watch this video. can be interesting

Jul 22, 2011 at 17:43
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Member Since Dec 23, 2010   10 posts
Sep 02, 2011 at 10:07
Talking about ATC. They are located in the USA which means no hedging (unless different accounts for buy and sell), first in first out on same currency pairs etc. The spreads are good. Only FinFX is close. Their spread is sometimes less but they ask for more commission (US$ 7per Standard lot round trip).
Yesterday I mentioned FXPro claiming to execute orders below 100 ms, but I was meant to say forex.com. Sorry! But anyway I don't see any ECN connection and their spreads are quite high.
walker36
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Member Since May 13, 2011   1341 posts
Sep 02, 2011 at 11:56 (edited Sep 02, 2011 at 11:57)
About ATC, if you are NONUSCITIZEN no problem with NFA rules and FIFO. :)
Member Since Jan 14, 2010   2299 posts
Sep 02, 2011 at 12:02 (edited Sep 02, 2011 at 12:02)
what if you have got few passports ?😎
walker36
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Member Since May 13, 2011   1341 posts
Sep 02, 2011 at 12:04

Chikot posted:
    what if you have got few passports ?😎

they ask for your ID scan. DONT SEND THE US ONE. LOL 😇
Member Since Jan 14, 2010   2299 posts
Sep 02, 2011 at 12:05
Thankfully I do not have US ID😀
Member Since Dec 23, 2010   10 posts
Sep 02, 2011 at 13:05
Steve, before I posted I had a chat with a representative of ATC. That's what he told me:

Nasser: In regards to hedging, our liquidity provider has the hedging setting from their back office turned off. Which means the trades that are sent to the liquidity provider gets offset with each other. This is done to abide by the no hedging rules in place by the NFA and CFTC.
Nasser: On the MetaTrader 4 platform, the hedging remains activated, which means that if you buy one contract and you sell one contract, the position on the MT4 will remain open, however, when these orders from the MT4 are sent to the liquidity provider, the trades are offset with each other
Rudolf: But friends told me that the rules do not apply to non-us citizens
Nasser: The rules apply to all accounts
walker36
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Member Since May 13, 2011   1341 posts
Sep 02, 2011 at 13:20

rplust posted:
    Steve, before I posted I had a chat with a representative of ATC. That's what he told me:

Nasser: In regards to hedging, our liquidity provider has the hedging setting from their back office turned off. Which means the trades that are sent to the liquidity provider gets offset with each other. This is done to abide by the no hedging rules in place by the NFA and CFTC.
Nasser: On the MetaTrader 4 platform, the hedging remains activated, which means that if you buy one contract and you sell one contract, the position on the MT4 will remain open, however, when these orders from the MT4 are sent to the liquidity provider, the trades are offset with each other
Rudolf: But friends told me that the rules do not apply to non-us citizens
Nasser: The rules apply to all accounts

Hı Rudolf

My discussions with ATC goes very past. to be true I had not discussed about hedge issue due I had no hedgıng EA. my discussion was focused on levergae which is 1/200 for NON US CITIZENS. I guess I made mistake on sayıng NFA hedginig rule.

thanks for correcting;)

walker



Member Since Dec 23, 2010   10 posts
Sep 02, 2011 at 13:34
No problem. Anyway, ATC could still be used for arbitrage trades as they would see only one order.
walker36
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Member Since May 13, 2011   1341 posts
Sep 02, 2011 at 13:36
all brokers unless they dont cheat slpp or requote :)
Member Since Jan 14, 2010   2299 posts
Sep 04, 2011 at 12:44
Steve, I AGREE WITH YOU!
This is what I actually meant.
Please read my above comments where I stated the same that this guy's account will show excellent curve and Sharpe ratio until he BLOWS.
I simply stated that regarding Cuong, not that another guy, I personally think that cuong is not a kind of person that is likely to fake his trading results.
Please do not be so hot headed. i like you too wink

walker36 posted:

CuongVC posted:
To Steve Walker,

That is why not anyone can make money.

I can do the same very fast. Only a well thought ALGO will make money grows longterm, and that take much more than 10 min to do.

smiley


Now I know him and I can make comment!
you have totally missunderstand what I am saying or you do NOT want to understand.
with 2000 pip DD anybody can code. even my grandmamy can trade.

UNTIL ACCOUNT BLOW.

I am out of this thread.

have a nice weekend.

walker
walker36
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Member Since May 13, 2011   1341 posts
Sep 04, 2011 at 12:52
Chikot

I dont want to fight with people here ın threads.
these threads should be fun and we can share our experiences.

I do not post personal if I am not under personal attack.

the dıscussıon about pıp to % come to very strange situation.

forget about all.

lets focus on what we are doing.

regards
walker


Member Since Jan 14, 2010   2299 posts
Sep 04, 2011 at 12:58
that's true, but today is a weekend and I was truly having fun. I was thinking you were too.
People tend to make things complex. But I am usually pretty good of knowing who will eventually blow even though I am not good at calculations. it is pure common sense, so, I completely agree with what you wrote there.

Enjoy long weekend too.
If you are in Northern America of course 😉
walker36
forex_trader_36599
Member Since May 13, 2011   1341 posts
Sep 04, 2011 at 13:01
you too.

have a nice LONG weekend 😄
walker36
forex_trader_36599
Member Since May 13, 2011   1341 posts
Sep 04, 2011 at 14:43
greetings

this weeks Tip:

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you can monitor net traffic with that link.

regards
walker
walker36
forex_trader_36599
Member Since May 13, 2011   1341 posts
Sep 05, 2011 at 13:57
greetings

does any one have a clue how to calculate RISK on hedged positions?

Member Since Jan 14, 2010   2299 posts
Sep 05, 2011 at 14:00
You know, it would be really interesting to know as I always wonder how guys who hedge control their risk. Ok, you are both long and short on same currency but you are only safe as long as both positions are working. How money can be made in this case and what's the risk?
walker36
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Member Since May 13, 2011   1341 posts
Sep 05, 2011 at 14:03

Chikot posted:
    You know, it would be really interesting to know as I always wonder how guys who hedge control their risk. Ok, you are both long and short on same currency but you are only safe as long as both positions are working. How money can be made in this case and what's the risk?

Chikot I have asked the question. you should be the one who answer it😁😁😁
Member Since Jan 14, 2010   2299 posts
Sep 05, 2011 at 14:11
😁, I am wrong person for this task. My math always was mediocre.
I am a man of liberal arts 😉


walker36 posted:
    
Chikot posted:
    You know, it would be really interesting to know as I always wonder how guys who hedge control their risk. Ok, you are both long and short on same currency but you are only safe as long as both positions are working. How money can be made in this case and what's the risk?

Chikot I have asked the question. you should be the one who answer it😁😁😁
walker36
forex_trader_36599
Member Since May 13, 2011   1341 posts
Sep 05, 2011 at 14:20
I will keep in mind. 😄
walker36
forex_trader_36599
Member Since May 13, 2011   1341 posts
Sep 05, 2011 at 14:25

walker36 posted:
    greetings

does any one have a clue how to calculate RISK on hedged positions?


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