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Stephanus Rensburg (stephanusR)
Sep 13 2010 at 08:21
216 posts
Below is my skype session with a Nigerian scammer showing us one winning real account with fxpro.com out of 300 losing accounts.

market is open and trying to publish the account, i received a message to wait 2hrs.
[12:35:52 AM] Stephanus Rensburg: ok
[12:37:44 AM] ECN's: they're not asking for my login yet. Just investor's paswd.
[12:38:03 AM] ECN's: maybe after 2hrs they will.
[12:38:11 AM] ECN's: you use them?
[12:39:07 AM] ECN's: you seem to be busy. I will try them tomorrow.
[12:39:25 AM] ECN's: hv a great night.
[9:06:58 AM] ECN's: hello Stephanus.... Just completed myfxbook profile.
[9:07:28 AM] ECN's: here's the link to verify its real.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/1stECN
[9:43:03 AM] ECN's: detailed one... :: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/1stECN/jpcfx-ecn/49598
[11:16:14 AM] ECN's: have you seen the report?
[11:16:43 AM] Stephanus Rensburg: yes, where are your other 100 accounts showing steep losses that you have not yet uploaded
[11:17:08 AM] ECN's: did I tell you I have 100 accounts?
[11:17:26 AM] ECN's: what is your intention? Investing or questioning?
[11:17:30 AM] Stephanus Rensburg: no, you have to prove that you don't as per karl popper falsifiability principle
[11:18:18 AM] ECN's: well, I dont have 100 accounts, I'm setting up a hedgefund soon that will handle lots of account based on my strategy.
[11:18:25 AM] ECN's: what do you want...?
[11:19:11 AM] Stephanus Rensburg: For you to show me your income tax return, some way of proving that you are not running 100 EA's over 200 accounts and only showing me those 3 real accounts that made money out of 300

Steve B (stevetrade)
Sep 13 2010 at 09:17
1408 posts
Hi Stephanus,
I'd be interested to know what you based your accusations on.
Is there a conversation outside of this one that we aren't aware of as there is nothing incriminatory in this one?

11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Najite Puegeren
1stECN
Sep 13 2010 at 09:17
15 posts
Stephanus, you should post the full and not part of it. Below is it.

[9/12/2010 10:16:37 PM | ECN's: market is open and trying to publish the account, i received a message to wait 2hrs.
[9/12/2010 10:36:08 PM] Stephanus Rensburg: ok
[9/12/2010 10:37:57 PM] ECN's: they're not asking for my login yet. Just investor's paswd.
[9/12/2010 10:38:15 PM] ECN's: maybe after 2hrs they will.
[9/12/2010 10:38:23 PM] ECN's: you use them?
[9/12/2010 10:39:20 PM] ECN's: you seem to be busy. I will try them tomorrow.
[9/12/2010 10:39:37 PM] ECN's: hv a great night.
[7:07:10 AM] ECN's: hello Stephanus.... Just completed myfxbook profile.
[7:07:40 AM] ECN's: here's the link to verify its real.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/1stECN
[7:43:15 AM] ECN's: detailed one... :: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/1stECN/jpcfx-ecn/49598
[9:16:25 AM] ECN's: have you seen the report?
[9:16:56 AM] Stephanus Rensburg: yes, where are your other 100 accounts showing steep losses that you have not yet uploaded
[9:17:20 AM] ECN's: did I tell you I have 100 accounts?
[9:17:38 AM] ECN's: what is your intention? Investing or questioning?
[9:17:43 AM] Stephanus Rensburg: no, you have to prove that you don't as per karl popper falsifiability principle
[9:18:30 AM] ECN's: well, I dont have 100 accounts, I'm setting up a hedgefund soon that will handle lots of account based on my strategy.
[9:18:37 AM] ECN's: what do you want...?
[9:19:23 AM] Stephanus Rensburg: For you to show me your income tax return, some way of proving that you are not running 100 EA's over 200 accounts and only showing me those 3 real accounts that made money out of 300
[9:20:17 AM] ECN's: 1. I dont use EA.
                             2. I'm a pure technician by heart.

stephanusR posted:
    Below is my skype session with a Nigerian scammer showing us one winning real account with fxpro.com out of 300 losing accounts.

