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crux
Feb 02 2016 at 12:28
38 posts
kebayamwamba posted:
crux posted:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/crux/bl-1/1096711
https://www.signalstart.com/analysis/good-profit-low-dd/1553

Some info here:

https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/bl-1/868613,2


who can honestly live on US cents???


Show me the difference? I have $1000 on standart account or I have ¢100000 on cent account. Cent account just give me more freedom with lot size when balance is less than minimal 'standart' amount for chosen strategy.

fxinvesta
Feb 02 2016 at 12:47
107 posts
whicked posted:
Anyway. A drawdown of over 30% is ridiculous. Here is mine, its a bit premature and I am working on a couple months of history, but good results so far. I believe 17% DD. Twice a month I deposit and I shoot for low risk high reward opportunities. This is not a EA, it is manual trading.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/whicked/working/1483673


That's very easy to tell when your account is all hidden, not verified, and with only a week's work

People, I have bad news for you, investing carries risks, who is not willing to accept risks, the world has thousands of other businesses, unfortunately, has not yet been discovered a business that guarantees always win without risk, but keep looking. ..

Myfxbook audited accounts, it gives a good analysis, but do not give to you investors. anyone trying to manage capital will have to do more than just make an account here.

It is also easy to do mini accounts with 100 dollars, and seek followers, with only 1000 dollars, you can have 10 accounts, and sell the best of them.

That's good to 'hunt' dumb people, but will not help to have investors.

A fool and his money are short lived together ...

My advice is that if you have 5000 dollars, buy a good TV, and enjoy looking at it, do not invest ...

Risk comes from not knowing what you're doing.
BellaVista507
Feb 02 2016 at 12:56
251 posts
fxinvesta posted:
whicked posted:
Anyway. A drawdown of over 30% is ridiculous. Here is mine, its a bit premature and I am working on a couple months of history, but good results so far. I believe 17% DD. Twice a month I deposit and I shoot for low risk high reward opportunities. This is not a EA, it is manual trading.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/whicked/working/1483673


That's very easy to tell when your account is all hidden, not verified, and with only a week's work

People, I have bad news for you, investing carries risks, who is not willing to accept risks, the world has thousands of other businesses, unfortunately, has not yet been discovered a business that guarantees always win without risk, but keep looking. ..

Myfxbook audited accounts, it gives a good analysis, but do not give to you investors. anyone trying to manage capital will have to do more than just make an account here.

It is also easy to do mini accounts with 100 dollars, and seek followers, with only 1000 dollars, you can have 10 accounts, and sell the best of them.

That's good to 'hunt' dumb people, but will not help to have investors.

A fool and his money are short lived together ...

My advice is that if you have 5000 dollars, buy a good TV, and enjoy looking at it, do not invest ...


 I don't understand why you keep posting on every thread, saying that you have to risk a lot to earn a lot. Clearly you have taken that position because you have earned in your account, but you have had a drawdown of over 50%. My friend, why would you ever risk 50% of your account to earn 50% If your system focused on accurate entries, you would never allow a trade to go against you that much. Simply think about it. You risk 50% of your account to earn 50% of your account, but the reality is you allow 'high impact news' to put your account in risk of margin call, when you could of simply respected price action and waited for the dust to clear.
 Not to mention, it doesn't matter if your account is 100 usd or 10,000 usd. Your money management and risk management should NEVER change. If you risk 2% of your account with 100 usd, you should do the same with 1000 usd or even 1 million. You have no sense of risk management, so you come to these forums and post how ' you have to risk big to win big' and that is a crock of shit!

BellaVista507
Feb 02 2016 at 13:02
251 posts
fxinvesta posted:
BellaVista507 posted:
fxinvesta posted:
asset_developer posted:
Fxall24 posted:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Fxall24/pro-forex-signal/1498853

professional forex Signal, See Trade History in myfxbook and Decide your best Pro forex signal….
Avarage 48 % profit every month Still now and long time verified Day trading strategy….!


Professional signal with >38% DD? Are you kidding?
You have very low standards!


The, analysis myfxbook make the mistake of not discriminating, a floating, a real-DD.

An investor understands that is not the same as having a DD of the deposited money, and have a DD in a cumulative profit.

That's because the business of selling followers, is that a follower can enter in this unfortunate moment and really have an important DD, but the trader is not to blame, when the trader has a gain increases the risk, with this in mind.

Myfxbook gives me a DD of 48%, that's crazy, I never allow a deposit reaches a loss like that, it would be unrecoverable.

And that's the reason why I will never be in the business of signals, because I can never know who comes, or when entering.

