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Stephanus Rensburg (stephanusR)
Sep 26 2010 at 15:49
216 posts
At you claim a track record for Jasmine back to March 2009, but has only verified this account as having operated for two months. Your last update was 21 Sept, where is 22,23 and 24 Sept?

Please explain.

At you list nine real accounts but on you are only showing us three real accounts. How many real accounts do you have . What is the total return across all your accounts. These accounts are not your own personal money but those of investors, thus you incur no personal risk if some of these accounts goes belly up, you can always show potential investors the winning accounts. Which is imagine you show the Canadian tax authority only the losing accounts . Show us your audited tax return where you indicate what funds from your personal bank account you have risked and what was the return on equity across all 100 of these real accounts.

All these accounts are with VarengoldBankFX - but they are not registered in your personal name but in the names of clients, the accounts of which you are trading risk free to yourself. IF they blow it isn't your problem. also can't list any regulator that regulates them. Why do they have a .com domain if their parent company has a .de domain. What is their relationship, how are the accounts separated etc....
Oct 17 2010 at 19:52
34 posts
Dec 07 2010 at 15:42
230 posts
Hey Winsor - looking good. Been squizzing at EAs lately although it is a whole new world to me. At least you are not a fake.

CTSForex (winsor)
Dec 07 2010 at 18:03
303 posts
Hi Patience,

Thanks for the compliment. I am only targeting 35% yearly return; hence, my performance is sustainable. Any profit above 35% is a bonus not a requirement. Most of the EAs in the market is targeting 100% per month resulting in crash and burn.
Feb 19 2011 at 14:15
22 posts
Hey Winsor

how many times have you blown up an account and restarted with a new account ? 😉

Can you please prove that your EA does not blowup and prove me wrong by posting a backtest all the way back
to 1999?

every single account you have posted here through out the years have been deleted by you and restarted with a new one

hmmm, who cares, it's peoples money not your money! So just keep the blow up going 😉
Feb 19 2011 at 16:02
230 posts

fxSavvy posted: every single account you have posted here through out the years have been deleted by you and restarted with a new one

Nice first post (as I roll my eyes). Got any proof of these claims you are making? I didn't realise myfxbook had been going for as many years as you make it out to have been.

Amazing that you have been hanging out here for years observing all these blown accounts but you've never posted before. Why don't you post under your real username instead of creating another one. Are you a coward? I think I already know who you are anyway.
Feb 19 2011 at 23:09
22 posts
and are you just the same guy (Winsor) registered with multiple user names?
Winsor started posting his results on myfxbook since 2009, I was also one of his subscribers and saw how his UsdChf trading
system stinks.

of course I have no proof, Winsor has deleted every proof

just ask this kid to post his EA backtest and you'll get all the proof you want, I doubt he is a man enough to post
his backtest though
CTSForex (winsor)
Feb 20 2011 at 00:13
303 posts

I don't know what is your problems. The backtesting results are listed on my website for all readers to download. Look at the end of the page for Historical Backtesting.

Per the posting on my website - Our Beta software release ran from February 2009 to December 2009 with +13,968 pips profit. There were no changed made to the code for 10 months until the Greece debt crisis in January 2010. It affected our trading strategy results from Jan 2010 to May 2010. On May 21, 2010, we released our Production software to combat this issue. The new production software is back tested from October 21, 1999 to May 20, 2010.

Feb 20 2011 at 14:16
22 posts
uhhh ,,, how could I miss those ones

The thing is I have subscribed to your UsdChf system last year and the EA just kept buying on an over 800 pips fall on that pair

sure it uses a stoploss, but what does it do when a stoploss is hit? it buys again from a better price incase if the price moves further down, and if the price happens to correct right after the loss what happens? It buys at a worst price

I really cant see this style of trading coming from a profissional trader and I can't trust you winsor unless you post all your losses, and post back those accounts you have hidden/deleted.

Sure a backtest can be curve fitted or even worst 'faked' by programming the EA to disregard the losses (or a group of losses) and not count them during the backtest. I am not sure if the 'fake' backtest is the case here, but it seems suspect.

You have accounts going back to 2007, and when you sent me these accounts login they had absolutely nothing to do with the claimed profit on your website.

