sPhantom Auto Trader讨论

that is what we call a scam ,like it or not fx papa or not

SPhantom: No updates, no news, no informations, no support, no refund= SCAM!

Avangate: Scrapseller!!

Connection up...
Performs as claimed... ie. makes trades.
I can't see the scam.

The software is sold, as is, with huge risk disclaimers.

This word 'scam'... It does not mean what you think it means...

Hi,
Lets make campaign in all forum to expose the scam stating that Avantgate and PayPal are Scam promoter and advise to refrain from making doing business with them. I have already sent e-mails to my 4000 contacts.

Regards,
Dhiraj

'Not connected to the sPhantom Server !' ... connection up ? Not from this side.... Yes I agree this is a total scam...

redliner posted:
Connection up...
Performs as claimed... ie. makes trades.
I can't see the scam.

The software is sold, as is, with huge risk disclaimers.

This word 'scam'... It does not mean what you think it means...

@redliner Ok, please, give us your definition of their behaviour! They are dealing in a professional way?

Pls. someone open a folder versus Avangate in Forexpeace Army. I have already opened 1 on Sphantom so i don't want to do the same also on Avangate (it will look that i claim too much). Pls. someone do it and inform us so that we can partecipate to the discussion also on FPA!

Hi,
Disclaimer is a common thing to get them free from litigation. The scammer do not refund and sell products by false information. It is implied purpose of product to make profit that is reason you and me are buying. If it does not meet implied purpose for what it is sold then its a scam!!
Regards,
Dhiraj

corre71 posted:

redliner posted:
Connection up...
Performs as claimed... ie. makes trades.
I can't see the scam.

The software is sold, as is, with huge risk disclaimers.

This word 'scam'... It does not mean what you think it means...

@redliner Ok, please, give us your definition of their behaviour! They are dealing in a professional way?

Lack of professionalism does not equal scam. It means a lack of professionalism....
Scam would be if they sold you the software, and their server did not exist, or was taken offline forever, and they made a run with your money.
Software that makes bad trades, and loses all your money, is not a scam. It's shit software that makes bad trades...

dhiraj posted:
Hi,
Disclaimer is a common thing to get them free from litigation. The scammer do not refund and sell products by false information. It is implied purpose of product to make profit that is reason you and me are buying. If it does not meet implied purpose for what it is sold then its a scam!!
Regards,
Dhiraj

Show, from their website, where they claim this this software is guaranteed to make you money?

Hi Guys, SHUT UP!!!! This is Forex Man!!! He very professional!! the website does not inform about refound, stop crying like a child, stop leveraging their funds.

I'm not complaining about the losses, I'm complaining about the service...
VERY PROFESSIONAL RAPHAEL ????? Not even an email saying the server is going down for 1 week ???? you are the one that is a child man... grow up....

embb posted:
I'm not complaining about the losses, I'm complaining about the service...
VERY PROFESSIONAL RAPHAEL ????? Not even an email saying the server is going down for 1 week ???? you are the one that is a child man... grow up....

when you purchased the EA you knew the risks! stop crying!!!!

redliner posted:

corre71 posted:

redliner posted:
Connection up...
Performs as claimed... ie. makes trades.
I can't see the scam.

The software is sold, as is, with huge risk disclaimers.

This word 'scam'... It does not mean what you think it means...

@redliner Ok, please, give us your definition of their behaviour! They are dealing in a professional way?

Lack of professionalism does not equal scam. It means a lack of professionalism....
Scam would be if they sold you the software, and their server did not exist, or was taken offline forever, and they made a run with your money.
Software that makes bad trades, and loses all your money, is not a scam. It's shit software that makes bad trades...

Ok, so ur defintion is that it' a shit software!

'He, very professional? '😀

corre71 posted:
'He, very professional? '😀

I bet that by the time of miss you called him Hero? or not? he has begun to recover!

corre71 posted:
Ok, so ur defintion is that it' a shit software!

Exactly... I havn't bought it yet, because I don't think it's good enough to pay $300 for.
But I'll keep an eye on it, to see how it does, when the market does a repeat of the last crash.
From what I've seen, I don't think it's great software, but then, I havn't seen any good software yet.

osssmoretti posted:

corre71 posted:
'He, very professional? '😀

I bet that by the time of miss you called him Hero? or not? he has begun to recover!

If you are running it i wish u good luck and all the best. I have never called noone hero! And 4 ur info i have suffered very limited losses on sphantom because of my risk settings, losses that i have already recovered with my othe EAs. So i can stay here very calm and quiet and to express my opinion that somome can agree wtih and others not! Anyway i wish u again all the best!

An email would have been nice, just letting us know what's going on. Or even better an area on their website where they can let us know what happening and where we could communicate with them.
Not letting us know is making our minds go wild and we will always think the worst.
I bought the ea 4 days before it crashed, so you can see how i feel.
But no reply to my eamils
And now it hasn't traded for 2 days just when they went offline then back on again.
Communication would make everyone feel a bit better.
but we shall see what will be what.