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A simple but a serious question

nadyrkhan
Jul 12 2016 at 13:31
4 posts
Dear Professional / Experienced / Intermediate / Novice / Newbie Traders

I have a simple question that no one yet has answered it, or perhaps its my level of understanding.

Myfxbook is here and I find it somewhat helpful rather than others. I rather feel that I have been left out of the race, as the whole forex industry has evolved, after I blew up my account. There are automated systems, MAMM, PAMM, trade copier, signal provider and what not.

My question is as there are people and automated programs with real accounts and myfxbook verify them as so. I went through different profiles of automated programs, the GAIN was 10,000+% in 3 years. Seriously? by investing 1000$ and paying 30$ monthly service fee, the account size expanded to 100,000$+ in 3 years.

Could that amount be put to withdrawl? Has anyone actually subscribe to any of these systems?

If that implicates, it mean I should waste no time and subscribe to that system, Sit back and Relax? Its all passing above my head and I am not catching it.

Guide me in a proper direction please.


PTG (ProTradersGroup)
Jul 12 2016 at 14:38
386 posts
nadyrkhan posted:

My question is as there are people and automated programs with real accounts and myfxbook verify them as so. I went through different profiles of automated programs, the GAIN was 10,000+% in 3 years. Seriously?


Which one, can you give a link?

wiseinvest
Jul 12 2016 at 14:41
127 posts
My simple two cents answer.....

To become an autotrader,you need amongst other things:

a 3 months track record
full account verification
drawdown of no more than 50%

There are more.... This is a good guideline in selecting a good MAMM, PAMM, trade copier, signal provider.
For a serious investor these things are a must.

There are a lot of fake accounts that pop up like mushrooms everywhere.. Some of these fake account users have their accounts doctored at unscrupulous brokers and they can get their accounts verified.

So immediately when I see a ridiculous ROI un/verified but on a shady broker, I know it is fake.
Have a look at the ROI offered by these autotrade providers - rarely over 25% a month - to me that is realistic.

As the old adage goes - If it sounds too good to be true, it normally is.. this can be applied to a lot of things in life.

Another phenomenon I frequently encounter..... is accounts that perform stellar for a month or two and then go boom... As a serious investor you want something that has been around for longer.

My accounts will ALWAYS show high DD. This is done purposely to maximize our withdrawals every week.
xgavinc
Jul 12 2016 at 14:57
235 posts
Although those gains are possible, I'm skeptical on the probability that they can sustain that growth. The only reason for me being skeptical is that you don't know what the distribution is and also remember that a lot of the money there is unclaimed investment. Let's assume there are 100 investors and only one investor dumped 90% of the funds in there... what happens to that account when that one investor takes his / her investment out (can the gain continue? will it force the other 99 to grab and run leaving the trader with a margin issue? and more importantly, how invested is the trader in that system? (personal funds). There are many questions you will never get the answers to.

If I were curious, I would probably invest no more $300 (even if I had more - with that growth, surely the return will cover your service fee... right?). Any return above paying the service fee I would invest some in other systems providing moderate and low returns with lower to almost zero charge (diversify)... if they go bank, then you lose $300 max, If not, you still gain a [above] healthy return that you can reinvest, distribute (diversify) and some you can put into an investment account at a bank (protected returns) or buy local company shares, or whatever you want really.

At the end of the day, it's your money, you decide what to do, how to do it and with how much (risk)... all I'm saying is tread with your head not with your heart, and don't get greedy. Hope you gained some perspective and got some answer from your 'unanswered' question.

For every loss there should be at least an equal and opposite profit.
xgavinc
Jul 12 2016 at 15:04
235 posts
wiseinvest posted:
My simple two cents answer.....

To become an autotrader,you need amongst other things:

a 3 months track record
full account verification
drawdown of no more than 50%

There are more.... This is a good guideline in selecting a good MAMM, PAMM, trade copier, signal provider.
For a serious investor these things are a must.

There are a lot of fake accounts that pop up like mushrooms everywhere.. Some of these fake account users have their accounts doctored at unscrupulous brokers and they can get their accounts verified.

So immediately when I see a ridiculous ROI un/verified but on a shady broker, I know it is fake.
Have a look at the ROI offered by these autotrade providers - rarely over 25% a month - to me that is realistic.

As the old adage goes - If it sounds too good to be true, it normally is.. this can be applied to a lot of things in life.

Another phenomenon I frequently encounter..... is accounts that perform stellar for a month or two and then go boom... As a serious investor you want something that has been around for longer.


Worth every bit of two cents.

For every loss there should be at least an equal and opposite profit.
Magixs (Magiic)
Jul 12 2016 at 15:15
435 posts
To add on to wiseinvest, the history should be opened, look at the history and see whether or not it makes sense, the provider should be transparent in their trading system, and you should be able to evaluate it, whether it's plausible and has potential to continue or whether it will go booom. That is on top of the broker/verified and length of history.


rob559
Jul 12 2016 at 15:31
1916 posts
excellent answers here..

RMC3WLP68T
Jul 17 2016 at 20:28
24 posts
You asked for direction so I'm going to give my take on it. If trading is something that you want others to do so that you can follow their trades then I would research and learn about the various statistics that are provided on a myfxbook performance page. This way, you understand what you're looking at and therefore understand which performances to follow and which to look past.

If you're in the market to buy a car, you would want to know about cars in detail so that you choose the right car for you, not the car that has the best marketing to catch your eye.

Good luck shopping around, if you find something good, post it here so someone can kick the tires and give feedback.

asset_developer
Jul 24 2016 at 00:20
115 posts
wiseinvest posted:
My simple two cents answer.....

To become an autotrader,you need amongst other things:

a 3 months track record
full account verification
drawdown of no more than 50%

There are more.... This is a good guideline in selecting a good MAMM, PAMM, trade copier, signal provider.
For a serious investor these things are a must.

There are a lot of fake accounts that pop up like mushrooms everywhere.. Some of these fake account users have their accounts doctored at unscrupulous brokers and they can get their accounts verified.

So immediately when I see a ridiculous ROI un/verified but on a shady broker, I know it is fake.
Have a look at the ROI offered by these autotrade providers - rarely over 25% a month - to me that is realistic.

As the old adage goes - If it sounds too good to be true, it normally is.. this can be applied to a lot of things in life.

Another phenomenon I frequently encounter..... is accounts that perform stellar for a month or two and then go boom... As a serious investor you want something that has been around for longer.


You had a HUGEEE DD this week of 42% and you want to trade for clients? 50% DD seems to be acceptable in your mind and that's because you don't take risks with large capitals of your own.

herodontcry
Aug 03 2016 at 06:00
16 posts
maybe an easy way to see your account manager not trick you is by asking them to provide you with investor password to see their trading history for real so you can judge your account manager honest or not

nothing is impossible
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