The Great Pretender (By sangmane)
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The Great Pretender Discussion
Member Since Apr 14, 2011
72 posts
Apr 15, 2011 at 00:18
I concur. Most of the people begging on here do not have the intelligence nor the guts to be in this game. Even if they received the strategy, they won't have the guts to trade that strategy.
Never ever ever give up!!!
Member Since Apr 14, 2011
72 posts
Apr 15, 2011 at 02:23
Besides, clearly people begging for info do not still realize that these people are uploading backtests. How come none of them are running actual live accounts or even a demo account on here? Huh? Well? Don't beg for strategy info from people who are only uploading backtest results on here when they should be running live accounts... at least a demo account. They all probably ran curve fitting data for weeks on end to arrive at the most perfect looking results and then upload them.
Never ever ever give up!!!
Apr 16, 2011 at 18:23
Hi Jonny,
Sorry I'm kinda new here and I gotta admit, been trading for about a year now but have made more losses than gains. I just wanna ask, how do you know that this guy is actually uploading backtests. Is it possible to see it on his profile. No offense, but I just wanna know cos I'm thinkin of giving my money to one of this guys to manage cos I'm gettin frustrated over here.
Appreciate your response
Sorry I'm kinda new here and I gotta admit, been trading for about a year now but have made more losses than gains. I just wanna ask, how do you know that this guy is actually uploading backtests. Is it possible to see it on his profile. No offense, but I just wanna know cos I'm thinkin of giving my money to one of this guys to manage cos I'm gettin frustrated over here.
Appreciate your response
Good day, I'm OK. Bad day, I'm OK. What's the difference?
Apr 18, 2011 at 02:13
f_roms posted:
Hi Jonny,
Sorry I'm kinda new here and I gotta admit, been trading for about a year now but have made more losses than gains. I just wanna ask, how do you know that this guy is actually uploading backtests. Is it possible to see it on his profile. No offense, but I just wanna know cos I'm thinkin of giving my money to one of this guys to manage cos I'm gettin frustrated over here.
Appreciate your response
Do Not Even Think About It... I win 10% to 20% a month with over 85% of my trades winning ones. The claims above are impossible. There is no way. Do not throw away your money. Just some good advice.
Apr 18, 2011 at 02:19
OH MY G-D Not Even The Saying Was Correct. I Lost The Prize Of $1,000,000
PLEASE READ !!!
P. T. Barnum Never Did Say
'There's a Sucker Born Every Minute'
By R. J. Brown
Editor-in-Chief
P. T. Barnum is most often associated with the circus sideshow and the display of freaks. While this is true, he is also the founding force behind one of America's most famous circuses: Barnum & Bailey Circus. Barnum is also affiliated with the famous quote 'There's a sucker born every minute.' History, unfortunately, has misdirected this quotation. Barnum never did say it. Actually, it was said by his competitor. Here's the incredible story.
From 1866 until 1868 Mr. George Hull, of Binghamton, New York studied archeology and paleontology. Over this period of time Hull contemplated how to pull off a hoax. It seems that many an evangelist at the time had been preaching that there were giants in the earth. In June of 1868 Hull traveled back to Fort Dodge, Iowa where there was a gypsum quarry he had recalled seeing two years earlier. Even then, he had noticed that the dark blue streaks running through the soft lime rock resembled human veins. Realizing this its appearance was tailor-made for his hoax and it was easy to carve, Hull hired a group of quarry workers to cut off a slab measuring twelve feet long, four feet wide and two feet thick.
In November, Hull had his gypsum wrapped in canvas and hoisted onto a wagon. Since the nearest railroad was forty miles away, it proved to be a long, difficult job. He then had the slab of gypsum shipped by rail to Chicago where he had hired a stone cutter named Edward Burghardt to carve a giant. Burghardt and his two assistants, were sworn to secrecy and agreed to work on the piece in a secluded barn during their off hours and Sundays. The instructions were to carve the giant as if it had died in great pain, and the final result was an eerie figure, slightly twisted in apparent agony, with his right hand clutching his stomach. All of the details were there; toenails, fingernails, nostrils, sex organs and so forth. Even a needlepoint mallet was used to add authentic-looking skin pores. When the carving was done, sulfuric acid and ink were used, possibly smudged like printer ink, to make the figure look aged.
