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Where to find investors?

Techno_Chiken
Jan 08 2015 at 07:54
11 posts
ysam1991 posted:
Investors can't find managers, managers can't find investors... lol)


It's like a lot of women in the life of little men. Someone get someone need to wait long time for get or never get. Life its life.

pmjn87
Jan 08 2015 at 09:26
12 posts
I'm trader looking for investment, thats why I started this topic. If there is someone looking for trader, check my track record, even though it has nothing to do with my future performance.

VlasovTrend (VlasovTrend)
Jan 08 2015 at 15:00
107 posts
platin posted:
why a website? this costs money a needs skills in webdesign and graphic design (if you want to look serious...)
Using a free hosting service, a standart content management template and some word graphics will not do the job :D.

It is so much easier to use social trading sites.

offcourse everyone is free to go the hard way, just for the fun.


I am not fully agree with you, I have created a website with free hosting and it helps me to find investors (The first one came from MyFXbook and now there are two guys that already invested some funds to my PAMM account and now they are waiting for a rollover to their funds will become added to my account. They visited my web-site and contacted me via contact form).
Dear pmjn87, visit my profile on MyFXbook.com, you will find URL of my web-site in 'Bio' section. maybe you will like it and you will create the same site, it is free.
There are some limitations for free using, but I think for the first time it will be enough for you.
Hope my advise will be helpful for you.

Let's make a profit)))
pirate_joe
Jan 09 2015 at 09:29
32 posts
VlasovTrend posted:
I am not fully agree with you, I have created a website with free hosting and it helps me to find investors (The first one came from MyFXbook and now there are two guys that already invested some funds to my PAMM account and now they are waiting for a rollover to their funds will become added to my account. They visited my web-site and contacted me via contact form).
Dear pmjn87, visit my profile on MyFXbook.com, you will find URL of my web-site in 'Bio' section. maybe you will like it and you will create the same site, it is free.
There are some limitations for free using, but I think for the first time it will be enough for you.
Hope my advise will be helpful for you.


You have at least 6m of history, is the first person in this thread which is not like all another 'super hedge fund random martingale super safe trader'. Although you choose a weird broker to trade, maybe you are the part of broker's team and draw your history ? I not offend, have a question why you do not use another more reliable broker with much more investors on the board ?

Thanks.

CrazyTrader (CrazyTrader)
Jan 09 2015 at 10:35
1718 posts
That's why the most important is the person (as trader) you rely on instead of track record.

Cheers.

Igo1
Jan 09 2015 at 10:51
42 posts
CrazyTrader posted:
That's why the most important is the person (as trader) you rely on instead of track record.

Cheers.


there might be some situations where a trader cant transfer his/companies track record. But in this case he is probably well known as trader. In such a case there is some evidence to rely on. But even in such a rare situation it is difficult to get initial funding. But for the retail market there should be a track record and a reliable regulation available.


VlasovTrend (VlasovTrend)
Jan 09 2015 at 16:11
107 posts
pirate_joe posted:
VlasovTrend posted:
I am not fully agree with you, I have created a website with free hosting and it helps me to find investors (The first one came from MyFXbook and now there are two guys that already invested some funds to my PAMM account and now they are waiting for a rollover to their funds will become added to my account. They visited my web-site and contacted me via contact form).
Dear pmjn87, visit my profile on MyFXbook.com, you will find URL of my web-site in "Bio" section. maybe you will like it and you will create the same site, it is free.
There are some limitations for free using, but I think for the first time it will be enough for you.
Hope my advise will be helpful for you.


You have at least 6m of history, is the first person in this thread which is not like all another "super hedge fund random martingale super safe trader". Although you choose a weird broker to trade, maybe you are the part of broker's team and draw your history ? I not offend, have a question why you do not use another more reliable broker with much more investors on the board ?

Thanks.


Hi, Joe.
Please, sorry for my English - it is not my native language.
At first I want to say that I just wanted to give an advise to pmjn87, because he created this thread to get help and I hope my advise will help him, because from my experience it can help.
I am not sure that I understood what do you mean by "You have at least 6m of history, is the first person in this thread which is not like all another "super hedge fund random martingale super safe trader"". I am a usual trader, I have a lot of experience of trading, but I have created a PAMM account only in 2014 and I remember that I was really happy when I got first investments.
Why this broker? It is easy) I had a usual account with them and I am completely satisfied with their services

Let's make a profit)))
mavericks
Jan 09 2015 at 16:16
110 posts
In forex talk is cheap. Only thing that counts are results. From my experience you need to get exposure by producing some results, than you will be contacted by investors daily. Problem is that lot of them are just trying to pull out some info. regarding trading and are not in the position to invest.

