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# $1000 to $1,000,000,000

pipinvestment1

Member Since Aug 14, 2010
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Aug 30, 2010 at 08:29

Member Since Aug 14, 2010
219 posts

I wanted to share this information with the new traders, because they often forget about the long term picture and focus on huge gains at day one. You do not need 100 pip swing trades or huge gains everyday.

All you need is 20 pips consistently. So, yes some days you may make more and some days you may make less, but it order for you to become a full time trader, you must make 100 pips a week for years to come... This means that you do not need to risk your accounts, by trading news, or market opens. All you need is 1 good trade a day. Thats it..

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This is not some far fetched dream, nor is this impossible. We are not getting greedy, and we are not shooting for the stars.

We have realistic goals and we can achieve them. Yes you will need a solid strategy and discipline to follow that strategy day in and day out. But it is all very possible.

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This concept of 20 pips a day has been written on my BIG white Board so many times that ''How can I forget this simple goal.''

However, when I sit down to trade. I forget about that my goal is to ONLY make a few good trades and earn my 20 pips. And this is what has been the leading factor of my failure for years. Honestly, this is the main reason. We all feel that, We can achieve more, so lets put on another trade.... well in the end,,, you should have been happy with that 20 pip gain. Because after trading for a few years, that 20 pips a day goal, would have turned into a nice portfolio. But greed often gets in the way, and we contnue to lose our money.

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So new and old traders... Print this out. Hang it on the wall. and remember, ''You don't need all the opportunities, you only need a few that can earn you 20 pips a day'''

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This information has been taken from my website, as I thought we should all SEE THE BIG PICTURE

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This is for investors as well... Stop trying to find traders that can double your account every month. Find a trader that is consistently making pips... In the long run, you will have grown your account much further than trying to find the best trader on the block

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Compounding Lot Sizes When Your Equity grows.

This technique can grow your account astronomically in a short amount of time. The only way to increase the outcome of success with compounding is to increase your accuracy, risk management and discipline skills. We all must follow the rules that come along with making money quickly. The first objective to handle Draw-down and have a strict guideline of exiting bad trades at a loss. Especially, considering that “Unmanaged” trades are the losing trades that make all(except a few) traders fail. Often enough, it is one specific trade that a trader will not exit from that consequently ends their trading career prematurely. . If the trader does not close their losing trade quickly, their account equity can be severally damaged. You do not want an equity curve that looks like a martingale. An inevitable crash in the end. We have to secure profits and limit losses quickly.

Account Balance – Lot per Trade – Pip Value in USD

$1000 = .1lot per trade = $1 = 1 pip after spread

$2500 = .25lot per trade = $2.50 = 1 pip after spread

$5000 = .5lot per trade = $5 = 1 pip after spread

$10000 = 1.0lot per trade = $10 = 1 pip after spread

$20000 = 2.0lot per trade = $20 = 1 pip after spread

$50000 = 5.0 lot per trade = $50 = 1 pip after spread

$100000 = 10.0lot per trade = $100 = 1 pip after spread

$500000 = 50.0lot per trade = $500 = 1 pip after spread -MT4 Limit

$1000000 = 100.0lot per trade = $1000 = 1 pip after spread

$1000: Start Compounding

Month 1

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1100

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1200

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1300

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1400

Month 2

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1500

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1600

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1700

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1800

Month 3

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1900

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2100

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2200

Month 4

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2300

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2400

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2500

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2750

Month 5

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $3000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $3250

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $3500

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $200 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $3750

Month 6

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $4000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $4250

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $4500

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $4750

Month 7

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $5000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $5500

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $6000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $6500

Month 8

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $7000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $7500

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $8000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $8500

Month 9

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $9000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $9500

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $10000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance 11000

Month 10

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $12000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $13000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $14000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $15000

Month 11

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $16000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $17000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $18000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $19000

Month 12

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $20000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $22000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $240000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $26000

We will have an opportunity to achieve $2,000 as a weekly income after the first year

Only 20 pips a day

Year 2- Month 2

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $28000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $30000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $32000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $34000

Year 2- Month 3

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $36000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $38000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $40000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $42000

Year 2- Month 4

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $44000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $46000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $48000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $50000

Year 2- Month 5

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $55000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $60000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $65000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $70000

Year 2- Month 6

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $75000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $80000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $85000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $90000

Year 2- Month 7

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $95000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $100000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $110000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $120000

Year 2- Month 8

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $130000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $140000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $150000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $160000

Year 2- Month 9

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $170000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $180000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $190000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $200000