The giant finished, Hull then had the figure shipped by rail to the farm of William Newell, his cousin, located near the town of Cardiff, New York. In the dead of night, Hull, Newell and his oldest son buried the giant between the barn and house. They were instructed to say nothing about it and that Hull would let them know in about a year of what the next stage was.
Luckily, about six months later, on another farm near the Newell's, some million year-old fossil bones were dug up. Newspapers around the country reported the finding. Hull was filled with glee in reading the accounts.
True to his word, one year after burying the giant, Hull sent word to his cousin on October 15, 1869, to start the next stage of the hoax. Newell hired two laborers to dig a new well near his home. Newell directed them to the exact spot he wanted the well dug and went back into the house to wait -- anxiously. Sure enough, well into the day, the two laborers rushed up to the house to announce their discovery: a giant turned to stone! The laborers and both Newells carefully excavated the area surrounding the giant.
News of this amazing discovery spread throughout the valley and soon wagon loads of neighbors streamed into Newell's farm to see the giant. By mid-afternoon, Newell erected a tent around the 'grave' and started charging 25 cent admission. Two days later, the Syracuse Journal (New York) printed an article about the discovery. Being greedy, Newell raised the price to 50 cents, and a stage coach company made four round trips a day from Syracuse to the Newell farm. Thousands came every day. Among the visitors were clergymen, college professors and distinguished scientists. Before long, the expert's opinions split into two theories; one side claimed it was a true fossilized human giant and the other side pronounced it an authentic ancient statue. No one asserted that it was a fake!
About ten days after the discovery, and about the time the Cardiff Giant, as the papers had named it, started receiving national attention, Hull sold two-thirds interest in the giant for $30,000 to a five-man syndicate in Syracuse, the head of which was a banker named David Hannum. The syndicate moved the giant to an exhibition hall in Syracuse and raised the admission price to a dollar a head. Unknown to them, P. T. Barnum sent an agent to see the giant and make an assessment. The particular Sunday the representative saw the giant, the crowds were abnormally large -- about 3,000 people. The agent wired the news back to Barnum and Barnum instructed him to make an offer of $50,000 to buy it. Hannum turned his offer down.
The Cardiff Giant was the most talked about exhibit in the nation. Barnum wanted the giant to display himself while the attraction was still a hot topic of the day. Rather than upping his offer, Barnum hired a crew of workers to carve a giant of his own. Within a short time, Barnum unveiled HIS giant and proclaimed that Hannum had sold Barnum the original giant and that Hannum was now displaying a fake! Thousands of people flocked to see Barnum's giant. Many newspapers carried the version that Barnum had given them; that is, Hannum's giant was a fake and Barnum's was authentic. It is at this point that Hannum -- NOT BARNUM -- was quoted as saying 'There's a sucker born every minute.' Hannum, still under the impression that HIS giant was authentic, was referring to the thousands of 'fools' that paid money to see Barnum's fake and not his authentic one.
Hannum brought a lawsuit against Barnum for calling his giant a fake. When it came to trial, Hull stepped forward and confessed that the Cardiff Giant was a hoax and the entire story. The judge ruled that Barnum could not be sued for calling Hannum's giant a fake since it was a fake after all. Thereafter, Hannum's name was lost to history while Barnum was left with the misplaced stigma of being the one to say 'There's a sucker born every minute.'
PLEASE READ !!!
P. T. Barnum Never Did Say
'There's a Sucker Born Every Minute'
By R. J. Brown
Editor-in-Chief
P. T. Barnum is most often associated with the circus sideshow and the display of freaks. While this is true, he is also the founding force behind one of America's most famous circuses: Barnum & Bailey Circus. Barnum is also affiliated with the famous quote 'There's a sucker born every minute.' History, unfortunately, has misdirected this quotation. Barnum never did say it. Actually, it was said by his competitor. Here's the incredible story.
From 1866 until 1868 Mr. George Hull, of Binghamton, New York studied archeology and paleontology. Over this period of time Hull contemplated how to pull off a hoax. It seems that many an evangelist at the time had been preaching that there were giants in the earth. In June of 1868 Hull traveled back to Fort Dodge, Iowa where there was a gypsum quarry he had recalled seeing two years earlier. Even then, he had noticed that the dark blue streaks running through the soft lime rock resembled human veins. Realizing this its appearance was tailor-made for his hoax and it was easy to carve, Hull hired a group of quarry workers to cut off a slab measuring twelve feet long, four feet wide and two feet thick.
