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Dec 16, 2014 at 13:31
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Member Since Jan 14, 2010   2299 posts
Dec 18, 2014 at 14:21
Crazy Trader, you are wasting time here. Were you to spend more time on your trading instead of dick swinging you trading would have become better. The best way is to trade and keep low profile.
My trading become much better after i stopped engaging in meaningless chit chats.
You know, bad energy and all.
Member Since Nov 21, 2011   1718 posts
Dec 18, 2014 at 14:47
Happy trading
Member Since Jun 28, 2011   465 posts
Dec 18, 2014 at 15:25
(CrazyTrader vs Vontogr)

Personally, I would feel comfortable doing business with either of the two, both are good at their jobs but both have different opinions about certain areas. Both have been on the forum as long as I have and both have generated a lot of good advice here.

Both are good men that have let too much emotion get into the discussion, come on guys, who will be big enough to apologize and promise to refrain from angry posts? I will.

Bob
where research touches lives.
Member Since Nov 21, 2011   1718 posts
Dec 18, 2014 at 15:39 (edited Dec 18, 2014 at 15:39)
I apologize for being sarcastic on his pemanent contradiction...
Member Since Jan 14, 2010   2299 posts
Dec 18, 2014 at 18:56
Same to you. I prefer profitable one.

CrazyTrader posted:
Happy trading
Member Since Nov 21, 2011   1718 posts
Jan 09, 2015 at 14:17



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Member Since Jan 15, 2013   12 posts
Jan 10, 2015 at 13:14
Hi Crazy Trader, which account is your real account that we should follow?

Is it "chance of my life" ? This is the real verified account yes?
Member Since Nov 21, 2011   1718 posts
Jan 11, 2015 at 12:55 (edited Jan 11, 2015 at 12:59)
Dear Andrew,

In reply to your pathetic post, I will have to explain you why you are a noob: (I'm sorry for that, but you don't give me choice)

You claim to get 3 years experienced and your live account is 10 days old. (You had 2 options:)
You show your 3 years live account performance or you don't upload anything.

You claim to be an expert because you think you control martingal and leverage on being long eurusd in such bearish trend. LOL



While the 19 december 2014... I explained why to go short:
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7955879#post7955879

In fact I could rename my account name 'Trading Against the crowd' on 'Trading Against Noobs' like Andew.

I'm a bit fed up with all these jealous people... I'm here to help traders or investors to make profit.... not to show that someone is noob.
You know, when I started 7 years ago, I was noob too. The thing is I knew I was noob and I had a lot to learn from experienced traders so I wasn't posting at that time, I focused my time on learning.

Nowadays, I have the recognition from a lot of traders here, and I don't really care what you say... I wish you success with your plan.

In case you need hints to trade the trend on eurusd... you can still refer to realtime signals and not MT4 screenshot to explain in detailed a particular trade.
https://www.myfxbook.com/forex-charts/EURUSD,D1/3494

Don't forget to grow up....

Happy trading
CrazyTrader

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Member Since Nov 21, 2011   1718 posts
Jan 11, 2015 at 13:21
More bla bla please... make me laugh
Member Since Nov 21, 2011   1718 posts
Jan 11, 2015 at 14:34
Extracted from 'Trading Against the Noobs'



EA has never opened any Long trade since the strategy has been tested from september 2014... while in average 70% retail
traders are long.

Enjoy Long positions into bearish trend.... Well done experts!

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Member Since Jun 03, 2010   696 posts
Jan 11, 2015 at 15:01
CrazyTrader posted:
Enjoy Long positions into bearish trend.... Well done experts!

:)
PAMM MANAGER // Professional Fund Manager
Member Since Nov 21, 2011   1718 posts
Jan 15, 2015 at 14:06 (edited Jan 15, 2015 at 14:07)
Dear Andrew,

I thought you were an expert on how to leverage an account?

I warned you to enjoy your long positions into such a bearish trend.

Only experience and good forecast could prevent such disaster.

I also asked you if you knew how to hedge?

I gave you a lot of hints... but you decided to be arrogant and stubborn... see what happen in 15 days!



I knew this was just a matter of time... as usual.

Be humble on forex and respect other on forum... keep low profile until you can talk.


Happy trading

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Member Since Nov 21, 2011   1718 posts
Jan 15, 2015 at 22:58
Andrew's account blew up like the user....


I guess his new nickname next time will be like 'expert-on-leverage' and he will teach other on how to trade... poor kid.

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Member Since Jan 14, 2010   2299 posts
Jan 16, 2015 at 19:34 (edited Jan 16, 2015 at 19:38)
One should not wish or gloat over other man misfortune. he was asking for this but so are you...
Member Since Nov 21, 2011   1718 posts
Jan 16, 2015 at 20:57
Chikot posted:
One should not wish or gloat over other man misfortune. he was asking for this but so are you...

Those who dare to criticize my work while I'm here to help other deserve what they deserve.... killed by fx market. I don't care whose blowing accounts or whose successfull.

Even this guy, in fact I helped him...
- I told him he was too confident talking about how to leverage and adding positions to loser trades.
- I asked him if he knew hedging?
- I told him not to to be long on EURUSD

I think he was mad because my EA (Trading Against Him) pissed him off.

Instead of learning from experienced traders, he though he was one... market caught him... because market isn't here for joking.

