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Member Since Oct 12, 2016  455 posts leo23 Jan 11 at 18:04 (edited Jan 11 at 18:18 )
This system is available only for fund management and it is the modified version of our previous system 'Deep Neural Network EA V.2.6'.

If you are interested to join the fund management, then please read the system description for fund management requirements.

Next, if you meet all the fund management requirements and you are interested to join the fund management, then contact us to our email '' to proceed further with the joining process or in order to get more details.

Primary Contact Email:

Our alternate email:


Member Since Feb 17, 2014  45 posts incomeasset Jan 13 at 07:41
hi it is truth about your monitoring with all history thanks


Member Since Oct 12, 2016  455 posts leo23 Jan 13 at 08:03
incomeasset posted:
hi it is truth about your monitoring with all history thanks

No, this is an old mt4 account and we started using our machine learning algo on 10th Jan 2019. So any trading history before that time period is not applicable.

Otherwise, there is no reason for us to set a custom start date for the account. Since we started using this algo from 10th Jan 2019 and hence, we have set the custom start date from 10th Jan 2019.


Member Since Oct 12, 2016  455 posts leo23 Jan 16 at 16:26
This week we originally planned not to trade in live account during Monday and Tuesday due to Brexit, however, we just continued trading in the account since we just started this account.

Though it gave relatively high drawdown yesterday which is not displayed correctly in myfxbook, but still it didn't hit the 50% equity protection and we made maximum profit during this time. As we mentioned in our other thread, we are targeting around 5% per day on average with an equity protection of 50% in this account and so it requires the profit of around 1 month to recover the loss of one equity protection hit.

So as expected it gave a small loss yesterday and gave around 10% profit today and so around 5% per day on average. Also, we would like to mention that this account is with Forex4you and the spreads are relatively high with this broker as compared to other brokers like IC Markets, Pepperstone, Axitrader etc and hence , the actual profit can be much more if the system is used in those brokers. We might publish more accounts in near future.

We have to wait and see how long it continues till it hits the first equity protection and accordingly we will put it in high account balance.

In the mean while we have another set up with conservative settings similar to our demo account and we may start another small live account for testing purpose with the new set up.


Member Since Oct 12, 2016  455 posts leo23 Jan 18 at 15:35
Though this week was difficult for our algo to handle due to Brexit vote and we suffered some major drawdown in the account, but somehow we ended up with a net profit this week without almost zero manual intervention. However, we don't want to conclude anything since the trade history is small and we need at least 100% net profit before hitting the first equity protection and then, we can give some final conclusions.

Like we mentioned in our other system thread, the profits in this live account is relatively small as compared to the actual profits which it should produce, because in this Forex4you account the spreads are relatively high and sometimes the trades are not getting closed in time and mt4 gets frozen that is what happened yesterday.

Otherwise, yesterday was a profitable day, but we ended up with a small loss. So only for testing purpose in small amounts we use Forex4you, but for serious trading with large deposits we will recommend other brokers like Pepperstone, IC markets, Axitrader,LMAX etc and in those brokers the actual profits will be much more compared to this one. For example, today't profit should have more than 10% in any other broker account where as we had to close with a net profit of around 7% just because of high spread.


Member Since Oct 12, 2016  455 posts leo23 Jan 21 at 15:51 (edited Jan 21 at 15:56 )
We want to update our fund management clients who are following this account that there will be always few trade mismatch might happen between multiple slave accounts even though we are using trade copier to copy trades to all accounts. It is because there is no guarantee that each broker account will accept all the trades all the time.

Especially, any trade which is opened during early hours of the day has a high chance of getting rejected since most of the broker servers usually reset during those times. However, placing trades in a demo account is not a problem. So there will be always few trades mismatch can happen.

However, since we are using very low risk per trade and hence, a couple of trades mismatch will not affect too much on the trading results in long run. Also, sometimes the missing trades might be closed in profit and sometimes in loss and hence, these will neutralise each other over time.


Member Since Sep 17, 2015  4 posts turbotrader2000 Jan 22 at 07:35
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Member Since Oct 12, 2016  455 posts leo23 Jan 22 at 18:35

First of all, the link you provided has nothing to do with our trading system and it is not our website and we don't have any website as well.

Our system is developed completely from scratch and it has nothing to do with any 'Holy Grail Strategy' which someone might have developed in the past or what so ever other than just using the same name for the system.

There is a specific reason why we have chosen this name 'Final Holy Grail' for our system and we will explain that in our future posts while explaining in details about the system.

Also, note that third party links are not allowed to be posted in system discussion threads.


Member Since Oct 12, 2016  455 posts leo23 Jan 24 at 16:36 (edited Jan 24 at 16:37 )
Recently the volume of emails to our support has been increased dramatically. So our response time might be more than 24 hours in few cases.

Also, if you are contacting our support email, then make sure to send the email to both our primary email and alternate email, because sometimes due to technical difficulties it is possible that emails might not be received to us or by you.

We are planning to expand our system to various brokers and various risk set ups in very near future. So we might add more accounts to our profile very soon.


Member Since Oct 12, 2016  455 posts leo23 Jan 25 at 16:58 (edited Jan 25 at 17:02 )
This week we have closed with a net profit of around 30%. So it is time to withdraw the profits.

Since we are using a high risk set up with 50% equity protection and hence, it is not a good idea to pile up profits without withdrawal for those clients who are using the same set up since there is a chance of loss of 50% of account equity at anytime.

But those accounts running with low risk set ups can continue to add profits if they want, but still some withdrawal is recommended to avoid situations like flash crash events in currency pairs to protect the account balance.

In near future, we might add more accounts with low risk set ups and very high risk set ups to check how much maximum profit it can give safely.

Those clients eligible for profit sharing should receive emails from our support email. If email is not received, then they can directly contact our support email from their end.

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