Best Forex Robot - Account Doubler EA Discussion

fx5473br posted:
@Jaytrader2, i tried this QMC signal but according to my test and some two or three other users our accounts never match the master account... the number and the date/time od the trades were not the same so he's showing on the master account something that we wont have in our accounts... for me its unfair since we usually are looking for something closer to the master account
In the begining he gave me some excuses thats because my vps i tried to check that and i was running other EA in the same vps and this other were doing fine....

@ForexPro, I saw that phone number too... so did you ask for a refund? anyone here did that already?

You verified today on PayPal that you are working and get paid for someone, who sells an EA, Robot or Signal or that you are self the one who sells an EA or Signals.

You verified also that you abused our signals to make your signal more attractive for customers. Everthing long-term planned.

You knew quite well that our signal can only make profit when there is a good connectivity. But you went offline to create an account which is going negative (in minus!). Telling everybody that you have plenty of very good VPS services which run so pretty well.

Than you published this account here, to let us shine here in a negative light. Telling the people that we are scammers, lyers and send fake signal, you bloody lyer, you!

And especially ACCOUNT DOUBLER / BEST FOREX EA ran so well on your account. HOW SURPRISING !!! That makes us even more sure that you are the a''' hole, who created and sold this fu****g BEST FOREX EA / ACCOUNT DOUBLER.

You also verified, that you made this all, just to get more people to pay for your Signal. To make it more attractive for customers than ours.

We are now convinced, that you are the seller of this bu*l'sh*t signal 'Best Forex Robot/ Account Doubler'

With ours Signal this would never happend!

We do not send just 5, 6 or 7 trades per day, as you bloody lyer did.

WE send about 70 TRADES and around 500 signals EVERY DAY. 500 signals directly to your MT4 to open, adjust, modify and close the trades.

We are Loughing Out Loud ( LOL ) or better Very LOL about 7 trades which go in LOSS. That is just 10% of our trades.

Better remember next time you want to abuse us: WE HATE SCAMMERS. WE FACED ENOUGH FOR THE REST OF OUR LIFETIME !!!

Yours COMPLETE I-Make-You-Rich Team
I-Make-You-Rich.com

Wow really scammer hahaha.... copy another signal trader and then sold the signal by copying from 1st signal trader.

Did anybody heared anything about the guys who created this mess here?

I have written a mail to Hotforex so they pay you the Commission IB.All those who have account in Hotforex that do the same thing to write an email so that do not pay you anything.

OrtwinRich posted:

fx5473br posted:
@Jaytrader2, i tried this QMC signal but according to my test and some two or three other users our accounts never match the master account... the number and the date/time od the trades were not the same so he's showing on the master account something that we wont have in our accounts... for me its unfair since we usually are looking for something closer to the master account
In the begining he gave me some excuses thats because my vps i tried to check that and i was running other EA in the same vps and this other were doing fine....

@ForexPro, I saw that phone number too... so did you ask for a refund? anyone here did that already?

You verified today on PayPal that you are working and get paid for someone, who sells an EA, Robot or Signal or that you are self the one who sells an EA or Signals.

You verified also that you abused our signals to make your signal more attractive for customers. Everthing long-term planned.

You knew quite well that our signal can only make profit when there is a good connectivity. But you went offline to create an account which is going negative (in minus!). Telling everybody that you have plenty of very good VPS services which run so pretty well.

Than you published this account here, to let us shine here in a negative light. Telling the people that we are scammers, lyers and send fake signal, you bloody lyer, you!

And especially ACCOUNT DOUBLER / BEST FOREX EA ran so well on your account. HOW SURPRISING !!! That makes us even more sure that you are the a''' hole, who created and sold this fu****g BEST FOREX EA / ACCOUNT DOUBLER.

You also verified, that you made this all, just to get more people to pay for your Signal. To make it more attractive for customers than ours.

We are now convinced, that you are the seller of this bu*l'sh*t signal 'Best Forex Robot/ Account Doubler'

With ours Signal this would never happend!

We do not send just 5, 6 or 7 trades per day, as you bloody lyer did.

