How many pips a day ?

Nov 09, 2018 at 10:47
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Member Since Feb 22, 2011   4862 posts
Feb 13, 2019 at 07:40
expkhaled posted:
Penrose2000 posted:
Daily is quite a short time frame to look at pips. I only look at monthly pips count. I am getting around 300 now but made a loss for long time
Hey Man, just control your speed. I dont know how its possible...whats your system. Can you please tell me about your system. 20-30pip is risk free I think.

300 pips per month is not difficult.
Member Since Feb 13, 2019   10 posts
Feb 14, 2019 at 08:48
It is for me. You have very good profile. Do you every explain any of your strategy? I would do almost anything to have 300 pips a month
Member Since Sep 12, 2018   22 posts
Feb 15, 2019 at 13:02
togr posted:
expkhaled posted:
Penrose2000 posted:
Daily is quite a short time frame to look at pips. I only look at monthly pips count. I am getting around 300 now but made a loss for long time
Hey Man, just control your speed. I dont know how its possible...whats your system. Can you please tell me about your system. 20-30pip is risk free I think.

300 pips per month is not difficult.
oh yea. i think its ok...I thought 300 per day....ok fine go ahead
Day by day having better, better and better...
Member Since Feb 10, 2019   54 posts
Feb 15, 2019 at 13:50
40 per day
Member Since Feb 22, 2011   4862 posts
Feb 15, 2019 at 13:50
BipinBike posted:
It is for me. You have very good profile. Do you every explain any of your strategy? I would do almost anything to have 300 pips a month

It is really not that difficult

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Member Since Feb 03, 2019   1 posts
Feb 15, 2019 at 13:51
It's not terribly hard for 300 pips a month, get a good grasp of technicals and general awareness of fundamentals, in the last three days i've gained about 230 pips. The things you need to be aware of are placing your stops in safe spots, not rushing into trades, and trusting your analysis but being aware of market risk sentiment.
Member Since Feb 08, 2019   213 posts
Feb 15, 2019 at 14:11
5 pips a day will set you free.....
Member Since Feb 22, 2011   4862 posts
Feb 15, 2019 at 14:16 (edited Feb 15, 2019 at 14:16)
Treeny posted:
5 pips a day will set you free.....

Not exactly. You would need big trades to make some useable profit. When you place big trades you need big capital to stay safe. When you have big capital you will are careful and need better plan than just 5 pips a day.
Member Since Aug 10, 2017   1 posts
Feb 17, 2019 at 07:23
in a day

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Member Since Feb 14, 2019   28 posts
Feb 17, 2019 at 07:53
Treeny posted:
5 pips a day will set you free.....

 Agreed. Simple minded trades say that you need a BIG ACCOUNT, but no matter the size of the account, risk management SHOuLD always remain the same. If you believe that risking more than 2% of your total account is not something you should never do, then yo create your system around it.
Member Since Dec 28, 2013   171 posts
Feb 17, 2019 at 09:44
EUforexHack posted:
Treeny posted:
5 pips a day will set you free.....

 Agreed. Simple minded trades say that you need a BIG ACCOUNT, but no matter the size of the account, risk management SHOuLD always remain the same. If you believe that risking more than 2% of your total account is not something you should never do, then yo create your system around it.

I'm not mathematician, but somehow I believe that win rate and the ability to risk more than 2% successfully is somehow interrelated. Nowadays I rarely have a losing streak, I'n my opinion, I should be able to risk more than 2%, perhaps 5% or even more. Any opinions on this? Intuitively, if a trading style has a string of losses, then one single trade should have a tighter limit for loss %.

Risk profile and money management should be implemented according to the trading strategy. If strategy changes, then money & risk management should be modified, too.
Member Since Feb 14, 2019   28 posts
Feb 17, 2019 at 14:37
niceGLer posted:
EUforexHack posted:
Treeny posted:
5 pips a day will set you free.....

 Agreed. Simple minded trades say that you need a BIG ACCOUNT, but no matter the size of the account, risk management SHOuLD always remain the same. If you believe that risking more than 2% of your total account is not something you should never do, then yo create your system around it.

I'm not mathematician, but somehow I believe that win rate and the ability to risk more than 2% successfully is somehow interrelated. Nowadays I rarely have a losing streak, I'n my opinion, I should be able to risk more than 2%, perhaps 5% or even more. Any opinions on this? Intuitively, if a trading style has a string of losses, then one single trade should have a tighter limit for loss %.

Risk profile and money management should be implemented according to the trading strategy. If strategy changes, then money & risk management should be modified, too.

 Exactly. Now, one states that he or she doesnt have many straight losses, but it could be based on randomness or an edge. If it is an edge, then one shold be using martingale money management to offset the last loss or losses in order to make a small profit over the sequence of trades.
Member Since Dec 28, 2013   171 posts
Feb 17, 2019 at 15:15
EUforexHack posted:
niceGLer posted:
EUforexHack posted:
Treeny posted:
5 pips a day will set you free.....

 Agreed. Simple minded trades say that you need a BIG ACCOUNT, but no matter the size of the account, risk management SHOuLD always remain the same. If you believe that risking more than 2% of your total account is not something you should never do, then yo create your system around it.