Year 2- Month 10

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $210000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $220000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $230000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $240000

Year 2- Month 11

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $250000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $260000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $270000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $280000

Year 2- Month 12

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $290000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $300000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $310000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $320000

Year 3- Month 1

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $330000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $340000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $350000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $360000

Year 3- Month2

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $370000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $380000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $390000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $400000

Year 3- Month3

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $410000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $420000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $430000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $440000

Year 3- Month4

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $450000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $460000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $470000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $480000

Year 3- Month5

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $490000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $500000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $550000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $600000

Year 3- Month6

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $650000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $700000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $750000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $800000

Year 3- Month7

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $850000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $900000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $950000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1000000

Congratulations. You have been promoted to C.E.O and have been awarded an Elite Trader Certificate, granting you access to new liquidity pools and 100 Lot positions.

How does $100,000 as weekly income sound?

Advancements

New Liquidity Providers

Smaller Commission percentage per trade

Institutional Platforms

Possible Job Opportunities

Year 3- Mont8

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1100000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1200000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1300000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $100000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1400000

All you need is 20 pips consistently. So, yes some days you may make more and some days you may make less, but it order for you to become a full time trader, you must make 100 pips a week for years to come... This means that you do not need to risk your accounts, by trading news, or market opens. All you need is 1 good trade a day. Thats it..

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is not some far fetched dream, nor is this impossible. We are not getting greedy, and we are not shooting for the stars.

We have realistic goals and we can achieve them. Yes you will need a solid strategy and discipline to follow that strategy day in and day out. But it is all very possible.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This concept of 20 pips a day has been written on my BIG white Board so many times that ''How can I forget this simple goal.''

However, when I sit down to trade. I forget about that my goal is to ONLY make a few good trades and earn my 20 pips. And this is what has been the leading factor of my failure for years. Honestly, this is the main reason. We all feel that, We can achieve more, so lets put on another trade.... well in the end,,, you should have been happy with that 20 pip gain. Because after trading for a few years, that 20 pips a day goal, would have turned into a nice portfolio. But greed often gets in the way, and we contnue to lose our money.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So new and old traders... Print this out. Hang it on the wall. and remember, ''You don't need all the opportunities, you only need a few that can earn you 20 pips a day'''

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This information has been taken from my website, as I thought we should all SEE THE BIG PICTURE

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is for investors as well... Stop trying to find traders that can double your account every month. Find a trader that is consistently making pips... In the long run, you will have grown your account much further than trying to find the best trader on the block

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Compounding Lot Sizes When Your Equity grows.

This technique can grow your account astronomically in a short amount of time. The only way to increase the outcome of success with compounding is to increase your accuracy, risk management and discipline skills. We all must follow the rules that come along with making money quickly. The first objective to handle Draw-down and have a strict guideline of exiting bad trades at a loss. Especially, considering that “Unmanaged” trades are the losing trades that make all(except a few) traders fail. Often enough, it is one specific trade that a trader will not exit from that consequently ends their trading career prematurely. . If the trader does not close their losing trade quickly, their account equity can be severally damaged. You do not want an equity curve that looks like a martingale. An inevitable crash in the end. We have to secure profits and limit losses quickly.

Account Balance – Lot per Trade – Pip Value in USD

$1000 = .1lot per trade = $1 = 1 pip after spread

$2500 = .25lot per trade = $2.50 = 1 pip after spread

$5000 = .5lot per trade = $5 = 1 pip after spread

$10000 = 1.0lot per trade = $10 = 1 pip after spread

$20000 = 2.0lot per trade = $20 = 1 pip after spread

$50000 = 5.0 lot per trade = $50 = 1 pip after spread

$100000 = 10.0lot per trade = $100 = 1 pip after spread

$500000 = 50.0lot per trade = $500 = 1 pip after spread -MT4 Limit

$1000000 = 100.0lot per trade = $1000 = 1 pip after spread

$1000: Start Compounding

Month 1

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1100

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1200

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1300

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1400

Month 2

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1500

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1600

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1700

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1800

Month 3

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1900

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2100

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2200

Month 4

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2300

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2400

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2500

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2750

Month 5

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $3000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $3250

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $3500

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $200 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $3750

Month 6

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $4000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $4250

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $4500

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $4750

Month 7

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $5000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $5500

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $6000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $6500

Month 8

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $7000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $7500

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $8000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $8500

Month 9

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $9000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $9500

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $10000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance 11000

Month 10

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $12000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $13000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $14000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $15000