WE send about 70 TRADES and around 500 signals EVERY DAY. 500 signals directly to your MT4 to open, adjust, modify and close the trades.

We are Loughing Out Loud ( LOL ) or better Very LOL about 7 trades which go in LOSS. That is just 10% of our trades.

Better remember next time you want to abuse us: WE HATE SCAMMERS. WE FACED ENOUGH FOR THE REST OF OUR LIFETIME !!!

Yours COMPLETE I-Make-You-Rich Team
I-Make-You-Rich.com

Oh hell... BUSTED!!!

NikX posted:

OrtwinRich posted:

fx5473br posted:
@Jaytrader2, i tried this QMC signal but according to my test and some two or three other users our accounts never match the master account... the number and the date/time od the trades were not the same so he's showing on the master account something that we wont have in our accounts... for me its unfair since we usually are looking for something closer to the master account
In the begining he gave me some excuses thats because my vps i tried to check that and i was running other EA in the same vps and this other were doing fine....

@ForexPro, I saw that phone number too... so did you ask for a refund? anyone here did that already?

You verified today on PayPal that you are working and get paid for someone, who sells an EA, Robot or Signal or that you are self the one who sells an EA or Signals.

You verified also that you abused our signals to make your signal more attractive for customers. Everthing long-term planned.

You knew quite well that our signal can only make profit when there is a good connectivity. But you went offline to create an account which is going negative (in minus!). Telling everybody that you have plenty of very good VPS services which run so pretty well.

Than you published this account here, to let us shine here in a negative light. Telling the people that we are scammers, lyers and send fake signal, you bloody lyer, you!

And especially ACCOUNT DOUBLER / BEST FOREX EA ran so well on your account. HOW SURPRISING !!! That makes us even more sure that you are the a''' hole, who created and sold this fu****g BEST FOREX EA / ACCOUNT DOUBLER.

You also verified, that you made this all, just to get more people to pay for your Signal. To make it more attractive for customers than ours.

We are now convinced, that you are the seller of this bu*l'sh*t signal 'Best Forex Robot/ Account Doubler'

With ours Signal this would never happend!

We do not send just 5, 6 or 7 trades per day, as you bloody lyer did.

WE send about 70 TRADES and around 500 signals EVERY DAY. 500 signals directly to your MT4 to open, adjust, modify and close the trades.

We are Loughing Out Loud ( LOL ) or better Very LOL about 7 trades which go in LOSS. That is just 10% of our trades.

Better remember next time you want to abuse us: WE HATE SCAMMERS. WE FACED ENOUGH FOR THE REST OF OUR LIFETIME !!!

Yours COMPLETE I-Make-You-Rich Team
I-Make-You-Rich.com

Oh hell... BUSTED!!!

Seems there could be more to the story! Ortwin.. apparently there was some issues with signals matching the master account?

I have to vouch for fx547.. as he has been asking me for help with his forex trading.. he most certainly does not possess the experience to set up a copy system..

NikX posted:

NikX posted:

OrtwinRich posted:

fx5473br posted:
@Jaytrader2, i tried this QMC signal but according to my test and some two or three other users our accounts never match the master account... the number and the date/time od the trades were not the same so he's showing on the master account something that we wont have in our accounts... for me its unfair since we usually are looking for something closer to the master account
In the begining he gave me some excuses thats because my vps i tried to check that and i was running other EA in the same vps and this other were doing fine....

@ForexPro, I saw that phone number too... so did you ask for a refund? anyone here did that already?

You verified today on PayPal that you are working and get paid for someone, who sells an EA, Robot or Signal or that you are self the one who sells an EA or Signals.

You verified also that you abused our signals to make your signal more attractive for customers. Everthing long-term planned.

You knew quite well that our signal can only make profit when there is a good connectivity. But you went offline to create an account which is going negative (in minus!). Telling everybody that you have plenty of very good VPS services which run so pretty well.

Than you published this account here, to let us shine here in a negative light. Telling the people that we are scammers, lyers and send fake signal, you bloody lyer, you!

