ctrader & MT4 & broker cheating .

Jun 07, 2016 at 13:51
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Member Since Aug 26, 2014   26 posts
Jun 07, 2016 at 13:51
I strongly believe most of brokers interfere in MT4 for their favor .
what do you guys think about ctrader ?
please compare MT4 & ctrader .
Member Since Feb 22, 2011   4862 posts
Jun 07, 2016 at 17:59
there is no cheating for ctrader platform
Member Since Aug 26, 2014   26 posts
Jun 08, 2016 at 06:46
I wonder why commission on ctrader is more expensive than true ECN MT4 ?
true ECN MT4 should meaning ' same environment as ctrader ' if that is really true ECN .
For ctrader I still don't think is true ECN .
I test on ctrader Ic market ,when I place limit order price within slippage but my price not show up on bid /ask .
can some one explain why .
For example I see USDHUF BID/ASK 273.33/ 274.90
I place buy limit 1 lot 273 .90 , but my buy limit not show up , if in true ECN environment bid/ask should be change to 273.90/274.90 .
I don't think ctrader is ' no cheating ' from brokers as said .
Member Since Nov 14, 2015   325 posts
Jun 08, 2016 at 06:56
cTrader ECN works just the same as ECN in MT4, you have (usually) a bridge in between the MT4/cTrader server and the backend trading platforms. Brokers can cheat just as much regardless of what platform you use.
Member Since Feb 22, 2011   4862 posts
Jun 08, 2016 at 07:29
Tombuontien posted:
I wonder why commission on ctrader is more expensive than true ECN MT4 ?
true ECN MT4 should meaning ' same environment as ctrader ' if that is really true ECN .
For ctrader I still don't think is true ECN .
I test on ctrader Ic market ,when I place limit order price within slippage but my price not show up on bid /ask .
can some one explain why .
For example I see USDHUF BID/ASK 273.33/ 274.90
I place buy limit 1 lot 273 .90 , but my buy limit not show up , if in true ECN environment bid/ask should be change to 273.90/274.90 .
I don't think ctrader is ' no cheating ' from brokers as said .

IcMarkets comission on
ctrader is $0.03 for 0.01 lot
mt4 it is $0.03 for 0.01 lot

Spread are very often close to zero. So your total cost is like 0.07 -0.08. These are great conditions. If you complain about that show me better deal with any broker?
Member Since Aug 26, 2014   26 posts
Jun 09, 2016 at 06:46
how about interactive broker ?
when you trader pair like GBP then Ctrader is much more expensive .
do you know why ctrader more expensive than MT4 ? may be broker can't make money by cheating like m4 ?
togr posted:
Tombuontien posted:
I wonder why commission on ctrader is more expensive than true ECN MT4 ?
true ECN MT4 should meaning ' same environment as ctrader ' if that is really true ECN .
For ctrader I still don't think is true ECN .
I test on ctrader Ic market ,when I place limit order price within slippage but my price not show up on bid /ask .
can some one explain why .
For example I see USDHUF BID/ASK 273.33/ 274.90
I place buy limit 1 lot 273 .90 , but my buy limit not show up , if in true ECN environment bid/ask should be change to 273.90/274.90 .
I don't think ctrader is ' no cheating ' from brokers as said .

IcMarkets comission on
ctrader is $0.03 for 0.01 lot
mt4 it is $0.03 for 0.01 lot

Spread are very often close to zero. So your total cost is like 0.07 -0.08. These are great conditions. If you complain about that show me better deal with any broker?
Member Since Feb 22, 2011   4862 posts
Jun 09, 2016 at 06:52
Tombuontien posted:
how about interactive broker ?
when you trader pair like GBP then Ctrader is much more expensive .
do you know why ctrader more expensive than MT4 ? may be broker can't make money by cheating like m4 ?
togr posted:
Tombuontien posted:
I wonder why commission on ctrader is more expensive than true ECN MT4 ?
true ECN MT4 should meaning ' same environment as ctrader ' if that is really true ECN .
For ctrader I still don't think is true ECN .
I test on ctrader Ic market ,when I place limit order price within slippage but my price not show up on bid /ask .
can some one explain why .
For example I see USDHUF BID/ASK 273.33/ 274.90
I place buy limit 1 lot 273 .90 , but my buy limit not show up , if in true ECN environment bid/ask should be change to 273.90/274.90 .
I don't think ctrader is ' no cheating ' from brokers as said .

IcMarkets comission on
ctrader is $0.03 for 0.01 lot
mt4 it is $0.03 for 0.01 lot

Spread are very often close to zero. So your total cost is like 0.07 -0.08. These are great conditions. If you complain about that show me better deal with any broker?

You should read what I wrote and dont repeat that ctrader is more expensive. It is not.
Member Since Nov 14, 2015   325 posts
Jun 09, 2016 at 08:49
how about interactive broker ?
when you trader pair like GBP then Ctrader is much more expensive .
do you know why ctrader more expensive than MT4 ? may be broker can't make money by cheating like m4 ?
It is common for comission to be in the base currency in cTrader, this is how it works with etc Pepperstone. Which means comission * 1.44 for GBP.

It can be done with MT4 as well (etc fxopen), but it is less common.

