Pivot Trader Pro - R.E Discussion

The ticket numbers are incorrect with the vendors accounts of their new system Pivot Trader Pro.

When you open up three orders all in the same minute you would have ticket numbers following 1,2,3 but not with their vendor account.

You would also expect to get the same prices, but not with their vendor account.

Just look at the first 3 orders in their trading statement, the Opening Prices are different by as much as 10 pips.

Also maybe some of you noticed that their website no longer displays the HTML Trading history statements that show us the ticket numbers such as Rev Trader Pro and Vortex Trader Pro. Now their new product uses the Myfxbook statement that does not include the Order Ticket Numbers in the display.

Manual version doesn't include any magic numbers, trader enter orders manually based off indicator alerts? The account is at Pepperstone but buying an automated trading system then having is turned into a manual trading tool doesn't make much sense besides having an expert trader make the right decisions while all the other users don't. The open trades are private so maybe someone can request for the trades to be public - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pivottraderpro/pivot-trader-pro-manual-version/1213704 -

Lets begin learning the system

The automated version took
04.16.2015 20:44 04.17.2015 09:15 AUDUSD Sell 0.48 0.78019 0.77965 5.4 22.07 12h 30m 0.04%
04.16.2015 21:35 04.17.2015 03:10 EURUSD Sell 0.47 1.08054 1.07800 25.4 118.42 5h 34m 0.23%
04.16.2015 15:30 04.16.2015 16:01 EURUSD Sell 0.49 1.07556 1.07490 6.6 32.34 31m 0.06%

while the manual trader did not , or the trader is still holding these positions ( open trades private) with 15% open drawdown.

Losing trades have a tendency to stay open indefinitely . EURGBP have 91 days trade duration. Stoploss? Maybe it doesn't use one. Why not? 95% Win Rate has to be achieved some how and this is normally from abnormal Risk Reward ratios.

😀This time Doug's new produce had fake orders?

LoL, I think majority would not trust the EA from Sy******x anymore. What is the point for purchasing a rubbish, waste time waste money.

DougPrice, thanks for blocking me again from your forum discussion on Pivot, I knew it was coming. So here is a small but growing list of his products all hosted by the synergyfx buddies.
RevTraderPro
VortexTraderPro
ForexVentureBot
PivotTraderPro -
And I can't exclude KeltnerPro because they are using the same broker and same Website designer. Thank you Victor for that piece of information. I got a good laugh from it.

The latest Pivot Trader pro... Is it really a signal service? Now no one can backtest it to see if its actually a good strategy. What a shame. How on earth can someone trade the system manually then? Vendor doesn't show any backtests either, so now you really have a black box.

From experience, if you have a good system and sell signals from that system, you wouldn't sell the system for a flat out price, but you would charge a MONTHLY FEE for those signals. If you are selling outright for signals only ( trader copier EA ), you obviously know your system won't last for more than a few months. Sell those hotcakes while their hot!

@archangelsky Yes, you are right, We can't trust any product coming from Synergyfx, that is the reason why you'll see the account at pepperstone, but one must ask WHY ISN'T THE SAME PRODUCT but the system traded manually? Its just more $#@$ if you ask me.

RedRhinoLab posted:
Losing trades have a tendency to stay open indefinitely . EURGBP have 91 days trade duration. Stoploss? Maybe it doesn't use one. Why not? 95% Win Rate has to be achieved some how and this is normally from abnormal Risk Reward ratios.

Some of the EURUSD Sell orders had 500 + pip drawdown for about 50 pips profits. Risk 10 to earn 1 with 25 day trade duration.

RedRhinoLab posted:
DougPrice, thanks for blocking me again from your forum discussion on Pivot, I knew it was coming. So here is a small but growing list of his products all hosted by the synergyfx buddies.
RevTraderPro
VortexTraderPro
ForexVentureBot
PivotTraderPro -
And I can't exclude KeltnerPro because they are using the same broker and same Website designer. Thank you Victor for that piece of information. I got a good laugh from it.

This was just recently @TechyTrader - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/TechyTrader - But thanks for info.

TechyTrader posted:
1. https://fxmonetizer.com-------------Account: 88883412 Broker : Synergy
2. https://revtraderpro.com------------Account: 88883419 Broker : Synergy
3. https://forexinvestbot.com---------Account: FILL IN THE GAP ! Broker : Synergy
4. https://forexventurebot.com-------Account: FILL IN THE GAP ! Broker : Synergy
5. https://vortextraderpro.com--------Account: 88883422 Broker : Synergy
6. https://eztraderpro.com fat Broker : Vantage eek

PROOF : When i was going to unsubscribe from the email list of ForexVentureBot.com i saw [FVB], [REV], [VTP] & (FxInvestProof-FxMonetizer/ForexInvestBot/EztradePro) in the same Aweber email Campaign list. Which means same person/team marketing same EA with different names and settings.

All these 6 different robots websites are hosted in same hosting company (Hostgator) ! coincidence ? hmm...

well..VortexTraderPro and FxMonetizer have same Hosting and SAME Name Servers !

ns6533.hostgator.com 192.254.236.111
ns6534.hostgator.com 192.254.236.112

This can't be coincidence right ?

Basically the guy behind all these websites is ''Registrant Name: Eugene Labunsky '' ForexInvestBot.com

The Marketer is William Morrison , - https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/forex-signals-services/20265-fxphantom-com-william-morrison.html - If you go to fxphantons site today, you will be redirected to VortexTraderPro.
Try it yourself - https://www.fxphantom.com/ and you will end up here - https://www.vortextraderpro.com/indexPP.html

About 50% of all retail robots come from the same group and it has been this way for the last 4-5 years.

https://www.forexreplicator.com , redirects to eztraderpro,com -

https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/public/review/www.fastforexmillions.com

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/birt/fast-forex-millions/229091

https://www.google.co.th/search?client=opera&q=william+morrison+Robot&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=william+morrison+Robot&start=10

No stoploss in sight on this Pivot Trader system.

RedRhinoLab posted:

The Marketer is William Morrison , - https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/forex-signals-services/20265-fxphantom-com-william-morrison.html - If you go to fxphantons site today, you will be redirected to VortexTraderPro.
Try it yourself - https://www.fxphantom.com/ and you will end up here - https://www.vortextraderpro.com/indexPP.html

Now we know !!

Am I the only one that thinks this could be a Rev Trader EA without a stoploss?

The logic does look very similar to Rev in that it tries to catch the reversal points/pivot zone while following the big trend.