created the large losses earlier this week??
Member Since Feb 10, 2014   16 posts
Jul 10, 2015 at 08:42
Yeah that seems like quite a small amount of trades for a few days... old mfm3 would open at least 5 every morning
Member Since Jun 22, 2015   15 posts
Jul 22, 2015 at 06:50
It's sucks. You bought a EA to automated trade and didn't work.
Member Since Feb 22, 2015   82 posts
Jul 23, 2015 at 01:14
I am tired to wait better performance of this EA, one day win and then lose even more and we are going to nowhere....Also, the vendor turn off the system without warning, today no trades here but I had losers trades with many against pips, this chart does not reflect our reality, it is unreliable for me.
Member Since May 20, 2011   724 posts
Jul 23, 2015 at 07:12
yes, he needs to develop this so never needs updates can backtest pairs for long time and see the actual results!
Member Since Sep 22, 2014   176 posts
Aug 24, 2015 at 04:00
Hi, ex4systems,
In your account GBPCHF and CADCHF trades are closed in profit whereas in my account both trades are active with floating loss! what is the problem with EA? Please advise.
Be Vegan, Make Peace
Member Since Jan 13, 2015   10 posts
Aug 25, 2015 at 21:20
It would be better that the authors assume that this EA is completely wrong, and be honest disseminating the Daily trades. Several orders closing negative, not respecting SL also guarantee with often large capital losses. This EA sucks
A simple humble guy around this life
Member Since Oct 09, 2012   3 posts
Dec 10, 2015 at 11:20
Hi, I bought MFM5 today, I setup it my 1 real, 2 demo account, but does not work and does not make trade. I work on LCG and OCTAFX brokers.
Member Since Jan 13, 2015   10 posts
Dec 10, 2015 at 11:46
The version of the moment (Oct / Nov 2015) has shown consistent and profitable results. Congratulations to the authors for the upgrade and profit that MFM5 is providing
A simple humble guy around this life
Member Since Jan 13, 2015   10 posts
Dec 10, 2015 at 11:47
Ebino, call MFM5 support. That guys are 'flash'
A simple humble guy around this life
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