And especially ACCOUNT DOUBLER / BEST FOREX EA ran so well on your account. HOW SURPRISING !!! That makes us even more sure that you are the a''' hole, who created and sold this fu****g BEST FOREX EA / ACCOUNT DOUBLER.

You also verified, that you made this all, just to get more people to pay for your Signal. To make it more attractive for customers than ours.

We are now convinced, that you are the seller of this bu*l'sh*t signal 'Best Forex Robot/ Account Doubler'

With ours Signal this would never happend!

We do not send just 5, 6 or 7 trades per day, as you bloody lyer did.

WE send about 70 TRADES and around 500 signals EVERY DAY. 500 signals directly to your MT4 to open, adjust, modify and close the trades.

We are Loughing Out Loud ( LOL ) or better Very LOL about 7 trades which go in LOSS. That is just 10% of our trades.

Better remember next time you want to abuse us: WE HATE SCAMMERS. WE FACED ENOUGH FOR THE REST OF OUR LIFETIME !!!

Yours COMPLETE I-Make-You-Rich Team
I-Make-You-Rich.com

Oh hell... BUSTED!!!

Seems there could be more to the story! Ortwin.. apparently there was some issues with signals matching the master account?

I have to vouch for fx547.. as he has been asking me for help with his forex trading.. he most certainly does not possess the experience to set up a copy system..

as for this ea.. it was fine with out doubling up the trades!! stupid.. tighten the SL and you have a pretty good system!!

I made my $$ back so lost nothing.. but grid systems with no stops will always fail.. shame!

Guys, @NikX I have to defend myself against Ortwin Allegations

First I'm not a signal seller I think just like @NikX there are a lot of others who knows me a little and they know I'm just a user of signals and I dont have expectations and knowledge to sell signals... Also who bought the signal like me knows that

Second I bought this account doubler signal and I lost 1.5k... The support of this signal was good and my account match the master account.. I know it blew my account but for the short time that I used the EA my account matched the master account and when the master acount blew i blew also... OF course I'm not happy to what happened but this is a learning process for me...
I should take @RedRhinoLab and @aeronthomas advices and put a protector against account blow... but I know If I lost money with a signal it is all my risk and fault... of course I'm disapointed with account doubler but I just blame myself because my account blew and my account is my money and my responsibility

Now let's talk about my experience with Queens Money Colector.. the support from Ortwin was good. since I cant buy directly from the website I contact him and he ask me to pay $55 for a setup fee plus $20 for the first month... Ok I used paypal for the payment.
After that Ortwin gave me a username/password at mql5 and asked me to use this new user/password in my mt4... Ok no problems...
But after some time I realized that my trades were not the same as his master account... the same behavior that I had with bluemonkey (another learned story) and my account type and leverage and broker was the same as the master account and my vps was working fine because I had another scalping EA running fine in that VPS... of course sometimes one or another trade does not match its ok but, none of the trades, always different number of trades, date opened and closed very different... so why should I keep using that? I stop to use the signal and I ask Ortwin to refund me and he started to get agressive with me and chase me by email and in the posts heres in myfxbook...
Like I told a lot of times I'm here to find some good signals to help me to make some profit, ask people about their experience, I share my experience, we filter some opinons, make some friends,etc

Again I'll ask if someone who is QMC customer please share your account history and you guys make the comparison and get your opinion @OrtwinRich I'm not trying to stop you to sell signals I'm just exposing my opinion...

You can search some @pradalover2424 complains about his/her account never matches the master account also but I think his/her broker is different

@OrtwinRich also please stop chasing me I have my things to do, and learn forex is just one of them.
if you don't have anything to add to our knowledge please keep it to you because is not blaming people that you'll get something in this world.


All, please PM me if you need more details or if you just want exchange experience about EAs/Tools


Also I'd like to share with you this good comparison

Successful Person VS An Unsuccessful Person
Have a Sense of Gratitude Have sense of entitlement
Forgive others Hold a grudge
Accept responsibility for their failures Blame others for their failures
Compliment Criticize
Whant Others to suceed Secretly hope others fail

I hope I can be fully successful in forex in the near future :)
I wish a good week for everybody

They sure dropped the soap on this one....