market is open and trying to publish the account, i received a message to wait 2hrs.
[12:35:52 AM] Stephanus Rensburg: ok
[12:37:44 AM] ECN's: they're not asking for my login yet. Just investor's paswd.
[12:38:03 AM] ECN's: maybe after 2hrs they will.
[12:38:11 AM] ECN's: you use them?
[12:39:07 AM] ECN's: you seem to be busy. I will try them tomorrow.
[12:39:25 AM] ECN's: hv a great night.
[9:06:58 AM] ECN's: hello Stephanus.... Just completed myfxbook profile.
[9:07:28 AM] ECN's: here's the link to verify its real.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/1stECN
[9:43:03 AM] ECN's: detailed one... :: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/1stECN/jpcfx-ecn/49598
[11:16:14 AM] ECN's: have you seen the report?
[11:16:43 AM] Stephanus Rensburg: yes, where are your other 100 accounts showing steep losses that you have not yet uploaded
[11:17:08 AM] ECN's: did I tell you I have 100 accounts?
[11:17:26 AM] ECN's: what is your intention? Investing or questioning?
[11:17:30 AM] Stephanus Rensburg: no, you have to prove that you don't as per karl popper falsifiability principle
[11:18:18 AM] ECN's: well, I dont have 100 accounts, I'm setting up a hedgefund soon that will handle lots of account based on my strategy.
[11:18:25 AM] ECN's: what do you want...?
[11:19:11 AM] Stephanus Rensburg: For you to show me your income tax return, some way of proving that you are not running 100 EA's over 200 accounts and only showing me those 3 real accounts that made money out of 300

Najite Puegeren
1stECN
Sep 13 2010 at 09:22
15 posts
I also guess this best answers your post.

To whoever is interested. view the below thread :

https://www.trade2win.com/boards/forex-strategies-systems/93634-trade-like-large-financial-institutions-banks-hedgefunds-e-t-c.html

and the report from this one:

https://www.trade2win.com/boards/forex-strategies-systems/93634-trade-like-large-financial-institutions-banks-hedgefunds-e-t-c-5.html#post1234012


I guess the post from the above is from a jealous member of t2w who's just frustrated with his very poor performance and possibly my success in the forum and trading in general.

My advice is learn how to trade profitably.

Stephanus Rensburg (stephanusR)
Sep 13 2010 at 10:33
216 posts
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Account shows a near 50% decline the last month. See the screen capture below.

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Najite Puegeren
1stECN
Sep 13 2010 at 11:18
15 posts
No use replying your post.

The investor who invested withdraws profits month in and month out.
below is the trade executed on friday and today.

Thank you for introducing me to myfxbook 😄

click on the attached image for most recent report.

Thanks Stephanus


Stephanus Rensburg (stephanusR)
Sep 13 2010 at 17:14
216 posts

stevetrade posted:
    Hi Stephanus,
I'd be interested to know what you based your accusations on.
Is there a conversation outside of this one that we aren't aware of as there is nothing incriminatory in this one?



https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=255064 If a person makes a claim he must provide a way to falsify it. Forexfactory.com posters have outed james16 and jacos two posters with huge following as frauds .

Steve B (stevetrade)
Sep 13 2010 at 21:15
1408 posts
So basically what you are saying is that unless people prove their authenticity through Stocktwits they should be distrusted?

11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Stephanus Rensburg (stephanusR)
Sep 14 2010 at 05:33
216 posts
stevetrade posted:
    So basically what you are saying is that unless people prove their authenticity through Stocktwits they should be distrusted?


Yes, either a single https://stocktwits.com/stephanusR account or your audited tax return. The IRS wants to know about your net gain across all 100 of your futures accounts. They won't tolerate games like https://www.managed-forex-investing.com/forex-money-managers is playing by only showing us five winning accounts out of 500. With myfxbook.com we can play games by uploading only those real accounts that made money, I don't think Steve, that one would want to play games with the UK tax authority. The assumption must always be that a person is a fraud and trying a scam until he can prove the converse.

See this thread https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=254552 'James16 is not credible' and https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=27286 ''Jacko's''

SolarFX (forexma)
Sep 14 2010 at 06:53
1332 posts
Stephanus, I understand your concerns and I support the critics against scammers but I don't agree with you in this case.
A person could have 5 accounts running 5 different strategies. If 4 of those accounts are in loss and the 5-th is a long term winner that doesn't make that person not credible. That's why there are different strategies and different accounts.
I think a person with myfxbook verified account, reputable broker as dbFX, CitiFX, FXCM, FxPro or else and quite large live account(a sign that the person trusts his strategy) cannot be called scammer.
As you may see this ain't some 100$ account but it was rather a 40-50k account. Scammers don't conduct experiments on 50k live account.

"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
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