Month 11

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $16000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $17000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $18000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $19000

Month 12

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $20000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $22000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $240000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $26000

We will have an opportunity to achieve $2,000 as a weekly income after the first year

Only 20 pips a day

Year 2- Month 2

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $28000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $30000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $32000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $34000

Year 2- Month 3

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $36000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $38000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $40000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $42000

Year 2- Month 4

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $44000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $46000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $48000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $50000

Year 2- Month 5

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $55000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $60000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $65000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $70000

Year 2- Month 6

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $75000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $80000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $85000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $90000

Year 2- Month 7

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $95000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $100000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $110000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $120000

Year 2- Month 8

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $130000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $140000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $150000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $160000

Year 2- Month 9

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $170000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $180000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $190000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $200000

Year 2- Month 10

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $210000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $220000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $230000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $240000

Year 2- Month 11

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $250000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $260000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $270000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $280000

Year 2- Month 12

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $290000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $300000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $310000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $320000

Year 3- Month 1

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $330000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $340000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $350000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $360000

Year 3- Month2

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $370000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $380000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $390000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $400000

Year 3- Month3

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $410000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $420000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $430000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $440000

Year 3- Month4

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $450000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $460000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $470000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $480000

Year 3- Month5

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $490000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $500000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $550000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $600000

Year 3- Month6

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $650000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $700000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $750000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $800000

Year 3- Month7

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $850000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $900000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $950000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1000000

Congratulations. You have been promoted to C.E.O and have been awarded an Elite Trader Certificate, granting you access to new liquidity pools and 100 Lot positions.

How does $100,000 as weekly income sound?

Advancements

New Liquidity Providers

Smaller Commission percentage per trade

Institutional Platforms

Possible Job Opportunities

Year 3- Mont8

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1100000

20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1200000

20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1300000

20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $100000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1400000

Aug 30, 2010 at 11:03

Member Since Apr 13, 2010
83 posts

i will like to add again.

your post just boils down to compounding interest. a trader can actually turn $1000 to $1 million in the next 3 years if he makes 21.2% compounded monthly.

the 20 pip a day target is cool but it might make the trader indulge in 'over-trading' thinking he must place a trade EVERYDAY and MAKE THAT 20 PIPS ! and when he makes a loss..he TRIES TOO HARD and places more trades or increases lots to get that daily target. this is not cool ! so i suggest that a MONTHLY target is set. an achievable target like 21% so the trader knows he needs to make 5% this week... he might make more but the 5% stays in the account. this involves discipline and until there is discipline consistency will NEVER come !

your post just boils down to compounding interest. a trader can actually turn $1000 to $1 million in the next 3 years if he makes 21.2% compounded monthly.

the 20 pip a day target is cool but it might make the trader indulge in 'over-trading' thinking he must place a trade EVERYDAY and MAKE THAT 20 PIPS ! and when he makes a loss..he TRIES TOO HARD and places more trades or increases lots to get that daily target. this is not cool ! so i suggest that a MONTHLY target is set. an achievable target like 21% so the trader knows he needs to make 5% this week... he might make more but the 5% stays in the account. this involves discipline and until there is discipline consistency will NEVER come !

*winning isnt victory and losing isnt defeat.*

Aug 30, 2010 at 11:21
(edited Aug 30, 2010 at 11:23)

Member Since May 30, 2010
64 posts

Hahaha when I saw the thread name I was like 'ohh not one of these again....'

I think most people have too high expectations, are too impatient and are not willing to practice and master the 'boring' side of what it takes to become a professional. And I'm referring to money management, psychology, risk management, amongst many other things that are needed as well.

Also many people don't have their priorities 'right' when trading, they always think of how much they could earn in a trade when they should be focusing on protecting the capital and risk management.

Enough of my ranting..

Best regards, Stefán.

I think most people have too high expectations, are too impatient and are not willing to practice and master the 'boring' side of what it takes to become a professional. And I'm referring to money management, psychology, risk management, amongst many other things that are needed as well.

Also many people don't have their priorities 'right' when trading, they always think of how much they could earn in a trade when they should be focusing on protecting the capital and risk management.

Enough of my ranting..

Best regards, Stefán.

*A person is only limited by the thoughts he chooses.*

Aug 30, 2010 at 22:19

Member Since May 18, 2010
47 posts

Will , no offense.. but that essay was not worthy when matched up with Victors summary :)

Most people get caught up in these figures game because the only thing they see is the last number ..i.e, a 1000K account..