Interactive brokers use TWS, not cTrader.
Member Since Jul 16, 2013   92 posts
Jun 17, 2016 at 12:07 (edited Jun 17, 2016 at 12:16)
Only good things to say about cAlgo and cTrader brokers. Very tight spread, hardly any slippage and no interference from a trading desk. DMA, direct market access and I could go on listing all the advantages of the platform. Also there is a lot of free downloads available for the platform. RMMRobot.com is one site you should look into to get free downloads for the platform.
" Lock in the profit and minimize the draw down "
Member Since Feb 22, 2011   4862 posts
Jun 17, 2016 at 12:35
kricka posted:
Only good things to say about cAlgo and cTrader brokers. Very tight spread, hardly any slippage and no interference from a trading desk. DMA, direct market access and I could go on listing all the advantages of the platform. Also there is a lot of free downloads available for the platform. RMMRobot.com is one site you should look into to get free downloads for the platform.
Well the only issue is that both platform ctrader and calgo are constantly disconnecting from account
Member Since Jul 16, 2013   92 posts
Jun 17, 2016 at 12:43 (edited Jun 17, 2016 at 12:53)
That I have no experience about, getting disconnected. It all depends on where you are located and if you are trading your algorithms on a VPS or are depending on your local computer to handle the cBots. For the serious trader I highly recommend a VPS server. With a live account funded higher den $400 it will end up as a free VPS with less slippage and faster execution and an overall cost saving for the trader.
" Lock in the profit and minimize the draw down "
Member Since Feb 22, 2011   4862 posts
Jun 17, 2016 at 18:07
kricka posted:
That I have no experience about, getting disconnected. It all depends on where you are located and if you are trading your algorithms on a VPS or are depending on your local computer to handle the cBots. For the serious trader I highly recommend a VPS server. With a live account funded higher den $400 it will end up as a free VPS with less slippage and faster execution and an overall cost saving for the trader.

Nope it is known issue everyone is facing.
I have dedicated server with tons of RAM and 1GB dedicated line and still ctrader is getting disconnected
Member Since Aug 26, 2014   26 posts
Jun 18, 2016 at 17:33
How long normally it is disconnected ?
That would be bad for scalper with big lot size in and out in few minutes , you can lose your shirt if it is disconnected and you can't close the trades .
any solution for that ?
togr posted:
kricka posted:
That I have no experience about, getting disconnected. It all depends on where you are located and if you are trading your algorithms on a VPS or are depending on your local computer to handle the cBots. For the serious trader I highly recommend a VPS server. With a live account funded higher den $400 it will end up as a free VPS with less slippage and faster execution and an overall cost saving for the trader.

Nope it is known issue everyone is facing.
I have dedicated server with tons of RAM and 1GB dedicated line and still ctrader is getting disconnected
Member Since Feb 22, 2011   4862 posts
Jun 19, 2016 at 06:30
Tombuontien posted:
How long normally it is disconnected ?
That would be bad for scalper with big lot size in and out in few minutes , you can lose your shirt if it is disconnected and you can't close the trades .
any solution for that ?
togr posted:
kricka posted:
That I have no experience about, getting disconnected. It all depends on where you are located and if you are trading your algorithms on a VPS or are depending on your local computer to handle the cBots. For the serious trader I highly recommend a VPS server. With a live account funded higher den $400 it will end up as a free VPS with less slippage and faster execution and an overall cost saving for the trader.

Nope it is known issue everyone is facing.
I have dedicated server with tons of RAM and 1GB dedicated line and still ctrader is getting disconnected

There is no solution I know about so far. It is even worse, once it get disconnected it stays disconnected until you manully fix it. So even the whole night.
Member Since Aug 26, 2014   26 posts
Jun 19, 2016 at 15:08
You mean ' manually fix it '
how do you manually fix it ? can you give us the instruction how to fix it it right away in case we in the middle if scalp trades open and need to close all the trades right away ?
Thanks a lot .
togr posted:
Tombuontien posted:
How long normally it is disconnected ?
That would be bad for scalper with big lot size in and out in few minutes , you can lose your shirt if it is disconnected and you can't close the trades .
any solution for that ?
togr posted:
kricka posted:
That I have no experience about, getting disconnected. It all depends on where you are located and if you are trading your algorithms on a VPS or are depending on your local computer to handle the cBots. For the serious trader I highly recommend a VPS server. With a live account funded higher den $400 it will end up as a free VPS with less slippage and faster execution and an overall cost saving for the trader.

Nope it is known issue everyone is facing.
I have dedicated server with tons of RAM and 1GB dedicated line and still ctrader is getting disconnected

There is no solution I know about so far. It is even worse, once it get disconnected it stays disconnected until you manully fix it. So even the whole night.
Member Since Feb 22, 2011   4862 posts
Jun 19, 2016 at 19:07
Tombuontien posted:
You mean ' manually fix it '
how do you manually fix it ? can you give us the instruction how to fix it it right away in case we in the middle if scalp trades open and need to close all the trades right away ?
Thanks a lot .
togr posted:
Tombuontien posted:
How long normally it is disconnected ?
That would be bad for scalper with big lot size in and out in few minutes , you can lose your shirt if it is disconnected and you can't close the trades .
any solution for that ?
togr posted:
kricka posted:
That I have no experience about, getting disconnected. It all depends on where you are located and if you are trading your algorithms on a VPS or are depending on your local computer to handle the cBots. For the serious trader I highly recommend a VPS server. With a live account funded higher den $400 it will end up as a free VPS with less slippage and faster execution and an overall cost saving for the trader.

Nope it is known issue everyone is facing.
I have dedicated server with tons of RAM and 1GB dedicated line and still ctrader is getting disconnected

There is no solution I know about so far. It is even worse, once it get disconnected it stays disconnected until you manully fix it. So even the whole night.

either restart ctrader or switch calgo off click account login and start calgo again
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