Anyway... once more, Happy trading to all.
Member Since Jun 28, 2011   465 posts
Jan 16, 2015 at 22:25
No one needs to feel shame about losing on this tremor. Big name brokers like Aparie and FXCM really got slammed. Aparie may even be going out of business. Things like this can ultimately end up hurting traders everywhere.

The news room talking heads are saying this will be the news event of the year, my opinion, this is just the early tremors. The Swiss didn't jump to this decision without cause. It's the cause that I am concerned about. What if there is a movement among all the banksters to get all the currencies on a 1:1 basis. I have been suspicious of that for sometime now, this did not calm my apprehensions at all.

Bob
 
where research touches lives.
Member Since Jan 14, 2010   2299 posts
Jan 16, 2015 at 22:53 (edited Jan 16, 2015 at 23:02)
Bob, I understand that being able to open and trade FX with these small accounts sounds enticing with potential promise of riches but in reality it is just gambling for little guys. FX markets always were for big banks and corporations to hedge. The market is not moving consistently or makes these crazy moves and leverage is crazy. I believe it is better to learn how to trade other instruments that have been available for trading for 100+ years, put some stake and trade for a living. No one can trade for a living FX with $1000 or $100 :) Guys want to attract investors that's all.
Member Since Jun 28, 2011   465 posts
Jan 17, 2015 at 04:12
Well you can't make a living with that amount but you can safely make 25% a year and with a few extra deposits along the way, a person could easily retire in 10 years or so.

Think about when we first started out. If we could work our asses off for ten years and would never have to work again because our investments have taken over the income, well that sounds like something that many new traders just might be interested in doing. But when you first come in to this market and everyone is taking - 5, 10, 25% a month, to fit in you have to be just as good, right.

We really have a pretty safe product here, in fact I often make the case of why it is the safest market on Earth, at least for right now. Totally transparent, no such thing as cooking the books. There are no books. No insider trading. The forex owns the concept of liquidity, there just isn't a more liquid market anywhere.

But most important is that all other markets compare their value to some currency. That means what ever effects the forex market effects every other market, but not the other way around. I have seen times when stocks went nuts and the related currency - never budged an inch.

This is a good market for those of us who are content with a pretty solid 1.5 to 2% a month. If we are patient and build to a couple of hundred thousand, you can make a living off of that. Well I could anyway, my needs are not all that great. So I argue that you can make a living off of $1000 and time.

Bob
where research touches lives.
Member Since Mar 28, 2014   1 posts
Jan 17, 2015 at 10:35
CrazyTrader posted:
Chikot posted:
One should not wish or gloat over other man misfortune. he was asking for this but so are you...

Those who dare to criticize my work while I'm here to help other deserve what they deserve.... killed by fx market. I don't care whose blowing accounts or whose successfull.

Even this guy, in fact I helped him...
- I told him he was too confident talking about how to leverage and adding positions to loser trades.
- I asked him if he knew hedging?
- I told him not to to be long on EURUSD

I think he was mad because my EA (Trading Against Him) pissed him off.

Instead of learning from experienced traders, he though he was one... market caught him... because market isn't here for joking.

Anyway... once more, Happy trading to all.

You sure blow a lot of hot air for someone whose only real account performance being shown is in the red....
Member Since Jan 14, 2010   2299 posts
Jan 17, 2015 at 12:07
Bob, I really like you. You are a very very good guy :) Seriously. I read many your posts. Can sense good soul when I see one.
Now back to FX. There is a catch. Human condition. In this business may be 5% top is making it. Vast majority going into FX will slowly bleed themselves on these small accounts for years. and majority doe snot have patience to take $1000 and build it over many years.
It takes years upon years just to achieve self control and discipline necessary to succeed, trader must make a plan and follow it through everything but be flexible enough to keep making small changes on the dime if necessary. Guys here waste money but because it is small waste they keep going at it for years just like I did until I realized what I must have done all along.
I will be frank, I am not content with 2% monthly. I know I can do much much better than this. But it took me a lot of practice and work. and for 2 years before finally deciding to go live.
Considering consistency of moves and need for majority to really start making money I believe futures is a way to go. You know they have mini contracts and normal sized contracts, but trader can start with some $4000-5000 and start making considerable amounts very quickly if one is good. So, the point is,m why to play this FX game with $100-1000 and through money time after time away when one should concentrate on psychology, plan discipline until he is profitable for at least 6 months on demo futures for example, but only if all rules followed and then go live with built stake. Makes sense for me. it is what i did.

ForexAssistant posted:
Well you can't make a living with that amount but you can safely make 25% a year and with a few extra deposits along the way, a person could easily retire in 10 years or so.

Think about when we first started out. If we could work our asses off for ten years and would never have to work again because our investments have taken over the income, well that sounds like something that many new traders just might be interested in doing. But when you first come in to this market and everyone is taking - 5, 10, 25% a month, to fit in you have to be just as good, right.

We really have a pretty safe product here, in fact I often make the case of why it is the safest market on Earth, at least for right now. Totally transparent, no such thing as cooking the books. There are no books. No insider trading. The forex owns the concept of liquidity, there just isn't a more liquid market anywhere.

But most important is that all other markets compare their value to some currency. That means what ever effects the forex market effects every other market, but not the other way around. I have seen times when stocks went nuts and the related currency - never budged an inch.

This is a good market for those of us who are content with a pretty solid 1.5 to 2% a month. If we are patient and build to a couple of hundred thousand, you can make a living off of that. Well I could anyway, my needs are not all that great. So I argue that you can make a living off of $1000 and time.

Bob
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