Get investors and get paid 15 percent of theyr profits. More on my website.
wlk1
Jan 10 2015 at 09:49
69 posts
It is true : 'past performance is not indicative of future returns' ..... but it is a bloody good indication. A long track record with decent results will always outshine a short track record with very high returns.

It shows the manager can :
1. perform in good and bad market conditions.
2. manage his/her mental state - no over leveraging and revenge trading when the chips are down.
3. manage accounts, and i'm talking about back room operations - client management, accounting, audit etc.
4. manage style drift - as to not hop from system to system causing the funds to behave erratically.
5. has a solid strategy - that works i more than 1 market condition.

The manager being invested in his/her own fund ? That's also important to show the managers confidence in their own trading. Eating your own cooking, or so they say...

-------------------------------

https://my.morningstar.com/ap/quicktake/overview.aspx?PerformanceId=0P00008MEM

I do NOT manage this fund. I just work with the parent company.

Ask yourself why this fund alone is over USD100m, eventho'
1. 3 year CAGR 16% and 5 year CAGR is 20%.
2. Up front charge is 5%, even before your money is invested.

Why ??
1. Track record matters - almost 15 years.
2. Survived 1 major & 2 minor market meltdowns, and going through 1 more now.
3. 10y performance annihilated the benchmark.
4. Trading simple equities, no hedging, no derivatives, no levereage.
5. This fund has also survived a changes of fund managers - Solid long term strategy is in place. I'm not saying the cook isn't important, but the recipe must be pretty damn good.

So what does this all mean ? - After reading this thread, I'll leave you to decide which person knows what they're talking about, and whos just trying to paint a pretty picture of themselves, and the rubbish they're trying to pass off for facts.

The market will go up, failing which, it will go down.
mavericks
Jan 10 2015 at 13:13
110 posts
wlk1 posted:
It is true : "past performance is not indicative of future returns" ..... but it is a bloody good indication. A long track record with decent results will always outshine a short track record with very high returns.

It shows the manager can :
1. perform in good and bad market conditions.
2. manage his/her mental state - no over leveraging and revenge trading when the chips are down.
3. manage accounts, and i'm talking about back room operations - client management, accounting, audit etc.
4. manage style drift - as to not hop from system to system causing the funds to behave erratically.
5. has a solid strategy - that works i more than 1 market condition.

The manager being invested in his/her own fund ? That's also important to show the managers confidence in their own trading. Eating your own cooking, or so they say...

-------------------------------

https://my.morningstar.com/ap/quicktake/overview.aspx?PerformanceId=0P00008MEM

I do NOT manage this fund. I just work with the parent company.

Ask yourself why this fund alone is over USD100m, eventho'
1. 3 year CAGR 16% and 5 year CAGR is 20%.
2. Up front charge is 5%, even before your money is invested.

Why ??
1. Track record matters - almost 15 years.
2. Survived 1 major & 2 minor market meltdowns, and going through 1 more now.
3. 10y performance annihilated the benchmark.
4. Trading simple equities, no hedging, no derivatives, no levereage.
5. This fund has also survived a changes of fund managers - Solid long term strategy is in place. I'm not saying the cook isn't important, but the recipe must be pretty damn good.

So what does this all mean ? - After reading this thread, I'll leave you to decide which person knows what they're talking about, and whos just trying to paint a pretty picture of themselves, and the rubbish they're trying to pass off for facts.


You are absolutelly correct.

Even though , there are some traders here just flashing they useless knowledge while still blowing demo accounts.

For me it is important that strategy survived 2008 and last couple of months on USD and JPY.

Also investable trader should also trade own money of minimum lets say 50 000 USD. Psychology of trading becomes different where there is lot to gain and lot to lose.

Also I agree on trading more instruments. System should be more or lesss universal anshould apply on all the markets.

Trading same system is questionable. I believe in ability to adapt and bent the rules if necessary. Confidence and expertise to do that is propably one of the most important aspects of sucessful trading.

Best regards

M

Get investors and get paid 15 percent of theyr profits. More on my website.
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