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May 20, 2011 at 02:45
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Biedrs kopš   588 ieraksti
Mar 05, 2012 at 12:31
you have to activate the FIFO option ONLY if your account is constrainted by the FIFO rule. which is applied to US resident. The FIFO is not a good option for EA's users. So we dislike this option.
but US resident suffer this issue, not the other peoples.
also some brokers accept US resident but didn't apply the FIFO rule.

I Think IBFX AUS didn't apply the FIFO rule even for US resident (not sure)
well... check your account type and then disable the FIFO option is the best option.
Biedrs kopš   29 ieraksti
Mar 05, 2012 at 12:59
@willgart people from the US are not allowed to register at IBFX AU.
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Biedrs kopš   12 ieraksti
Mar 05, 2012 at 13:27
thanks guys. it hs no more error but at times flashes high spread. no trade yet. have set max order 4 addl chann 2 max lot 1 risk 3. is thr smthn i need to change here
Biedrs kopš   117 ieraksti
Mar 05, 2012 at 14:25
@ sachinsyd: FIFO=false for IBFX(AU or not), AutoApplyECN=false, but leave UseStopOrders, Hardstoptrailing to true.
Spread warnings are ok, it will still trade.

One small loss trade for me at IBFX, but others there have no trade. That's not uncommon for MDP ...
Fred
Biedrs kopš   270 ieraksti
Mar 05, 2012 at 15:39
I have also 2 orders in loss...
Biedrs kopš   795 ieraksti
Mar 05, 2012 at 19:29
I set up all my group members with fifo on. It seems to work best. Im from the USA and many members are not, but I still have fifo on for all accounts.
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Biedrs kopš   117 ieraksti
Mar 05, 2012 at 22:10
Hey Garry,
do you mean that it makes a difference for trading results and produces more profit? - I haven't tested fifo=true, but can not imagine why it should make a difference considering the trading-style of MDP.
Fred
Biedrs kopš   40 ieraksti
Mar 05, 2012 at 23:38

   Professor53 posted:
   I set up all my group members with fifo on. It seems to work best. Im from the USA and many members are not, but I still have fifo on for all accounts.
I am using IBFX US and have fifo off and hard trailing stop true. I read in another forum that US Brokers automatically enforce fifo rules so we dont have to worry about which trade to close first. In the post I am referring to the author made the case that everything you add for the ea to do simply slows down the speed of the ea. The forex police have not come after me yet. :)
Biedrs kopš   12 ieraksti
Mar 06, 2012 at 21:16
Hi Fred

It didnt trade once in past 30 hours at ibfx(au) so I moved to another well known broker with lower spreads. but the error now is that the stop order level is greater than 0.00030. Do u think it is ok to have 0.00050?

Thanks
Sachin
Biedrs kopš   588 ieraksti
Mar 06, 2012 at 21:20
check the demo account. there is no trade for few days. which is normal.
wait for 1 or 2 weeks to see results.

is it an error or just a warning?
0.0005 is a little high.
Biedrs kopš   29 ieraksti
Mar 06, 2012 at 21:47
@sachinsyd stop order level with 5 pips is not suitable for MDP. Stay with IBFX AU or search for another broker. And be a little more patient, it's normal that MDP doesn't trade for a few days, it will trade accordingly with IBFX AU, just wait.
To become old and wise you have to be young and stupid first.
Biedrs kopš   795 ieraksti
Mar 07, 2012 at 06:13

   Fred_Forex posted:
   Hey Garry,
do you mean that it makes a difference for trading results and produces more profit? - I haven't tested fifo=true, but can not imagine why it should make a difference considering the trading-style of MDP.
Fred

Since I had no option in FIFO on,Being from the USA, My chart reflexs that setting on my VPS setup and the new members wanted the same set up.

Garry
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Biedrs kopš   117 ieraksti
Mar 07, 2012 at 10:03 (labots Mar 07, 2012 at 10:31)
- Eddie is right with his post, I agree it will not work with a stop level of 5 full pips.

- I thought IBFX handles FIFO internally for the US, not in MT4. See the statement on this page (lower part): https://www.ibfx.com/Platform/Free-Forex-Demo-Account But the statement is rather cryptic, someone would have to try it out or to ask them directly to be sure, I guess. But I think either setting is ok.

It is possible that MDP only trades again on Friday, hopefully to our success!
Cheers
Fred
Add: I forgot ECB rate decision and press conference today, this could make MDP wake up, too 😀
Mar 07, 2012 at 10:39
There is no ECB today. There is ADP Unemp from US. In rare case it can provoke a trade from MDP
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Biedrs kopš   117 ieraksti
Mar 07, 2012 at 11:07
Oh, I have been mistaken, ECB is Thursday. I am already ahead in time 😳
Biedrs kopš   51 ieraksti
Mar 07, 2012 at 12:06

   Professor53 posted:
   I set up all my group members with fifo on. It seems to work best. Im from the USA and many members are not, but I still have fifo on for all accounts.

So the Hardstop is set to false, right? Or do you have both FIFO and Hardstop on TRUE?
Biedrs kopš   117 ieraksti
Mar 07, 2012 at 14:58 (labots Mar 07, 2012 at 15:05)
These settings are not connected. I always advise to leave Hardstoptrailing on true.
Fred
Biedrs kopš   51 ieraksti
Mar 07, 2012 at 15:05 (labots Mar 07, 2012 at 15:13)
Oh, they are. At least in 1.16 if I set FIFO true, then Hardstop is set to disabled. Maybe 1.2 is different?

Late edit: I just checked version 1.2 on another account and also, if I set FIFO:true, then Hard_Stop_trailing automatically switches to false.

Can you confirm?
Biedrs kopš   117 ieraksti
Mar 07, 2012 at 15:45
There is nothing in the manual about it and I have always used FIFO=false. But I think you are right and found out an important thing!

One can see the difference in trading here:
Professor53 account with FIFO=true as he told us:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Professor53/prof53-mdp-lawrence-nyc/163841
- no exit by S/L in profit

compared to Dan's account using FIFO=false (see his post yesterday) and obviously with Hardstoptrailing=true at the same broker:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/tradinfool/dan-mdp/148717
- MDP exiting trades with S/L in profit

So, what to learn from it?
I still think that Hardstroptrailing=true gives better results, so one should avoid brokers that enforce FIFO in MT4. But obviously FIFO=false (and therefore also Hardstoptrailing) can be used even with US IBFX, as Dan stated yesterday.
Cheers
Fred
Biedrs kopš   588 ieraksti
Mar 07, 2012 at 15:50
hardstoptrailing is also an important security feature.
if there is any connection issue, the SL well save the trade.

imagine you start going in the right direction and you loose the connection to the broker.
if the SL was moved then the trade will be stopped in profit.
if you do not have the SL moved before the disconnect, you can loose a lot!

also this option helps the trade when the connection is slow or if the broker is slow to execute your commands. the SL is managed on the server side and this reduce the latency to close the trade. so again, this will helps MDP closing with (maybe) better profit or less losses.
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