They forget that its made in years and they try to get to that goal in months ...one thing is for sure, a real gambler and a real trader is alike....coz both take calculated risk. People say forex is not gambling...but it really is. Thats why its called speculative market...even if you are an EW or fibb expert , you are still speculating :)

If i had a 1000K i wud invent a time machine and give it for lease, so that you dont have to follow those lagging indicators anymore :D

Most people get caught up in these figures game because the only thing they see is the last number ..i.e, a 1000K account..

They forget that its made in years and they try to get to that goal in months ...one thing is for sure, a real gambler and a real trader is alike....coz both take calculated risk. People say forex is not gambling...but it really is. Thats why its called speculative market...even if you are an EW or fibb expert , you are still speculating :)

If i had a 1000K i wud invent a time machine and give it for lease, so that you dont have to follow those lagging indicators anymore :D

Gary Sharp (sharpfx)

Member Since Aug 11, 2010
3 posts

Sep 04, 2010 at 00:32

Member Since Aug 11, 2010
3 posts

Ah yes..but...gambling is gambling because you have no control over losses. Bet $1,000 and if you lose you have lost the entire $1,000. Speculate with $1,000 and if you lose your loss is limited to your stop-loss or the point at which you exit the market. Just like owning a home, if the price should begin to fall you would sell-out, right? Is that gambling?

By the way, if you start with $1 and double your money every day, how many days will it take to reach $1-million? It will take 20 days! I think the point being made is that the FX market, and the leverage available, presents a real opportunity for the average person to become wealthy PROVIDED sensible money management forms part of the traders' tool kit.

Another point of interest before I stop ranting on is the 50/50 nature of FX trading. Like flipping a coin, over time the results will be 50% heads, and 50% tails. Try it! So, roughly 50% of trades will win, and 50% of trades will lose. So, 2 to 1 odds or better is essential to long term gain. That is, a 100pip stop must be matched by a 200pip or larger take profit. Over 100 trades you lose 5,000pips, and gain 10,000 pips, for a 5,000pip net gain!

By the way, if you start with $1 and double your money every day, how many days will it take to reach $1-million? It will take 20 days! I think the point being made is that the FX market, and the leverage available, presents a real opportunity for the average person to become wealthy PROVIDED sensible money management forms part of the traders' tool kit.

Another point of interest before I stop ranting on is the 50/50 nature of FX trading. Like flipping a coin, over time the results will be 50% heads, and 50% tails. Try it! So, roughly 50% of trades will win, and 50% of trades will lose. So, 2 to 1 odds or better is essential to long term gain. That is, a 100pip stop must be matched by a 200pip or larger take profit. Over 100 trades you lose 5,000pips, and gain 10,000 pips, for a 5,000pip net gain!

pipinvestment1

Member Since Aug 14, 2010
219 posts

Sep 08, 2010 at 09:32

Member Since Aug 14, 2010
219 posts

Having goals in life adds motivation and creates a pathway to success. Without laying out some sort of structure, you cannot justify if you are on track or not. This is only an agenda and forecast of what we should be focusing on.

Just like a business, planning and building a solid foundation is the most important aspect. Most businesses fail within the first few years because of poor management and lack of capital. Now lack of capital is normally caused from the first problem- Poor management. In order to have enough capital for long term expenditures and potential growth, we need to plan for the future.

In order to plan for the future, we need goals to keep us in check. These goals are the little stepping stones that get us somewhere in life. Not the idea nor the vision.

Our priority is to make $. In order to make money, we have to conserve our capital, allowing us to make that next trade. Calculated risk = Trading, innovation, and is a necessary procedure to accomplish something on YOUR OWN. With out taking on some risk, you will have be an employee for most of your life.

Yes, we are speculators. Thats the name of the game. Some speculators are just more accurate than others.

Ultimately, they can stay solvent long enough to make another trade = Risk management.

Just like a business, planning and building a solid foundation is the most important aspect. Most businesses fail within the first few years because of poor management and lack of capital. Now lack of capital is normally caused from the first problem- Poor management. In order to have enough capital for long term expenditures and potential growth, we need to plan for the future.

In order to plan for the future, we need goals to keep us in check. These goals are the little stepping stones that get us somewhere in life. Not the idea nor the vision.

Our priority is to make $. In order to make money, we have to conserve our capital, allowing us to make that next trade. Calculated risk = Trading, innovation, and is a necessary procedure to accomplish something on YOUR OWN. With out taking on some risk, you will have be an employee for most of your life.