I'm not mathematician, but somehow I believe that win rate and the ability to risk more than 2% successfully is somehow interrelated. Nowadays I rarely have a losing streak, I'n my opinion, I should be able to risk more than 2%, perhaps 5% or even more. Any opinions on this? Intuitively, if a trading style has a string of losses, then one single trade should have a tighter limit for loss %.

Risk profile and money management should be implemented according to the trading strategy. If strategy changes, then money & risk management should be modified, too.

 Exactly. Now, one states that he or she doesnt have many straight losses, but it could be based on randomness or an edge. If it is an edge, then one shold be using martingale money management to offset the last loss or losses in order to make a small profit over the sequence of trades.

I don't know about martingale, but I would increase betting while winning and scale down when losing :) Isn't it a bit contrary to martingale?
Member Since Feb 14, 2019   28 posts
Feb 18, 2019 at 06:58
niceGLer posted:
EUforexHack posted:
niceGLer posted:
EUforexHack posted:
Treeny posted:
5 pips a day will set you free.....

 Agreed. Simple minded trades say that you need a BIG ACCOUNT, but no matter the size of the account, risk management SHOuLD always remain the same. If you believe that risking more than 2% of your total account is not something you should never do, then yo create your system around it.

I'm not mathematician, but somehow I believe that win rate and the ability to risk more than 2% successfully is somehow interrelated. Nowadays I rarely have a losing streak, I'n my opinion, I should be able to risk more than 2%, perhaps 5% or even more. Any opinions on this? Intuitively, if a trading style has a string of losses, then one single trade should have a tighter limit for loss %.

Risk profile and money management should be implemented according to the trading strategy. If strategy changes, then money & risk management should be modified, too.

 Exactly. Now, one states that he or she doesnt have many straight losses, but it could be based on randomness or an edge. If it is an edge, then one shold be using martingale money management to offset the last loss or losses in order to make a small profit over the sequence of trades.

I don't know about martingale, but I would increase betting while winning and scale down when losing :) Isn't it a bit contrary to martingale?


 Martingale results in you increasing lot size after a loss. This allows one to recover quicker from the previous loss or losses. The issue is, simply thinking that you can't lose forever isnt a valid trading system. Which is why oe finds a system, and some sort of edge where the number of consecutive losses are greatly diminished after every loss. That is when you scale in your money management.
Member Since Feb 22, 2011   4862 posts
Feb 18, 2019 at 11:59
EUforexHack posted:
Treeny posted:
5 pips a day will set you free.....

 Agreed. Simple minded trades say that you need a BIG ACCOUNT, but no matter the size of the account, risk management SHOuLD always remain the same. If you believe that risking more than 2% of your total account is not something you should never do, then yo create your system around it.

5 pips a day is not risk management
5 pips a day is relatively small profit
To make living with 5 pips a day you need big trades.
I hope I wrote it so simply even you can understand it :)
Member Since Dec 12, 2018   10 posts
Feb 18, 2019 at 14:31
If you make on average 5 pips a day every day that is around 1250 pips a year. If you start with 1 Lot, compound your account and increase the stake size that is some pretty good annual profit.
Member Since Feb 14, 2019   28 posts
Feb 18, 2019 at 15:32
Pacifico posted:
If you make on average 5 pips a day every day that is around 1250 pips a year. If you start with 1 Lot, compound your account and increase the stake size that is some pretty good annual profit.

 That is just it. Fools make statements that one can`t profit with such small lots, when the reaity is if you have an accurate system, you wont have to aim for large amount of pips anyway. Say I want to risk 5% of my account on one recommendation. I can have a 5 pip sl and make it where each pip is 1% risk! With an accurate system, even 5 pips would seem like 100 pip and hard to hit if you have a great understanding of tick charts. When people trde the horly and monthly, clearly 5 pips wont even fall into your calculation.
Member Since Feb 08, 2019   213 posts
Feb 24, 2019 at 13:50
Agree with many of the comments and yes 5 pips a day will not set you free if you stick to tiny lot sizes. What sets you free is the compound effect of that 5 pips per day.........
Member Since Sep 12, 2015   1948 posts
Feb 24, 2019 at 21:24
If your going to be cashing in everytime you hit 10 pips ,your stop is going to be 3 pips which is way to little ,if its 5 pips stop 1 in 2 trades has to win to break even ,thats without fees ,typical stop for EUR/USD is at least 20-30 pips intra- day.Other pairs are different so do your homework before deciding.
"They mistook leverage with genius".
Member Since Dec 28, 2013   171 posts
Feb 25, 2019 at 04:42
snapdragon1970 posted:
If your going to be cashing in everytime you hit 10 pips ,your stop is going to be 3 pips which is way to little ,if its 5 pips stop 1 in 2 trades has to win to break even ,thats without fees ,typical stop for EUR/USD is at least 20-30 pips intra- day.Other pairs are different so do your homework before deciding.

I agree with this. Some sources recommend for scalping 7-8 pips stop loss, but I think stop loss should be more than 10. I agree with 20-30, while 30 is a bit excessive. But in order to prevent a catastrophic flash crash 30 pips is more than Ok in daily trading.
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