In November, Hull had his gypsum wrapped in canvas and hoisted onto a wagon. Since the nearest railroad was forty miles away, it proved to be a long, difficult job. He then had the slab of gypsum shipped by rail to Chicago where he had hired a stone cutter named Edward Burghardt to carve a giant. Burghardt and his two assistants, were sworn to secrecy and agreed to work on the piece in a secluded barn during their off hours and Sundays. The instructions were to carve the giant as if it had died in great pain, and the final result was an eerie figure, slightly twisted in apparent agony, with his right hand clutching his stomach. All of the details were there; toenails, fingernails, nostrils, sex organs and so forth. Even a needlepoint mallet was used to add authentic-looking skin pores. When the carving was done, sulfuric acid and ink were used, possibly smudged like printer ink, to make the figure look aged.
The giant finished, Hull then had the figure shipped by rail to the farm of William Newell, his cousin, located near the town of Cardiff, New York. In the dead of night, Hull, Newell and his oldest son buried the giant between the barn and house. They were instructed to say nothing about it and that Hull would let them know in about a year of what the next stage was.
Luckily, about six months later, on another farm near the Newell's, some million year-old fossil bones were dug up. Newspapers around the country reported the finding. Hull was filled with glee in reading the accounts.
True to his word, one year after burying the giant, Hull sent word to his cousin on October 15, 1869, to start the next stage of the hoax. Newell hired two laborers to dig a new well near his home. Newell directed them to the exact spot he wanted the well dug and went back into the house to wait -- anxiously. Sure enough, well into the day, the two laborers rushed up to the house to announce their discovery: a giant turned to stone! The laborers and both Newells carefully excavated the area surrounding the giant.
News of this amazing discovery spread throughout the valley and soon wagon loads of neighbors streamed into Newell's farm to see the giant. By mid-afternoon, Newell erected a tent around the 'grave' and started charging 25 cent admission. Two days later, the Syracuse Journal (New York) printed an article about the discovery. Being greedy, Newell raised the price to 50 cents, and a stage coach company made four round trips a day from Syracuse to the Newell farm. Thousands came every day. Among the visitors were clergymen, college professors and distinguished scientists. Before long, the expert's opinions split into two theories; one side claimed it was a true fossilized human giant and the other side pronounced it an authentic ancient statue. No one asserted that it was a fake!
About ten days after the discovery, and about the time the Cardiff Giant, as the papers had named it, started receiving national attention, Hull sold two-thirds interest in the giant for $30,000 to a five-man syndicate in Syracuse, the head of which was a banker named David Hannum. The syndicate moved the giant to an exhibition hall in Syracuse and raised the admission price to a dollar a head. Unknown to them, P. T. Barnum sent an agent to see the giant and make an assessment. The particular Sunday the representative saw the giant, the crowds were abnormally large -- about 3,000 people. The agent wired the news back to Barnum and Barnum instructed him to make an offer of $50,000 to buy it. Hannum turned his offer down.
The Cardiff Giant was the most talked about exhibit in the nation. Barnum wanted the giant to display himself while the attraction was still a hot topic of the day. Rather than upping his offer, Barnum hired a crew of workers to carve a giant of his own. Within a short time, Barnum unveiled HIS giant and proclaimed that Hannum had sold Barnum the original giant and that Hannum was now displaying a fake! Thousands of people flocked to see Barnum's giant. Many newspapers carried the version that Barnum had given them; that is, Hannum's giant was a fake and Barnum's was authentic. It is at this point that Hannum -- NOT BARNUM -- was quoted as saying 'There's a sucker born every minute.' Hannum, still under the impression that HIS giant was authentic, was referring to the thousands of 'fools' that paid money to see Barnum's fake and not his authentic one.
Hannum brought a lawsuit against Barnum for calling his giant a fake. When it came to trial, Hull stepped forward and confessed that the Cardiff Giant was a hoax and the entire story. The judge ruled that Barnum could not be sued for calling Hannum's giant a fake since it was a fake after all. Thereafter, Hannum's name was lost to history while Barnum was left with the misplaced stigma of being the one to say 'There's a sucker born every minute.'
forex_trader_27988
Member Since Jan 26, 2011
1367 posts
Apr 18, 2011 at 19:08
PLEASE READ!!! LIFE IS GOOD!