Yes, we are speculators. Thats the name of the game. Some speculators are just more accurate than others.

Ultimately, they can stay solvent long enough to make another trade = Risk management.

pipinvestment1

Member Since Aug 14, 2010
219 posts

Sep 08, 2010 at 09:37

Member Since Aug 14, 2010
219 posts

Voffi posted:

they always think of how much they could earn in a trade when they should be focusing on protecting the capital and risk management.

Best regards, Stefán.

Exactly. For every trade you put on, you need to determine HOW much you are willing to lose.. If the loss is greater than the return and your accuracy is under 90%, you should not take the trade and wait for a better opportunity.

Just because we may have a goal of 20 a day, does not mean we have to risk 100 pips to gain the 20 pips. That is foolish, but unfortunately, I see traders exercising this concept. HOPE and HOLD> Thats not planning, thats ending your career prematurely.. OK back to trading...

Sep 08, 2010 at 11:19

Member Since Jul 21, 2010
111 posts

I just have to say I feel that when trading with these kind of objectives it's foolish to trade with fixed lot size. Easier for sure but trading with percents makes it a lot smoother.

As I see it you strive for 10% gain every week(a huge gain btw).

e.g.

Starting balance 1000$

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1100

That's a 10% gain. If you traded with 10% gain each week(lot size likely varies every trade) you have a very different profit curve:

10% for week1 = Balance $1100

10% for week2 = Balance $1210

10% for week3 = Balance $1331

10% for week4 = Balance $1464

In first month we're 64 dollars ahead. And still you trade with 20 pips gained a day... that doesn't change. Only traded lot-size changes.

To simplify next moths(to make it even more simpler every month calculated here is 4 weeks):

Month 2 end balance = $2144 - $344 more profit

Month 3 end balance = $3138 - $938 more profit

Month 4 end balance = $4595 - $1845 more profit

Month 5 end balance = $6727

Month 6 end balance = $9850

Month 7 end balance = $14,421

Month 8 end balance = $21,114

Month 9 end balance = $30,913

Month 10 end balance = $45,259

Month 11 end balance = $66,264

1 year profit(calculated with 48 weeks only) = $97,017 - a whopping $71,017 difference to a fixed lot-size($26,000) in profits!!!!

Only difference being a percentage of balance at stake instead of trading fixed lot-size.

In three years(48 week year as calculated before) and eight months profit gained this way would be astonishing $198,730,122!! Difference of $197,330,122!!

Too incredible? Yes, definitely.

I mean 10% gain per week is insane be it fixed-lot or percentage. What if we calculated this so that we have the same profit after three years and eight months as the presented in first post but with a varied lot-size? Our weekly gain would need to be significantly smaller and far more realistic.

Our goal = $1,400,000 or so in 3 years and 8 months. Insert simple math here :) I'll just cut to the result to save us some pain.

We would only need about 5.83% gain per week to achieve this(actually less since I calculated with only a 48 week year(there are times you really don't want to trade so that's the reason for 48 weeks only)).Far more realistic objective than 10% per week thought it's still a big gain.

Just my thoughts. Feel free to rant about it.

P.S. And nothing really guarantees that one can actually make any profit in the first place. These were just calculations that IMHO prove a point about money management but this doesn't make anyone a successful trader.

As I see it you strive for 10% gain every week(a huge gain btw).

e.g.

Starting balance 1000$

20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1100

That's a 10% gain. If you traded with 10% gain each week(lot size likely varies every trade) you have a very different profit curve:

10% for week1 = Balance $1100

10% for week2 = Balance $1210

10% for week3 = Balance $1331

10% for week4 = Balance $1464

In first month we're 64 dollars ahead. And still you trade with 20 pips gained a day... that doesn't change. Only traded lot-size changes.

To simplify next moths(to make it even more simpler every month calculated here is 4 weeks):

Month 2 end balance = $2144 - $344 more profit

Month 3 end balance = $3138 - $938 more profit

Month 4 end balance = $4595 - $1845 more profit

Month 5 end balance = $6727

Month 6 end balance = $9850

Month 7 end balance = $14,421

Month 8 end balance = $21,114

Month 9 end balance = $30,913

Month 10 end balance = $45,259

Month 11 end balance = $66,264

1 year profit(calculated with 48 weeks only) = $97,017 - a whopping $71,017 difference to a fixed lot-size($26,000) in profits!!!!

Only difference being a percentage of balance at stake instead of trading fixed lot-size.

In three years(48 week year as calculated before) and eight months profit gained this way would be astonishing $198,730,122!! Difference of $197,330,122!!