We must see the real DD, watching the equty growth, and abs gain.

No, the DD that myfxbook gives cheerfully ...


 Your drawdown of 48% is the drawdown which you should have. Even if you took your account from 10k usd to 100k usd which is a 1000% profit and your floating loss after having reached 100k is say 45,000usd then your drawdown is correctly 45%... Drawdown % is the amount of your account you had/have in red. It doesn't matter if it is profit or deposit.


You are right, but I'm not a trader to be right, I am a trader to make money, and I can assure you, I, and my investors are happy.

  I would love to never have a DD, that would be fantastic, but the reality is different ...

There, investments, much safer than forex, your bank will probably give you 3% annually, with almost zero risk, and you can also make your trading less ambitious, and spend 15 hours a day to have a 10% annually. or you as I do, accept the risks and focus only on profits that you have at the end of the year.

Lower the risk is easy, you only have to operate with less exposure.

PS: Whatever they say, is not the same as losing the capital deposited, and lose some of the gains, do not forget rule number 1 in investments. not lose money!


 You have to be joking. A loss is a loss. No matter if you lose your profit or your investment the reality is you should not be risking 50% of your account, even if you earned 1000% profit. Especially considering the fact you are here on myfxbook looking for clients, as you send the following pm to a member here.



 You actually say here that profit is nothing, and that new followers mean nothing to you, but how do you think a potential investor into your PAMM would feel if you tell him or her that? You are what is wrong with this market. You only think about yourself in stead of doing what is best for yourself and your clients. No one will ever take you seriously, no matter if you turn your account to 100,000,000 usd because you are ok with having a floating loss of 50%!

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vm9999
Feb 02 2016 at 17:30
5 posts
May offer to watch brand new system (new version started only few days ago). But there is some big background behind. Maybe it will be interesting for you in nearest future. Expecting profit around 30% per month, DD <20%.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/vm9999/crossfader22/1427221

I'ts free. We spent few years for development, last few month was live tuning. Now seems to be ok.

hermonysystem
Feb 03 2016 at 07:24
169 posts
fxinvesta posted:
“Unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic-stricken, you should not be in the stock market.”

warren buffett

Warren Buffett is the third richest person in the world


Do u know how he become 3rd richest person now?Once he was 1st richest person after donating huge portion of his profit he still in 3rd now.Lots of people here not gonna believe he is the 3rd richest person here until he dont show live account of making money lolz.keep up the good works!!!!!

fxinvesta
Feb 03 2016 at 07:34
107 posts
BellaVista507 posted:
fxinvesta posted:
whicked posted:
Anyway. A drawdown of over 30% is ridiculous. Here is mine, its a bit premature and I am working on a couple months of history, but good results so far. I believe 17% DD. Twice a month I deposit and I shoot for low risk high reward opportunities. This is not a EA, it is manual trading.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/whicked/working/1483673


That's very easy to tell when your account is all hidden, not verified, and with only a week's work

People, I have bad news for you, investing carries risks, who is not willing to accept risks, the world has thousands of other businesses, unfortunately, has not yet been discovered a business that guarantees always win without risk, but keep looking. ..

Myfxbook audited accounts, it gives a good analysis, but do not give to you investors. anyone trying to manage capital will have to do more than just make an account here.

It is also easy to do mini accounts with 100 dollars, and seek followers, with only 1000 dollars, you can have 10 accounts, and sell the best of them.

That's good to 'hunt' dumb people, but will not help to have investors.

A fool and his money are short lived together ...

My advice is that if you have 5000 dollars, buy a good TV, and enjoy looking at it, do not invest ...


 I don't understand why you keep posting on every thread, saying that you have to risk a lot to earn a lot. Clearly you have taken that position because you have earned in your account, but you have had a drawdown of over 50%. My friend, why would you ever risk 50% of your account to earn 50% If your system focused on accurate entries, you would never allow a trade to go against you that much. Simply think about it. You risk 50% of your account to earn 50% of your account, but the reality is you allow 'high impact news' to put your account in risk of margin call, when you could of simply respected price action and waited for the dust to clear.
 Not to mention, it doesn't matter if your account is 100 usd or 10,000 usd. Your money management and risk management should NEVER change. If you risk 2% of your account with 100 usd, you should do the same with 1000 usd or even 1 million. You have no sense of risk management, so you come to these forums and post how ' you have to risk big to win big' and that is a crock of shit!


