Queens Money Collector (Genom OrtwinRich)
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Medlem sedan Feb 19, 2015
54 inlägg
Medlem sedan Feb 19, 2015
54 inlägg
Jun 01, 2015 at 07:55
Medlem sedan Feb 19, 2015
54 inlägg
I thought this queen is his girl friend who loves diamonds or a joke emphasizing queen of england.Anyway we believers all messed up with our hard earned money...this Ea story spoiled my belief in Forex. market.

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Medlem sedan Sep 09, 2013
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Jun 01, 2015 at 08:03
Medlem sedan Sep 09, 2013
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Who in the right mind would send investment capital to the trader and not into an allocated investment account ?
The whole purpose of using MAM/PAMM is to allow the investor to Invest into the system while giving access to their own account(investment).
Sending money to the trader has potential of being Queens money collector. 😲
I didn't realize what was happening behind the scenes of the signal (service), but a real PAMM is this - http://redrhinofx.com/pamm-brokers/ - and doesn't require sending money to the Queen
The whole purpose of using MAM/PAMM is to allow the investor to Invest into the system while giving access to their own account(investment).
Sending money to the trader has potential of being Queens money collector. 😲
I didn't realize what was happening behind the scenes of the signal (service), but a real PAMM is this - http://redrhinofx.com/pamm-brokers/ - and doesn't require sending money to the Queen
Medlem sedan Mar 29, 2015
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Jun 01, 2015 at 08:06
Medlem sedan Mar 29, 2015
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I only read of this from knowing a friend who use Ortwin, after reading many post I believe that Ortwin/Jen/Jay cannot be believed for his is a pathological liar.
Forgive me interject myself but I ask every last customer to contact their PayPal to explain that he defrauded you by making false offers and claims and then disappeared with your money. If everyone does this at a minimum it will make his account hurt and the time necessary to respond to each claim. It is obvious to my view that he stole the money who deposited funds with him and take payment for no service. He now tries to delay action so that I can cover his tracks or hope to tire you out. I do not believe his claims on anything as he is a pathological liar. Look it up... here are some traits of a pathological liar, a sociopath..just be glad he doesn't live next door to your wife and children. Perhaps someone can contact his neighbors to warn them of his behavior and thievery.
Certain personality traits where pathological lying may occur include:
Narcissism
Selfishness
Abusive behavior
Obsessive, controlling, and compulsive behaviors
Impulsivity
Jealous behavior
Manipulative behaviors
Deceptiveness
Socially awkward, uncomfortable, or isolated
Low self-esteem
Tempermentalness
Anger
If he lives in Denmark it is a shame as he has a good life and sad that he steal from lesser incomes.
Forgive me interject myself but I ask every last customer to contact their PayPal to explain that he defrauded you by making false offers and claims and then disappeared with your money. If everyone does this at a minimum it will make his account hurt and the time necessary to respond to each claim. It is obvious to my view that he stole the money who deposited funds with him and take payment for no service. He now tries to delay action so that I can cover his tracks or hope to tire you out. I do not believe his claims on anything as he is a pathological liar. Look it up... here are some traits of a pathological liar, a sociopath..just be glad he doesn't live next door to your wife and children. Perhaps someone can contact his neighbors to warn them of his behavior and thievery.
Certain personality traits where pathological lying may occur include:
Narcissism
Selfishness
Abusive behavior
Obsessive, controlling, and compulsive behaviors
Impulsivity
Jealous behavior
Manipulative behaviors
Deceptiveness
Socially awkward, uncomfortable, or isolated
Low self-esteem
Tempermentalness
Anger
If he lives in Denmark it is a shame as he has a good life and sad that he steal from lesser incomes.
Jun 01, 2015 at 08:15
Medlem sedan Mar 22, 2015
32 inlägg
OrtwinRich posted:ddr555 posted:mtraurig posted:
I got this email overnight. any one else get the same ? he still has our $...... Dear Mike !
We got hacked last week and our Robot was destroyed. Also the backup.
For more than one week we tried to recover all data. Without hope.
We gave up.
But yesterday we found a copy of QMC on a memory stick which was used for mp3 music files.
I stored all music for my next holidays on that.
We are really happy about that.
Therefore we have the following offer to you: we will deposit 1.000 USD for you to our MAC2.
This will recover all losses very soon and gain good profit in the future.
But this requires that you close the PayPal claim against us.
Sorry for any inconvenience. We hope you take this offer.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin
Hello!
Do not close dispute from your side as once you close you will never be able to reopen and no payment will be maid by the vendor. This is one of trick of the scammers to grab your money.
Ask vendor to pay you and close the dispute that is only way you get your payment back. This is I am telling based on my experiences with all scammers!!
We are no scammers!
