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Million Dollar Pips讨论
会员从Apr 08, 2011开始
148帖子
Oct 25, 2011 at 13:52
pc8: Sure; I believe it, because there are like 1000 brokers out there. Can anyone help with the STOP order problem?
Oct 25, 2011 at 15:18
Hi everybody
I am coming with a new look on MDP trading, gains, losses, liquidity etc.
In my opinion technical things like exec time, avg open time and so called "broker liquidity" and "market liquidity" are NOT important and have small influence on MDP results.
I have followed MDP and market trades daily since 3 months and came out to the following conclusion:
1. MDP results depend on how big is a market player (Financial institution) who created a move (spike).
2. Generally, there are 2 groups of market players who are able to create a significant market move:
a) large size players (funds, premium banks etc). These guys typically place huge orders that last for long time. Let me explain on example. Let's say EUR/USD is 1.38900. They need to buy large amount of EUR and place order. Spike is created, MDP turns on. But, as this buyer STILL need to buy, he increases his order, spike goes up again, there is no move back and we all loose. We will always loose, if such a market player needs to fulfill his order. Doesn't matter how is your exec time, bla bla, they simpy keep on buying and we must loose.
b) medium size players, who place smaller orders and have no more purchase power to increase the order. And this is our win situation. Market quickly makes the reverse move and we gain.
So, these are the reasons I do believe sometimes we gain, and sometimes loose. Technical issues (VPS, exec times, broker's policy) have negligible importance.
I am coming with a new look on MDP trading, gains, losses, liquidity etc.
In my opinion technical things like exec time, avg open time and so called "broker liquidity" and "market liquidity" are NOT important and have small influence on MDP results.
I have followed MDP and market trades daily since 3 months and came out to the following conclusion:
1. MDP results depend on how big is a market player (Financial institution) who created a move (spike).
2. Generally, there are 2 groups of market players who are able to create a significant market move:
a) large size players (funds, premium banks etc). These guys typically place huge orders that last for long time. Let me explain on example. Let's say EUR/USD is 1.38900. They need to buy large amount of EUR and place order. Spike is created, MDP turns on. But, as this buyer STILL need to buy, he increases his order, spike goes up again, there is no move back and we all loose. We will always loose, if such a market player needs to fulfill his order. Doesn't matter how is your exec time, bla bla, they simpy keep on buying and we must loose.
b) medium size players, who place smaller orders and have no more purchase power to increase the order. And this is our win situation. Market quickly makes the reverse move and we gain.
So, these are the reasons I do believe sometimes we gain, and sometimes loose. Technical issues (VPS, exec times, broker's policy) have negligible importance.
会员从Sep 04, 2009开始
849帖子
Oct 25, 2011 at 15:30
I couldnt agree less..
I doesnt matter who causes a spike in the price, big or small dog. By the nature of mdp it needs lightning fast execution, otherwise you lose, no matter what..
I doesnt matter who causes a spike in the price, big or small dog. By the nature of mdp it needs lightning fast execution, otherwise you lose, no matter what..
Oct 25, 2011 at 15:34
lobotomy8 posted:
Hi everybody
I am coming with a new look on MDP trading, gains, losses, liquidity etc.
In my opinion technical things like exec time, avg open time and so called "broker liquidity" and "market liquidity" are NOT important and have small influence on MDP results.
I have followed MDP and market trades daily since 3 months and came out to the following conclusion:
1. MDP results depend on how big is a market player (Financial institution) who created a move (spike).
2. Generally, there are 2 groups of market players who are able to create a significant market move:
a) large size players (funds, premium banks etc). These guys typically place huge orders that last for long time. Let me explain on example. Let's say EUR/USD is 1.38900. They need to buy large amount of EUR and place order. Spike is created, MDP turns on. But, as this buyer STILL need to buy, he increases his order, spike goes up again, there is no move back and we all loose. We will always loose, if such a market player needs to fulfill his order. Doesn't matter how is your exec time, bla bla, they simpy keep on buying and we must loose.
b) medium size players, who place smaller orders and have no more purchase power to increase the order. And this is our win situation. Market quickly makes the reverse move and we gain.
So, these are the reasons I do believe sometimes we gain, and sometimes loose. Technical issues (VPS, exec times, broker's policy) have negligible importance.
How do you account for the difference between brokers? Some people win on the spike, while others lose on the same spike?