Dear friend, (as you like to call, but I fear that we are not)
Again you're right, but first, I'll be happy to answer step by step your interpretations.
1) never said that to win a lot, you have to risk a lot.
2) I Never said I was taking a 2% risk
3) I do not care, followers, because I do not participate in the system of followers.
(The 20/01/16 at 06:39, myfxbook Support wrote:
Fxinvesta Hello!
There is a new user waiting to copy your System with signal Fxinvesta
start)
Try your, find my system there :)
I use myfxbook to give my clients my statistics.
Only offered my services in the correct thread.
This is a forum, and I be free to give my views.
Now the important thing: An investor is one thing, and a dreamer with 5k is something else.
An investor knows what he does and knows, that at all times have full control of the money
The investor chooses the risk, and decides their goals, but obviously I do not work for free.
If the investor sets a maximum risk of 2%, I do not work directly with him.
If the investor accepts a 20% risk, if at any time the floating, reaches that level, the operations will be closed.
But it should also set the gain that is seeking.
If he are looking for a 30% annual, when I get it, he can not decide anything else, and I decide.
From there on, as I work only performance fee, I need to earn my money, and, the, risk I take with my money is my business.
As you can see. in my account. my investors withdraw their winnings.
But I think all this is useless, are not things you understand, for you this is simplified, 50% DD, wow! danger!!!
But my friend, if I make money for you, you will have to pay me, and since I know exactly what I do, if I decide to have a floating loss of 80%, when you already have the money we agreed, you should just close your mouth, or begin to do trading.
Trading is easy, there are only two options, buying and selling, the difference is that i know whn making one. and when do the other.
Now, say that you are right, I have not, to intervene in this forum, I do not need it, it bores me, and it's a total waste of my time.
So, greetings, and this was my last contribution.

Risk comes from not knowing what you're doing.
whicked
Feb 03 2016 at 07:36
55 posts
fxinvesta posted:
whicked posted:
Anyway. A drawdown of over 30% is ridiculous. Here is mine, its a bit premature and I am working on a couple months of history, but good results so far. I believe 17% DD. Twice a month I deposit and I shoot for low risk high reward opportunities. This is not a EA, it is manual trading.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/whicked/working/1483673


That's very easy to tell when your account is all hidden, not verified, and with only a week's work

People, I have bad news for you, investing carries risks, who is not willing to accept risks, the world has thousands of other businesses, unfortunately, has not yet been discovered a business that guarantees always win without risk, but keep looking. ..

Myfxbook audited accounts, it gives a good analysis, but do not give to you investors. anyone trying to manage capital will have to do more than just make an account here.

It is also easy to do mini accounts with 100 dollars, and seek followers, with only 1000 dollars, you can have 10 accounts, and sell the best of them.

That's good to 'hunt' dumb people, but will not help to have investors.

A fool and his money are short lived together ...

My advice is that if you have 5000 dollars, buy a good TV, and enjoy looking at it, do not invest ...


Yadda Yadda Yadda Blah Blah Blah. Your account's hidden, its not verified, your account... your history... blah blah blah. It doesn't matter if the account is verified or not. I am not looking to sell my system, I am merely putting my history out there for those to see. Secondly, I hide my active trades as since I am not a independent broker or advisor, posting your active trades out there and having someone take those trades can get you in trouble regardless of what the website says.

If you are not aware of the CFTC rules, you should really read up on those. I am not going to lose my shirt by someone taking my trades and not having the discipline nor expertise on when and how to get in and out of the market. It simple common sense. Or if you aren't registered with the EBA, you really shouldn't be managing money.

You profess you are a 'expert', but yet you show no professional courtesy to your fellow traders. You profess your system works, even though others that are experienced can see through the history of your trades. You profess that you can make money, but others can see you risk ALOT by trying to do so.

Listen, you have no connection to your investors, and rightfully so you shouldn't. You should not be managing money, you should be managing your own money.

And to your comment about the 5,000 dollars, go buy a TV B.S. I would not want to buy a TV such that in 1 year it is outdated and I can't resell for more than 50% of the original cost. I would rather invest the money over the 1 year and get a return with someone that understand my needs and not their own.

I do not follow the path of others, I create my own path and leave a trail behind me
asset_developer
Feb 03 2016 at 07:45
115 posts
vm9999 posted:
May offer to watch brand new system (new version started only few days ago). But there is some big background behind. Maybe it will be interesting for you in nearest future. Expecting profit around 30% per month, DD <20%.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/vm9999/crossfader22/1427221

I'ts free. We spent few years for development, last few month was live tuning. Now seems to be ok.


Have you backtest to verify your long term results? Since you are using Demo plus you have only several days worth of data.

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