Too incredible? Yes, definitely.

I mean 10% gain per week is insane be it fixed-lot or percentage. What if we calculated this so that we have the same profit after three years and eight months as the presented in first post but with a varied lot-size? Our weekly gain would need to be significantly smaller and far more realistic.

Our goal = $1,400,000 or so in 3 years and 8 months. Insert simple math here :) I'll just cut to the result to save us some pain.

We would only need about 5.83% gain per week to achieve this(actually less since I calculated with only a 48 week year(there are times you really don't want to trade so that's the reason for 48 weeks only)).Far more realistic objective than 10% per week thought it's still a big gain.

Just my thoughts. Feel free to rant about it.

P.S. And nothing really guarantees that one can actually make any profit in the first place. These were just calculations that IMHO prove a point about money management but this doesn't make anyone a successful trader.

*Less effort, better results.*

dendee

Member Since Aug 23, 2010
34 posts

Sep 08, 2010 at 16:04
(edited Sep 08, 2010 at 16:11)

Member Since Aug 23, 2010
34 posts

Sounds great system to make $1000 become $1.000.000.000 in 3 years.

For the Money Managers, maybe it can be use. It has daily target for 20 pip.

But for the part time trader just like me, as long i have chance to make green pips, i will open an order.

even it is not everyday.

For my self, i still try to make my $1000 to become $10.000, but i don't give target about how long i must get it.

About compounding, ever hear but never try before 😀

For the Money Managers, maybe it can be use. It has daily target for 20 pip.

But for the part time trader just like me, as long i have chance to make green pips, i will open an order.

even it is not everyday.

For my self, i still try to make my $1000 to become $10.000, but i don't give target about how long i must get it.

About compounding, ever hear but never try before 😀

pipinvestment1

Member Since Aug 14, 2010
219 posts

Sep 10, 2010 at 11:51

Member Since Aug 14, 2010
219 posts

Ok- This week I am at 100pips and almost at 10% gain this week. I may take another scalp in US session, to make a 10% gain.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pipinvestment1/central-bank-shop-vac-x2/48382

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pipinvestment1/central-bank-shop-vac-x2/48382

Steve B (stevetrade)

Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1415 posts

Sep 10, 2010 at 12:02

Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1415 posts

Nice work Will, looking forward to getting on board with this.

*11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.*

Steve B (stevetrade)

Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1415 posts

Sep 10, 2010 at 12:24

Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1415 posts

Excellent, I shall look forward to hearing it.

Sep 14, 2010 at 23:11

Member Since Aug 22, 2010
5 posts

I have just opened a new $1000 real account and will be ecstatic if I can hit 100K.

Will be interesting, seeing that I am a part time trader.

Thanks to everyone that has helped me get set up here on myFXbook.com.

Happy Trading,

Steve

Will be interesting, seeing that I am a part time trader.

Thanks to everyone that has helped me get set up here on myFXbook.com.

Happy Trading,

Steve

*Trying to increase my portfolio one pip at a time!*

Member Since Jan 14, 2010
2299 posts

Oct 30, 2010 at 17:19

Member Since Jan 14, 2010
2299 posts

This idea has some sense. Last month or so, I have been working on letting profits run well beyond I usually did with improved entries. I have been closing half of my position somewhere between 30-50 pips and move stop to BE letting the rest run. I guess the month was not very good for letting profits run as all trends on pairs I am trading are in suspension, reversing or ranging. So, I calculated, that had I closed all trades completely at where i closed only half position my returns would have been much better., But over long term , I guess it still has sense to let profits run for more pips. Just let half position run and simply to continue same thing looking for opportunities and entering closing half position at some predetermined target, moving stop to BE and letting the rest run. It is should be done very obviously only with trending pairs.

I think 20 take profit might be too little as it implies risk of about 20 pips which is too little in my opinion. I guess more reasonable stops are 40-50 pips with similar goals. Position size should be set accordingly, but I would not risk more than 2% per trade. I tested 3% daily, it can be quite dangerous when 2% is ok and 1% is obviously the safest.

I think 20 take profit might be too little as it implies risk of about 20 pips which is too little in my opinion. I guess more reasonable stops are 40-50 pips with similar goals. Position size should be set accordingly, but I would not risk more than 2% per trade. I tested 3% daily, it can be quite dangerous when 2% is ok and 1% is obviously the safest.

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2299 posts

Oct 30, 2010 at 17:21

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1 %,2% or 3% per trade not per day

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