OrtwinRich posted:

fx5473br posted:
Guys, @NikX I have to defend myself against Ortwin Allegations


Now let's talk about my experience with Queens Money Colector.. the support from Ortwin was good. since I cant buy directly from the website I contact him and he ask me to pay $55 for a setup fee plus $20 for the first month... Ok I used paypal for the payment.
After that Ortwin gave me a username/password at mql5 and asked me to use this new user/password in my mt4... Ok no problems...
But after some time I realized that my trades were not the same as his master account... the same behavior that I had with bluemonkey (another learned story) and my account type and leverage and broker was the same as the master account and my vps was working fine because I had another scalping EA running fine in that VPS... of course sometimes one or another trade does not match its ok but, none of the trades, always different number of trades, date opened and closed very different... so why should I keep using that? I stop to use the signal and I ask Ortwin to refund me and he started to get agressive with me and chase me by email and in the posts heres in myfxbook...
Like I told a lot of times I'm here to find some good signals to help me to make some profit, ask people about their experience, I share my experience, we filter some opinons, make some friends,etc



@OrtwinRich also please stop chasing me I have my things to do, and learn forex is just one of them.

Your bloody storyteller and lyer. Good story, but who believes you?

You can be sure that we chase every scammer.

Since you published an address of one of our co-workers, you do not mind, when we publish yours, too.

fx5473br. Seller of Account Doubler - Best Forex Robot scammers:

Filipe Santos
AV ENGENHEIRO ROBERTO FREIRE 3112 apto 2404
Ponta Negra
Natal - Rio Grande do Norte
59090-000
Brazil

Have good fun with all your new 'friends'

@OrtwinRich I have looked at your system and would be happy to provide a non bias report back to the masses. i have a cent account ready to go and happy to pay the $20 for a months subscription.

thanks

Nikx

fx5473br posted:
Guys, @NikX I have to defend myself against Ortwin Allegations


Now let's talk about my experience with Queens Money Colector.. the support from Ortwin was good. since I cant buy directly from the website I contact him and he ask me to pay $55 for a setup fee plus $20 for the first month... Ok I used paypal for the payment.
After that Ortwin gave me a username/password at mql5 and asked me to use this new user/password in my mt4... Ok no problems...
But after some time I realized that my trades were not the same as his master account... the same behavior that I had with bluemonkey (another learned story) and my account type and leverage and broker was the same as the master account and my vps was working fine because I had another scalping EA running fine in that VPS... of course sometimes one or another trade does not match its ok but, none of the trades, always different number of trades, date opened and closed very different... so why should I keep using that? I stop to use the signal and I ask Ortwin to refund me and he started to get agressive with me and chase me by email and in the posts heres in myfxbook...
Like I told a lot of times I'm here to find some good signals to help me to make some profit, ask people about their experience, I share my experience, we filter some opinons, make some friends,etc



@OrtwinRich also please stop chasing me I have my things to do, and learn forex is just one of them.

This saga is ludicrous. Why would fx5473br be the promoter of account doubler EA he has lost $1500 of his own money with it! I can confirm that fx5473br is not the seller of that signal service, or any other signal service. Someone is jumping to conclusion with no basis in fact. I can vouch for fx5473br, he's honest and just trying to get some good signal services and or EAs working on his account like all of us. On the other hand I don't believe that Ortwin is a scammer at all, but obviously there is either some issues with his EA on some accounts, or in the transferring of signals as evidence by a couple of customers who have had issues, others I believe are getting great results, I certainly was someone sitting on the sidelines with that EA and did consider it (obviously with a trade protector EA as would have saved accounts in Account Doubler). The way that Ortwin has spoken to his customer fx5473br, I wouldn't want to do business with him, even if his EA is doing well. I would suggest that any signal provider might want to look into simpletrader.net which is a very stable copy trading system for signals. Good luck to everyone in getting refunds from Account Doubler. I notice it's still on forex peace army at the top, not updated, so hopefully no one else invests in this poor system.