会员从Aug 16, 2010开始
450帖子
Oct 25, 2011 at 16:09
Results differs a lot by brokers on same settings. Just try and see yourself.
Was mich nicht umbringt, macht mich stärker.
会员从Apr 08, 2011开始
148帖子
Oct 25, 2011 at 16:11
Yea, they DO differ a lot, it really all depends on execution time. On all brokers I´ve tested the same rule applies: the best results come with the brokers that offer the fastest execution and the lowest slippage + spread. The slower ones with 1s+ exec times do fail on a regular base.
Oct 25, 2011 at 16:28
mistificator posted:
Results differs a lot by brokers on same settings. Just try and see yourself.
Yes, there's a lot of different. So far I hv tried in EUR/USD:
1) IBFX US/AU - "spread too high"
2) Think FX - Execution time too high, about 1500ms-2000ms
3) Alpari UK - Low execution time, low spread but withdraw fee is expensive, L15-18.
4) Alpari US - "Too many attempts rejected by broker"
5) FxPro - got commision.
I still trying other broker, all in demo acct 1st then live. Can consider ALpari UK, but withdraw fee is high! Guys pls share your broker with results....thanks!
forex_trader_7188
会员从Feb 15, 2010开始
14帖子
Oct 25, 2011 at 18:22
会员从Dec 15, 2010开始
784帖子
Oct 25, 2011 at 18:31
Hurray, so many good trades!
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会员从Apr 08, 2011开始
148帖子
Oct 25, 2011 at 19:00
Oh now William, the creator of MDP is selling a membership for 79$ a month at http://www.milliondollarpips.com/membership.html !!! Promising to list working brokers for the members + special updates. Wow, I already dropped him an email, telling him that as a buyer of his EA, this membership should be FREE and not 79$ (!) / month, as well I asked him if this means I don´t get updates anymore even though I´ve paid for the EA and free updates were promised when buying it.
I really find that kind of very bad style to charge customers that already paid for this EA to gain the information that they need to make the EA work. They should get this for free in my opinion as this is just what good support means.
I really find that kind of very bad style to charge customers that already paid for this EA to gain the information that they need to make the EA work. They should get this for free in my opinion as this is just what good support means.
Oct 25, 2011 at 19:01
geektrader posted:
Yea, they DO differ a lot, it really all depends on execution time. On all brokers I´ve tested the same rule applies: the best results come with the brokers that offer the fastest execution and the lowest slippage + spread. The slower ones with 1s+ exec times do fail on a regular base.
I DO disagree. They doesn;t differ too much. One wins 80 pips, another one wins 65. But nobody looses.
My exec time is instantly over 2s and I got 61% gain in Sept and 21% gain in Oct so far.
All depends on the market move. If the BIG player trades, we;ve got a problem, if a medium-size player trades, we gain
Oct 25, 2011 at 19:04
geektrader posted:
Oh now William, the creator of MDP is selling a membership for 79$ a month at http://www.milliondollarpips.com/membership.html !!! Promising to list working brokers for the members + special updates. Wow, I already dropped him an email, telling him that as a buyer of his EA, this membership should be FREE and not 79$ (!) / month, as well I asked him if this means I don´t get updates anymore even though I´ve paid for the EA and free updates were promised when buying it.
I really find that kind of very bad style to charge customers that already paid for this EA to gain the information that they need to make the EA work. They should get this for free in my opinion as this is just what good support means.
yeah, good point. I'll not send them an email too ;)
if they have tips, they should provide this to their customers for free. more money we get, more licenses we'll get from them.
会员从Sep 04, 2009开始
849帖子
Oct 25, 2011 at 19:07
geektrader posted:
Oh now William, the creator of MDP is selling a membership for 79$ a month at http://www.milliondollarpips.com/membership.html !!! Promising to list working brokers for the members + special updates. Wow, I already dropped him an email, telling him that as a buyer of his EA, this membership should be FREE and not 79$ (!) / month, as well I asked him if this means I don´t get updates anymore even though I´ve paid for the EA and free updates were promised when buying it.
I really find that kind of very bad style to charge customers that already paid for this EA to gain the information that they need to make the EA work. They should get this for free in my opinion as this is just what good support means.
You are absolutely right! This guy turns out to get fu(king greedy...nobody should sign up, bc we all paid already for the offered service when we bought the EA. Period.