Let's see what we did wrong in the last 5 month:
1. Some blamed to get not exactly the same results/signals as the master account. But the made about 35% profit in just one month. My bank doesn't give me that in 10 years. So what is to blame?
2. Some blamed that I am a BIG liar when I say, that our Drawdown was not 89%. It was 89% of the gained profit and only 45% of the total balance. I can proof that here on MyFxBook on our Chart. I do not lie!
3. Some blamed that I did not tell anything about a bonus. Actually it is not my job to inform you about bonus. The broker offers it and not me. When you drive a car you first have to learn it. It is the same with Forex. You should have informed yourself what a bonus is and which rules are connected to it.
4. Others blame that their account blew up. It is magic that 2/3 of our customers succeed and pay their monthly fee with a smile and thank us for the good work. When your account blew up, than you did something wrong that 2/3 of our customer did not.
5. Others blame that we stole money. We just tried to make more profit with another EA on a PAMM account. But the results for this EA were based on a fake account with manipulated results. We could not forsee this. But we provide solutions for those who were involved.
Summary: We are no scammers and do not steel money and do not lie.
Yours Ortwin
WHAHAHAHA
And Mickey Mouse is the president of the USA
He keeps on lying !!!
People stay away from this SCAM !!!
And all people who gave him money: claim everything back by PayPal or Skrill
Jun 01, 2015 at 08:15
Medlem sedan Mar 22, 2015
32 inlägg
Dear Alimertin!
We are not JayJayservices.com. We have not to do anything wiht them.
Our homepage is I-Make-You-Rich.com
Yours Ortwin
This website is registered at the same (house) address as I-make-you-rich.com
And he doesn't know them .....
The next lie
Pfffffffffffff
Medlem sedan Apr 30, 2015
44 inlägg
Jun 01, 2015 at 08:19
Medlem sedan Apr 30, 2015
44 inlägg
http://whois.domaintools.com
Enter and Search for his website : i-make-you-rich.com
There is all the info on registerd user
Enter and Search for his website : i-make-you-rich.com
There is all the info on registerd user
Medlem sedan Feb 19, 2015
54 inlägg
Jun 01, 2015 at 08:21
Medlem sedan Feb 19, 2015
54 inlägg
This Morning Mr. Ortwins mail to me
Dear Mert!
Sorry, that I did not recognize you as Alimertin. But who could I ?
To show you, that we are not scammers:
We deposited 200 USD for you on our MAC2 Account.
We could do this because we found luckily a copy of our QMC.
It would be wonderful if you could post that on MyFxBook
I will send you a link when we created one.
Yours Ortwin
***
So I hope this time all going some direction, sure I will wait for this MAC2 ACCOUNT records and money withdraws. Heys I wish he can win this time and pay back our money.
Dear Mert!
Sorry, that I did not recognize you as Alimertin. But who could I ?
To show you, that we are not scammers:
We deposited 200 USD for you on our MAC2 Account.
We could do this because we found luckily a copy of our QMC.
It would be wonderful if you could post that on MyFxBook
I will send you a link when we created one.
Yours Ortwin
***
So I hope this time all going some direction, sure I will wait for this MAC2 ACCOUNT records and money withdraws. Heys I wish he can win this time and pay back our money.
Medlem sedan Dec 29, 2014
240 inlägg
Jun 02, 2015 at 06:39
(redigerad Jun 02, 2015 at 06:40)
Medlem sedan Dec 29, 2014
240 inlägg
Dear Esther!
Let's summarize what happened:
28. Mar Toon started trading with bonus
12. Apr you started trading with bonus
17. Apr Toon got answer from me about the bonus.
At this stage, no matter what I had answered, any action to the bonus was far too late.
My experience is: when you accept a bonus and start trading, there is no chance to give the bonus back.
You and Toon setup the accounts WITHOUT asking me about a bonus.
You asked me when it was already too late.
And more: when I write "your money is bound for a while", why did you take it? It makes no sense.
The bonus will never be yours and it binds you to the broker for ages. So what is it useful for?
So, can we now finish that case and continue talking about how to make money?
I have good news for you: our Managed Account 2 made yesterday 6,2% profit.
Just invest 100 USD and all your losses will be forgotten in some month and you and me will laugh about it.
I hope you agree and accept that it was not my fault that you ran into a bonus-trap.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin
Let's summarize what happened:
28. Mar Toon started trading with bonus
12. Apr you started trading with bonus
17. Apr Toon got answer from me about the bonus.
At this stage, no matter what I had answered, any action to the bonus was far too late.
My experience is: when you accept a bonus and start trading, there is no chance to give the bonus back.
You and Toon setup the accounts WITHOUT asking me about a bonus.
You asked me when it was already too late.
And more: when I write "your money is bound for a while", why did you take it? It makes no sense.