It is always sad when traders blow up their accounts but fact is that every trader is by himself responsible for his account. I guess everybody who used Account Doubler knew very well that the EA will blow up his account within weeks.

The provider wanted to make some fast and easy money, the users wanted the same and at the end users and provider lost money. Hopefully everybody learned the very important forex lesson 'There is no easy money in forex.'

Happy Trading!

fx5473br posted:
Guys, @NikX I have to defend myself against Ortwin Allegations

First I'm not a signal seller I think just like @NikX there are a lot of others who knows me a little and they know I'm just a user of signals and I dont have expectations and knowledge to sell signals... Also who bought the signal like me knows that

Second I bought this account doubler signal and I lost 1.5k... The support of this signal was good and my account match the master account.. I know it blew my account but for the short time that I used the EA my account matched the master account and when the master acount blew i blew also... OF course I'm not happy to what happened but this is a learning process for me...
I should take @RedRhinoLab and @aeronthomas advices and put a protector against account blow... but I know If I lost money with a signal it is all my risk and fault... of course I'm disapointed with account doubler but I just blame myself because my account blew and my account is my money and my responsibility

Now let's talk about my experience with Queens Money Colector.. the support from Ortwin was good. since I cant buy directly from the website I contact him and he ask me to pay $55 for a setup fee plus $20 for the first month... Ok I used paypal for the payment.
After that Ortwin gave me a username/password at mql5 and asked me to use this new user/password in my mt4... Ok no problems...
But after some time I realized that my trades were not the same as his master account... the same behavior that I had with bluemonkey (another learned story) and my account type and leverage and broker was the same as the master account and my vps was working fine because I had another scalping EA running fine in that VPS... of course sometimes one or another trade does not match its ok but, none of the trades, always different number of trades, date opened and closed very different... so why should I keep using that? I stop to use the signal and I ask Ortwin to refund me and he started to get agressive with me and chase me by email and in the posts heres in myfxbook...
Like I told a lot of times I'm here to find some good signals to help me to make some profit, ask people about their experience, I share my experience, we filter some opinons, make some friends,etc

Again I'll ask if someone who is QMC customer please share your account history and you guys make the comparison and get your opinion @OrtwinRich I'm not trying to stop you to sell signals I'm just exposing my opinion...

You can search some @pradalover2424 complains about his/her account never matches the master account also but I think his/her broker is different

@OrtwinRich also please stop chasing me I have my things to do, and learn forex is just one of them.
if you don't have anything to add to our knowledge please keep it to you because is not blaming people that you'll get something in this world.


All, please PM me if you need more details or if you just want exchange experience about EAs/Tools


Also I'd like to share with you this good comparison

Successful Person VS An Unsuccessful Person
Have a Sense of Gratitude Have sense of entitlement
Forgive others Hold a grudge
Accept responsibility for their failures Blame others for their failures
Compliment Criticize
Whant Others to suceed Secretly hope others fail

I hope I can be fully successful in forex in the near future :)
I wish a good week for everybody

It's really interesting how signal providers are getting nervous very easily and arrogantly as if they are the holy grail signal providers and at the end they all lose at the end after collecting some money from day dreamers..

I believe you man...I suggest you to open a thread in the 'general' section in myfxbook about this signal provider so that everybody participate and tell us about their opinion, independently without bias or without being blocked in the discuss section by the vendor himself.....and also to see the shoe polishers who usually make some dances around any new EA/signal provider to make it look shiny to new pies....!! wish you best of luck

i told you earlier in the thread


why not puting more than 200$ if you believe in your ea?


this has been a good fishing day

tomazzo67 posted:
I have written a mail to Hotforex so they pay you the Commission IB.All those who have account in Hotforex that do the same thing to write an email so that do not pay you anything.

Good Idea, could you Copy&Paste the Text, which you emailed them so we can use them. I have no clue what to write.

Oh btw, didnt anybody try to get a refund by paypal?

Dears , read this carefully,
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this lesson learned to everyone 😁

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