Bottom line is, I don't trust you Winsor, I think you are one of those dillusional fund seekers , scam artists.

Post those accounts please, one of them was on MIG broker I believe, i dare you to post them all
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Jul 09 2011 at 03:44
87 posts
Are you born with super trading skills fxSavvy?

Even if your argument is true and he lost an account back in 2007, it is not a restriction to be made it as a super system developer at present or in the future..
Realized and analysed failures is the red carpet of success..Science and our civilization work like this..

He had demonstrated one of the best performances with nice following equity for many months and clear exits on realized stops losses.
His market advantage is clearly on let winners run longer..
He has made thousands of positive pips on constant lot sizing and growth performance is above his 40% yearly target.

You made non valid argument..and no proof what's so ever..

I believe that recent looses are due to over-leveraged performance shown, thus the serious dive. I would trade this system live only with less than half lots..
Jul 27 2011 at 18:20
134 posts
fxSavvy has his own signal service and knows just what it is like to scare the crap out of subscribers. I would be beware of throwing the first stone if I were you. Nobody is forcing you to trade Winsors systems anymore than you they are forcing subscribers to follow your service.
Jul 28 2011 at 16:02
22 posts
what the heck are you talking about?

I am not running any signal service and I wonder why you would come up with this BS just to defend Winsor!

If you have started with Winsor 7 months ago you would have been at almost breakeven by now and if you have started by the time I have added my comment on this thread you would have been in a drawdown. This is the exact reason why I do not like to share my opinions on public forums because of disgraceful and ignorant people like you!

And by the way, I have only used his service for less than a couple of weeks period over a year ago on a demo which was more than enough for me to figure out that I should just pack up and leave
CTSForex (winsor)
Jul 28 2011 at 16:18
303 posts

Remember, that I am only targeting 35% per year and any return above this level is a bonus. If you judged my trading system based on 3 to 4 weeks of trading, then you need to revise your understanding of the market. You can't take what the market does not give you. Don't expect each month to be a winning month. I have look at your trading record

For some reasons, you are complaining about my trading system. You have 65% drawdown on your manual trading while Jasmine has only 20% drawdown.
Jul 28 2011 at 17:40
22 posts
haha, those results are not mine, I upload results for other systems to analyze on myfxbook because it makes my life easier.

I did not judge your system based on your losses for two weeks! In fact I have clearly highlighted the risk of your trading style
on your UsdChf system which you don't seem to have the basic knowledge about trading to even understand what I am talking about.

I have no further comments on this thread, those who can't understand why I really hate your trading style and why I think it is very dangerous I think they may just need to learn it the hard way

Aug 14 2011 at 00:09
134 posts
Is this not the same guy?
Just a coincidence then? I had a subscription to someone with the same name and cancelled it after getting freaked out with wild trading. Same bitter attitude was evident in the last email I ever received from fxsavvy;

 'please note that me 'FXSavvy the trader' will no longer have access to this email and you will not recieve from me or be able to contact me through this email

you will be replied at by the same greedy programmer (scammer) who is taking over this business

You can only communicate with me through my blog which I already gave the link for in my previous email

Aug 14 2011 at 09:22
22 posts
no I am not the same dude

I see that winsor has recovered nicely using double the lot size, if he keeps trading on the same lot size as before
then prepare for some roller coaster rides on his equity curve
Sep 09 2011 at 02:58
22 posts
It did not take much math to figure out that winsor lot increase (double the lot size) will get him in a roller coaster
equity curve! but I guess he is not even educated enough to do a 1st grade basic math.

Those who have started with Winsor a year ago are now back at were they started from (all profits blown-up in a few weeks only) after paying winsors management fees! And those who started 9 months ago are deffinately in a drawdown.

losing over 9 months of profits in only a few weeks is called a 'blow-up', which is exactly what happened to wonsor other accounts which he has hidden away.

I wonder were are all winsor ass-kissing fans now! If you have read what I wrote about winsor strategy earlier on this thread and have observed it live your self and still decided to continue with Winsor then you truely deserve losing EVERY penny of what you just lost!
Oct 18 2011 at 09:00
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