<B>Oleander Poisoning in Cattle
John Kirk, John Adaska and Pat Blanchard
Veterinary Medicine Extension, University of California Davis (Kirk) and California Animal Health and Food Safety Laboratory (Adaska, Blanchard), Veterinary Medical Teaching and Research Center, Tulare, CA.
One of the most common ornamental plants seen across California is oleander. This evergreen shrub is commonly used as a highway median divider or hedge around yards or orchards. The flowers often catch our eyes as they occur in beautiful white, red and pink colors. However, these plants are a definite potential danger to all animals and humans. All parts of the plant either fresh or dried contain several toxins that affect the heart. There is no specific treatment once a toxic dose of the plant has been eaten. Symptomatic treatments are often attempted but are usually unsuccessful.
Most oleander poisonings occur when plant clippings are thrown over the fence into livestock pastures. Often the oleander clippings or trimming are thrown in the pasture by well-meaning neighbor who think they are doing the cattle a favor. Occasionally, oleander becomes baled with hay or chopped into silage for cattle feed. Intake of leaves at 0.005% of body weight can be lethal to cattle. This equates to about 0.08 lbs plant or about 10-20 leaves for a 1500 lb cow. Human cases have happened when oleander twigs were used for meat skewers. A single leaf has been reported to be fatal to a small human.
Animals exposed to oleander are often found suddenly dead. When noted while still alive, signs of oleander poisoning are severe diarrhea with abdominal pain along with sweating, trembling and weakness. If examined, the poisoned animal may have an irregular heart rate. The poisoned animal becomes progressively paralyzed. Eventually they enter a coma and die. The signs become apparent within a few hours after eating the plant and death is rapid.
A presumptive diagnosis can be made for oleander poisoning by finding leaves or clippings in the area when the animals became sick or died. In some cases, oleander leaves may be identified in the ingesta or rumen contents of the cattle; however, the leaves are often chewed up beyond recognition. The California Animal Health and Food Safety Laboratory has developed laboratory tests that can detect oleandrin, one of the toxic elements in oleander, in the rumen or cecal contents as well as feces and milk. This test is very helpful when the actual leaves cannot be found.
These recent case histories serve to illustrate factors involved with oleander poisoning in cattle. On one dairy, oleander clippings were the source of the deaths of two dairy heifers and several others became ill but recovered. Five heifers from 400 died from oleander poisoning in a pasture next to a housing development that was ringed with oleander. In another case, 24 of 200 cows died within 1 to 3 days after consuming hay that contained oleander. In this case, the oleander toxin was found in the milk during necropsy of the dead cows. As a result of this finding, milk was discarded from the affected pen of cows. In another case, a gardener dumped a load of oleander clipping into a dry lot containing 120 heifers. By the next afternoon, 5 had died, 2 were severely ill and 30 more had diarrhea.
In summary, oleanders are beautiful plants but very toxic to cattle and humans. Often cattle are found suddenly dead while at other times they are ill showing diarrhea, sweating, trembling or weakness. The toxin does appear in the milk. Treatment is routinely not successfully. The source is usually oleander clippings or trimming that should be removed immediately to prevent further consumption by the cattle. The California Animal Health and Food Safety Laboratory has the capabilities to make a diagnosis of oleander poisoning by testing intestinal contents, feces or milk.
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<B>Oleander Poisoning in Cattle
John Kirk, John Adaska and Pat Blanchard
Veterinary Medicine Extension, University of California Davis (Kirk) and California Animal Health and Food Safety Laboratory (Adaska, Blanchard), Veterinary Medical Teaching and Research Center, Tulare, CA.
One of the most common ornamental plants seen across California is oleander. This evergreen shrub is commonly used as a highway median divider or hedge around yards or orchards. The flowers often catch our eyes as they occur in beautiful white, red and pink colors. However, these plants are a definite potential danger to all animals and humans. All parts of the plant either fresh or dried contain several toxins that affect the heart. There is no specific treatment once a toxic dose of the plant has been eaten. Symptomatic treatments are often attempted but are usually unsuccessful.