The bonus will never be yours and it binds you to the broker for ages. So what is it useful for?
So, can we now finish that case and continue talking about how to make money?
I have good news for you: our Managed Account 2 made yesterday 6,2% profit.
Just invest 100 USD and all your losses will be forgotten in some month and you and me will laugh about it.
I hope you agree and accept that it was not my fault that you ran into a bonus-trap.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin
I help others whereever I can.
Medlem sedan Dec 29, 2014
240 inlägg
Jun 02, 2015 at 06:41
Medlem sedan Dec 29, 2014
240 inlägg
alimertin172 posted:
This Morning Mr. Ortwins mail to me
Dear Mert!
Sorry, that I did not recognize you as Alimertin. But who could I ?
To show you, that we are not scammers:
We deposited 200 USD for you on our MAC2 Account.
We could do this because we found luckily a copy of our QMC.
It would be wonderful if you could post that on MyFxBook
I will send you a link when we created one.
Yours Ortwin
***
So I hope this time all going some direction, sure I will wait for this MAC2 ACCOUNT records and money withdraws. Heys I wish he can win this time and pay back our money.
Dear Mert !
I am happy that you accepted my solution!
I hope we become friends again.
Yours Ortwin
I help others whereever I can.
Medlem sedan Dec 29, 2014
240 inlägg
Jun 02, 2015 at 06:47
Medlem sedan Dec 29, 2014
240 inlägg
mtraurig posted:
I told him the only way I would close the claim is if he refunded my money and opened a pamm account where I directly send the money to the broker and the broker controls the money. He made some excuse and said while it makes sense and is logical, he made excuses and then said he woudnt do it.... the claim stands. I have also asked paypal to contact police that there were many others. Thanks for all the feedback and you are all right. keep me posted and I will do same. sorry we have to go through this and that we were dumb enough to fall for this.
Dear Mike!
I am happy, you accepted, that I invest 1042,- USD on our Managed Account MAC2.
The profits were wonderful yesterday: 6,2% on a bloody Monday. Not bad.
I look forward that we be friends again.
Yours Ortwin
I help others whereever I can.
Medlem sedan Dec 29, 2014
240 inlägg
Jun 05, 2015 at 06:05
Medlem sedan Dec 29, 2014
240 inlägg
Dear Fellows!
It seems, we oversleep the 1.500%-Profit-Mark
Because now we cracked the 1.600%-Profit-Mark
We also cracked the 8.000 successful trades barrier.
OVER 8.000 SUCCESFUL TRADES !!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT !!!
To sum up: IT IS A TRIPLE CELEBRATION DAY !!!
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
I-Make-You-Rich.com
It seems, we oversleep the 1.500%-Profit-Mark
Because now we cracked the 1.600%-Profit-Mark
We also cracked the 8.000 successful trades barrier.
OVER 8.000 SUCCESFUL TRADES !!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT !!!
To sum up: IT IS A TRIPLE CELEBRATION DAY !!!
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
Medlem sedan Dec 29, 2014
240 inlägg
Jun 05, 2015 at 06:09
Medlem sedan Dec 29, 2014
240 inlägg
OOPS!
Now we cracked the 1.700% Profit Mark
AND the 1.800% Profit Mark, TOO ?
Sorry! We make so many profit now that I can not post every Profit-Mark.
8.500 SUCCESSFUL TRADES !!!!
Join us on our managed account or get our Robot for your account !
Yours sincerely
Ortwin
I-Make-You-Rich.com
Now we cracked the 1.700% Profit Mark
AND the 1.800% Profit Mark, TOO ?
Sorry! We make so many profit now that I can not post every Profit-Mark.
8.500 SUCCESSFUL TRADES !!!!
Join us on our managed account or get our Robot for your account !
Yours sincerely
Ortwin
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.
Medlem sedan Dec 29, 2014
240 inlägg
Jun 06, 2015 at 06:01
Medlem sedan Dec 29, 2014
240 inlägg
Dear Fellows !
Now we did it again ????
We cracked the damned 1.900%-Profit-Mark. Did we really made 400% in just one week ???
YES, WE DID !
To follow all activicty since December 2014 please view or download our Excel-File
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
It does not include any additional deposits. Nor as profit neither as balance.
Therefore the sums are not equal.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
I-Make-You-Rich.com
Now we did it again ????
We cracked the damned 1.900%-Profit-Mark. Did we really made 400% in just one week ???
YES, WE DID !
To follow all activicty since December 2014 please view or download our Excel-File
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3q794myvhun7g2/QMC.xls?dl=0
It does not include any additional deposits. Nor as profit neither as balance.
Therefore the sums are not equal.
Yours sincerely
Ortwin Rich
I-Make-You-Rich.com
I help others whereever I can.

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