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Expert Advisor TFOT (By iticsoftware)

Gain : +399.84%
Drawdown 23.15%
Pips: 4057.6
Trades 708
Won:
Lost:
Type: Real
Leverage: 1:100
Trading: Automated

Expert Advisor TFOT Discussion

Nov 22, 2010 at 15:36
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136 Replies
Member Since May 10, 2011   200 posts
Jan 31, 2012 at 18:50
My TFOT with smaller Finfx-micro acct is doing similar to this TFOT on AlpariUS larger acct. So I can't give comparative eval of how it fairs compared to larger Pro acct.
Anyone here running TFOT on an fxopen $1000 Pro acct? Or just a smaller acct somewhere? Would appreciate your feedback and/or hooking-up to myfxbook.
Thx, Truly, Jerry B.
don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
Member Since May 10, 2011   200 posts
Jan 31, 2012 at 18:52
Meant by 'similar' that since my having & running on holidays to now it is doing similar period of major losses.
don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
Member Since Oct 08, 2011   12 posts
Feb 01, 2012 at 15:29
Boris, could you add magics analysis capability? Currently, one cannot see how each strategy performs individually.
ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
Member Since Mar 28, 2011   1008 posts
Feb 01, 2012 at 19:19
One star? I'll give it Five. Stability for over a year and it doesn't use a dangerous recovery strategy.... Pip expectancy is almost 7 which is hard to find on the site. It may not win every month, but from the historical data, the winning months outweigh the losing streaks....Let's see how it does in 2012.
daily_martingle
forex_trader_34364
Member Since Apr 18, 2011   239 posts
Feb 11, 2012 at 10:26

   ForexScam posted:
   One star? I'll give it Five. Stability for over a year and it doesn't use a dangerous recovery strategy.... Pip expectancy is almost 7 which is hard to find on the site. It may not win every month, but from the historical data, the winning months outweigh the losing streaks....Let's see how it does in 2012.

Hi
i have this EA. i admit its profitable but it has a very low accuracy and hits sl several times rapidly.
daily_martingle
forex_trader_34364
Member Since Apr 18, 2011   239 posts
Feb 11, 2012 at 10:29
see ... this is my forward test on demo account
mt4i.com/users/tfot_3/stats
Member Since May 10, 2011   200 posts
Feb 11, 2012 at 14:50
Demo accts are useless for tester or live as it is a broker smoothed-over version of live quotes. I used a live acct at ibfx and over 6 month period prior to December tfot did fine in test, doubled the acct @ 5% risk and dd not bad. Now I'm running live$ on Finfx micro and ibfx and since prior to Xmas these have generally followed tfot of iticsoftwares on AlpariUS, not by trade-by-trade but by general equity win/lose path curves. Currently it seems like it is returning to recovery, hopefully the market doesn't have too much more of these instability periods, but even if it does, I feel tfot will just recover. I was at first getting kinda skedptical of tfot due to my ways of looking at test total replication expectancy, or trade-by-trade replication of AlpariUS, but tfot seems to be its own 'animal' that chews thru the quotes on any broker, surprisingly. Although I admit it still will take many months before jury returns, otherwise as Boris suggests, I should be at fxopen.com's ecn low initial deposit of $1000. I have my Finfx micro on myfxbook if you want to track it. Acct members/Batcheler
Truly,
Jerry B.
don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
Member Since Jan 29, 2012   3 posts
Feb 15, 2012 at 09:46
Is there anyone who earned TFOT this year. I already lost two months.
Member Since Nov 12, 2009   272 posts
Feb 15, 2012 at 23:36 (edited Feb 15, 2012 at 23:39)
This ea seems like broker sensitive as this demo test has taken a few more trades and somewhat different in the last two weeks www (dot) mt4i (dot) com /users/tfot-bfr

Edit: this other test trades more than just eurusd, thus more trades.
Member Since May 10, 2011   200 posts
Feb 16, 2012 at 00:59
demo acct are useless, they are smoothed over & different than live quotes. If you read my recent posts you'd see I threw in towel on expecting trade-by-trade replication of trades, that is live to test replication hopes. TFOT does its thing on NFA or not NFA, only way I found is to compare % equity changes live with iticsoftware's AlpariUS acct, and I see it generally follows in performance, which has been of good relief from frustrating over. It's kind of a slight magical let-it-be approach to following performance, was hard to let go of my engineering-like microscope to its trade-by-trades.
don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
Member Since Jan 29, 2012   3 posts
Feb 16, 2012 at 07:42
TFOT I have a live account with Alpari since the beginning of the account and so far only decline.
Member Since May 10, 2011   200 posts
Feb 16, 2012 at 15:03
Let me guess, you also bought it around holidays like I did. As Boris pointed out to me, there was also drawdown around June '11 as you'll notice on balance chart for TFOT's myfxbook. Aren't you also getting a slight beginning of a recovery?
don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
Member Since May 10, 2011   200 posts
Feb 16, 2012 at 21:09
Boris, well......it was recovering, now not so.
I fear TFOT's better days might have passed due to the ongoing crisis with Euro & USD, would it be possible to find pair of countries that have stable economies and 'mold' TFOT to quite a few years of backdata on that? Finfx yields 6-1/2yrs of 1min data for most pairs (as one example of data available). Those interested in this say 'yay'.
don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
Member Since Jan 29, 2012   3 posts
Feb 17, 2012 at 09:15
Further loss. Why am I only released on a live account TFOT :-( That's how my account is completely destroyed and it will not take long. Friend trader TFOT off in January and well done.
Member Since Feb 18, 2012   10 posts
Feb 18, 2012 at 19:31

   daydreamer posted:
   its forex combo system ea. 1000 usd for a cracked version. lol

