Million Dollar Pips (By milliondpips)
| Gain : | +26241.17% |
| Drawdown | 39.44% |
| Pips: | 5202.2 |
| Trades | 4497 |
| Won: |
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| Lost: |
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| Type: | Demo |
| Leverage: | 1:200 |
| Trading: | Automated |
Million Dollar Pips Discussion
Sep 21, 2011 at 17:15
leerees posted:
ForexScam posted:
it sounds like the brokers need to put some of their revenue into their servers. If they can't handle High frequency trading, just say so. Its clearly not a liquidity problem.
The problem is MDP.
Unfortunately this is what happens with HFT, MDP is no longer profitable because institutional HFT traders have adjusted their algorithms to hunt for the deviation trades that MDP places. It takes 5 seconds to decompile an EA like MDP, I've decompiled various indicators and EA's myself, some of the strategies I've adjusted and incorporated into my own EA's.
MDP's deviation trades are easy to spot and I have contacts in the HFT world who confirm that they have algorithms to hunt MDP trades and counter trade them (meaning you loose), you will always loose because HFT traders are way closer to the market than you are.
There still is a theoretical way to make money with MDP and that is with a dealing desk broker who doesn't push your orders to the real market, of course finding one that doesn't use virtual dealer is impossible, if you do manage to find one keep it to yourself. MDP has also changed the game now as HFT traders are now turning to the retail market. Basically any popular EA will be targeted.
If the author brings out a new version, the HFT traders will have it decompiled and new algos setup to counter trade it before the day is out.
Guys, I'm sorry to have to say this but the party is over.
I know some of you are going to refuse to accept what I've written and I know it will crush the dreams of many EA traders but the 'fapturbo years' are well and truely over, fapturbos demise was just the start of the market fight back against retail EA's, basically it set the trend which is as soon as a profitable EA gets popular, it's toast. MDP is the next big thing to be overcome by the market and no doubht 6 months down the line we will have a new HFT ea which will follow the same path as this one.
LOOOOL what a nonsense
Sep 21, 2011 at 17:22
(edited Sep 21, 2011 at 17:41)
mistificator posted:
This is so funny you are talking about institutions hunting for MDP trades just as any of MDP trades would actually get to the real interbank! Wake up people, even if you are trading on 'ECN' broker, they are making a market for you, the only trades you can send to real interbank market are LIMIT BID and LIMIT OFFER, there is no even a market orders as such, only MARKETABLE LIMITS. Your petty little trades are only matter for your Mr. Broker Market-Maker. Who may or may not offset the whole inventory to the prime broker and second-tier ECN like Intergral or Currenex, and not the interbank (where EBS, Reuters are used).
So do not worry about anyone hunting, it's all about your broker's capabilities and readiness to play this game with you.
This is totally false and you are either a broker or a HFT hoping more people will use MDP to provide easy liquidity to line your pockets with.
Slug16 has been trained to spot MDP trades, I know that because my friend has been using this algo for the last 4 weeks, he trades on the exchange, do not lie and say MDP is insignificant, you and I both know just how many millions of dollars come from MDP trades.
You want people to believe MDP is still profitable so HFT's can continue to take the other side of these trades but the majority of people are already realising that MDP is no longer profitable, for them.
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Member Since Aug 16, 2010
453 posts
Sep 21, 2011 at 17:55
Leerees, you lack any basic understanding about how retail FX market work. Keep dreaming. Another positive day today on 3 brokers, only 1 was slightly losing. FOMC should give us a lot of volatility.
Was mich nicht umbringt, macht mich stärker.
Member Since Aug 16, 2010
453 posts
Sep 21, 2011 at 18:51
two brokers - loss, one broker - small gain, another broker +170 pips.
Was mich nicht umbringt, macht mich stärker.
Member Since Aug 16, 2010
453 posts
Sep 21, 2011 at 18:52
guys nothing to do with brokers manipulation or slowness, at least in my cases of two losers - they had just simply too volatile price action, the best achiever was a market maker with a smoother PA. Raw feed would kill it as this was VOLATILE.
Was mich nicht umbringt, macht mich stärker.
Member Since Sep 16, 2011
5 posts
Sep 21, 2011 at 20:06
Loss of 3$ on my live pepperstone A/c , my current settings are default , can somebody recommend any better settings???
Member Since Dec 15, 2010
795 posts
Sep 21, 2011 at 20:25
Ohhhhh, big change on this testing site... Balance was $355k this am and now its $270K still way ahead, but wow..
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Member Since Dec 15, 2010
795 posts
Sep 21, 2011 at 20:25
testing site is: https://www.bestforexrobots.net/
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Member Since Dec 15, 2010
795 posts
Sep 21, 2011 at 20:26
Changing your risk didnt affect trades.. only the amount... be glad.
grega07 posted:
I set risk to 1% before news and my MDP didn't trade. I'm not sure if this is the reason, but I'm happy with todays result: 2 trades, 1 negative, 1 positive = +7,2 pips. I believe more and more this is a pure lotery.
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Member Since Dec 15, 2010
795 posts
Sep 21, 2011 at 20:29
I have version 1.2 on a DEMO. see my charts..sorry its not real money for a few more weeks. The other charts are all live real money accounts.
pianosso posted:
So what about 1.16 vs. 1.2?
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Sep 21, 2011 at 21:15
leerees posted:
The problem is MDP.
Unfortunately this is what happens with HFT, MDP is no longer profitable because institutional HFT traders have adjusted their algorithms to hunt for the deviation trades that MDP places. It takes 5 seconds to decompile an EA like MDP, I've decompiled various indicators and EA's myself, some of the strategies I've adjusted and incorporated into my own EA's.
MDP's deviation trades are easy to spot and I have contacts in the HFT world who confirm that they have algorithms to hunt MDP trades and counter trade them (meaning you loose), you will always loose because HFT traders are way closer to the market than you are.
There still is a theoretical way to make money with MDP and that is with a dealing desk broker who doesn't push your orders to the real market, of course finding one that doesn't use virtual dealer is impossible, if you do manage to find one keep it to yourself. MDP has also changed the game now as HFT traders are now turning to the retail market. Basically any popular EA will be targeted.
If the author brings out a new version, the HFT traders will have it decompiled and new algos setup to counter trade it before the day is out.
Guys, I'm sorry to have to say this but the party is over.
I know some of you are going to refuse to accept what I've written and I know it will crush the dreams of many EA traders but the 'fapturbo years' are well and truely over, fapturbos demise was just the start of the market fight back against retail EA's, basically it set the trend which is as soon as a profitable EA gets popular, it's toast. MDP is the next big thing to be overcome by the market and no doubht 6 months down the line we will have a new HFT ea which will follow the same path as this one.
Guys.....read through the entire forum....look at the results before lots of people started using it....now compare that to now.
It is obvious that something has changed. No matter how badly you don't want to accept it, leerees is telling the truth. This is exactly what HFT's do. They are programmed to take advantage of certain consistent market conditions. MDP is such a big deal mow that it is worth to code a HFT to take advantage of it. They will not always succeed because the market is not entirely computer driven. But seriously, if you want to know why it is nearly impossible to get a winning setup....this is a big part of the reason.
FinFX is one of the few brokers that truly has a non-intervention policy. MDP almost never trades profitably with them. Everyone I know who has tried it lost money in the long run and had to stop. IBFX on the other hand is well know to intervene. The Professor53's accounts are the most steadily profitable I have seen anywhere.
I recommend you take leerees' statement seriously.
Make losses, but always come out a winner at the end.