Most oleander poisonings occur when plant clippings are thrown over the fence into livestock pastures. Often the oleander clippings or trimming are thrown in the pasture by well-meaning neighbor who think they are doing the cattle a favor. Occasionally, oleander becomes baled with hay or chopped into silage for cattle feed. Intake of leaves at 0.005% of body weight can be lethal to cattle. This equates to about 0.08 lbs plant or about 10-20 leaves for a 1500 lb cow. Human cases have happened when oleander twigs were used for meat skewers. A single leaf has been reported to be fatal to a small human.
Animals exposed to oleander are often found suddenly dead. When noted while still alive, signs of oleander poisoning are severe diarrhea with abdominal pain along with sweating, trembling and weakness. If examined, the poisoned animal may have an irregular heart rate. The poisoned animal becomes progressively paralyzed. Eventually they enter a coma and die. The signs become apparent within a few hours after eating the plant and death is rapid.
A presumptive diagnosis can be made for oleander poisoning by finding leaves or clippings in the area when the animals became sick or died. In some cases, oleander leaves may be identified in the ingesta or rumen contents of the cattle; however, the leaves are often chewed up beyond recognition. The California Animal Health and Food Safety Laboratory has developed laboratory tests that can detect oleandrin, one of the toxic elements in oleander, in the rumen or cecal contents as well as feces and milk. This test is very helpful when the actual leaves cannot be found.
These recent case histories serve to illustrate factors involved with oleander poisoning in cattle. On one dairy, oleander clippings were the source of the deaths of two dairy heifers and several others became ill but recovered. Five heifers from 400 died from oleander poisoning in a pasture next to a housing development that was ringed with oleander. In another case, 24 of 200 cows died within 1 to 3 days after consuming hay that contained oleander. In this case, the oleander toxin was found in the milk during necropsy of the dead cows. As a result of this finding, milk was discarded from the affected pen of cows. In another case, a gardener dumped a load of oleander clipping into a dry lot containing 120 heifers. By the next afternoon, 5 had died, 2 were severely ill and 30 more had diarrhea.
In summary, oleanders are beautiful plants but very toxic to cattle and humans. Often cattle are found suddenly dead while at other times they are ill showing diarrhea, sweating, trembling or weakness. The toxin does appear in the milk. Treatment is routinely not successfully. The source is usually oleander clippings or trimming that should be removed immediately to prevent further consumption by the cattle. The California Animal Health and Food Safety Laboratory has the capabilities to make a diagnosis of oleander poisoning by testing intestinal contents, feces or milk.
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forex_trader_27988
Member Since Jan 26, 2011
1367 posts
Apr 18, 2011 at 19:10
Diamond posted:
f_roms posted:
Hi Jonny,
Sorry I'm kinda new here and I gotta admit, been trading for about a year now but have made more losses than gains. I just wanna ask, how do you know that this guy is actually uploading backtests. Is it possible to see it on his profile. No offense, but I just wanna know cos I'm thinkin of giving my money to one of this guys to manage cos I'm gettin frustrated over here.
Appreciate your response
Do Not Even Think About It... I win 10% to 20% a month with over 85% of my trades winning ones. The claims above are impossible. There is no way. Do not throw away your money. Just some good advice.
just some good bs, more like it.
z/.
forex_trader_12656
Member Since May 30, 2010
23 posts
Apr 24, 2011 at 06:18
(edited Apr 24, 2011 at 06:21)
luckyguy posted:
can you share your strategy please?
Thanks
heh, this Great Pretender (just the name tells it !!!) is NOT a tradable strategy, it's an exploit of the metatrader strategy tester, just as all the miraculous EAs with gazillion gains alongside near zero drawdowns promoted on this site. Btw Sangmane is one of the most honest people I have seen over at FF, and a great coder. He just pointed to the numerous nonsensical scams luring all over here to catch poor believers like you and rip them off their money. Don't ever rely on a backtest judging a strategy and ignore the impossible - that's the warning message behind The Great Pretender. Got it?
forex_trader_2062
Member Since Oct 24, 2009
186 posts
May 05, 2011 at 17:04
I have a real one you can try out, contact me [email protected]
forex_trader_32418
Member Since Mar 22, 2011
17 posts
Jun 03, 2011 at 12:04
can you share your strategy please?
Thank you
Thank you
forex_trader_2062
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186 posts
Jun 03, 2011 at 12:12
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