Svorom, I have looked over at the forward test for both the combo and TFOT and the trade similarity are there and quite abvious.
also not that both the combo and TFOT are now in sever drawdown cycle. (not so sever for the TOFT)

Anyways, could someone who bought this EA please post the backtest for 2011-2012 to see if it actually match with the forward test (or at least partially match with no less than 85% match)

If we do not see a match, then this EA is not worth a penny, however, if we do see a big match between the forward and backtest
(which I personally highly doubt it) then this EA would deffinately worth 10x the asking price!

So Svorom, could you please post a backtest for 2011-2012, I would like YOU to post the backtest and NOT the vendor or anyone who defends him. And i will volunteer to do the comparison.

Looking Forward

Member Since May 10, 2011   200 posts
Feb 18, 2012 at 19:58
Scottshay, I have 8mo 5min backdata test using live$ MT4 terminal data, it's been following both my TFOT on ibfx and Finfx-micro and also iticsoftware's myfxbook charts. While they don't track 100% trade-by-trade, the balance curves seem to track. If you want the report email me, batchj at earthlink (dot) net. I too feel the backtest must mostly follow live$ forward, so far this seems to be the case, but I worry some now as I don't know if Euro or USD is getting too enturbulated for this EA, i.e., 'its better days over?' I been watching in this manner for a few weeks. Bought tfot before Xmas, seems I got it at worst drawdown period. Jerry ps: I'd attach report now but am writing this not in my server.
don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
Member Since Feb 18, 2012   10 posts
Feb 18, 2012 at 21:29
Hi batchboy

I did have a quick comparision between your FinFX account and the vendor Alpari account and I did find a bunch of days
were either the FinFX or the Alpari account had one, two or even three more/less trades than each other. However, what
I find quite concerning is the missing days, were the EA would stop trading for the day on one of the accounts while it actually trades on the other... which could be very dangerous for a grid trader like TFOT. (Have you herd of 'Kangaroo' EA? which is a grid trader that has blown up some accounts and doubled others for this same exact reason)

You guys really need to do your self a one big favour and see which broker does make the most match with the backtest and stick
with that broker to avoid such bad surprises.

P.S the TFOT backtest way a lot much better than the Kangaroo EA and the Kangaroo is actually curve fitted. Moreover, I did
mention it just to address my point of view and I doubt that the TFOT case will be as bad because of the much better risk:reward ratio it has.

P.S.S Perhaps we can all start a private group for broker testing and reporting, were each one of us would be given a few brokers to apply the EA on and a few others would take the time to compare results with the backtest?
Member Since Feb 18, 2012   10 posts
Feb 18, 2012 at 21:30
Also, I have just sent you the email

Thanks again
Member Since May 10, 2011   200 posts
Feb 18, 2012 at 21:35
Scottshay, Boris did find an ecn with lowest initial deposit of one Thou, its fxopen. He recommends to most closely be like his AlpariUS Pro which requires $10K deposit. I'd be interested if you start a site or forum with your kind of deeper looking & insight.
don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
Member Since Jun 18, 2011   52 posts
Feb 19, 2012 at 04:57

   scottshay posted:
   Hi batchboy

I did have a quick comparision between your FinFX account and the vendor Alpari account and I did find a bunch of days
were either the FinFX or the Alpari account had one, two or even three more/less trades than each other. However, what
I find quite concerning is the missing days, were the EA would stop trading for the day on one of the accounts while it actually trades on the other... which could be very dangerous for a grid trader like TFOT. (Have you herd of 'Kangaroo' EA? which is a grid trader that has blown up some accounts and doubled others for this same exact reason)

You guys really need to do your self a one big favour and see which broker does make the most match with the backtest and stick
with that broker to avoid such bad surprises.

P.S the TFOT backtest way a lot much better than the Kangaroo EA and the Kangaroo is actually curve fitted. Moreover, I did
mention it just to address my point of view and I doubt that the TFOT case will be as bad because of the much better risk:reward ratio it has.

P.S.S Perhaps we can all start a private group for broker testing and reporting, were each one of us would be given a few brokers to apply the EA on and a few others would take the time to compare results with the backtest?

What makes you think it is a grid trader? It has two strategies, a scalper and a breakout strategy. The most open trades you can have at a time is 2, but this is very rare.
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