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Managed Accounts

Sep 17, 2012 at 10:52
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Look009
forex_trader_186239
Mitglied seit Apr 15, 2014   224 Posts
Jun 26, 2015 at 12:54
Absolutely true
Look009
forex_trader_186239
Mitglied seit Apr 15, 2014   224 Posts
Jun 26, 2015 at 12:54
I am looking for investors.
Mitglied seit Jun 17, 2015   42 Posts
Jun 28, 2015 at 06:39
There is a line you can cross between investing and speculating (gambling)

Managed FX as an investment should look to return 25-40% per year after fees with draw downs of less than 3-4%
Max leverage used should be no more than 4:1 and a ma of 2:1 is preferable.

Here are the simple sums

Two trades per day average win +25 aver loss -15 Hit Rate of 70%

assume 20 trading days per month that a total of 480 trades per year

per month 28 wins of +25 (average) = +700 pips
per month 12 losses of -15 (average) = - 180 pips

that's a gross total of 520 pips

Assume a USD account trading say EUR/USD and Cable then you have a gross profit of 5.2%

Take a 35% management fee - gives you about 3.4% net per month

Ignoring compounding that's 40.8% net after fees to the client

If you can do that and keep the draw downs below 3%: -

You will have access to all the Assets Under Management you will be able to cope will and you will make a fortune...

In the real world you cannot sell high leveraged programs as the risk element to too great - remember savvy investors always look at the downside risk before they consider the profits!

Sean
market nobility
Mitglied seit Feb 04, 2012   85 Posts
Jun 28, 2015 at 08:51
@Inari

There is no one single account on MyFxBook (even for 'show') fulfilling your criteria and running at a reputable broker for at least 1 year. Or 6 months...

So such strategies either DO NOT EXIST, or they exist, but only for the SUPER RICH...
Mitglied seit Jun 17, 2015   42 Posts
Jun 28, 2015 at 09:49 (bearbeitet Jun 28, 2015 at 10:01)
Hi @Paracelsus66

I agree - when I look at the individual trades on the various the systems on this site there are very few that I would back with money - most use excessive leverage that will decimate them over time. It's an example of what needs to be achieved to in order to have a smooth and profitable return from FX markets.

The figures above are about averages - the first question is could it be done manually - and to achieve these as figures averaged over a year the answer is yes - of course it will not be a straight line but the ride should be fairly smooth. I have been fortunate to work with traders of a high caliber who take profits almost ever day.

Getting the result on a purely algorithmic system is harder again but an average of 70% hit rate with a win/loss profit ratio of 1.66:1 is not impossible. The problem with most algo systems is that they tend to set trade exits at the time of trade entry, be it on a fixed pip basis or a S/R target or a fixed % draw down. However if the market is volatile and ceases to trend or there is a range breakout then the position needs to be re-evaluated in play. If there a move to a new range then the limits can be extended and stops raised - if the market moves into a range then the expected top and bottom of the range need to be determined and if volatility determines that the price movement is indeterminate then if at all possible the trade needs to be exited quickly preferably with a small profit - so you can sit on the sidelines until a more concrete opportunity presents itself.

Hope that explains my thinking and good luck in your trading

Regards

Sean

market nobility
Mitglied seit Nov 19, 2014   105 Posts
Jul 01, 2015 at 06:40
Mitglied seit May 22, 2012   250 Posts
Jul 01, 2015 at 13:50
Paracelsus66 posted:
@Inari

There is no one single account on MyFxBook (even for 'show') fulfilling your criteria and running at a reputable broker for at least 1 year. Or 6 months...

So such strategies either DO NOT EXIST, or they exist, but only for the SUPER RICH...

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/optimofx/real-final/975773
Caution ¡¡ Forex market is full of scams ¡¡
ExpertProfit2015
forex_trader_243290
Mitglied seit Apr 22, 2015   37 Posts
Jul 01, 2015 at 13:52
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ExpertProfit2015/profitable-system-expert/1238657


I can manage acccount if want.

Minimium Invest : 1000USD.

Profit : about 50-100%

Sharing : 50-50


Skype : forex2014sistema
miomax
forex_trader_229154
Mitglied seit Jan 29, 2015   87 Posts
Jul 01, 2015 at 20:51
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/miomax/miomax-pamm/1277392

Min. invest sum: 1000 USD
max. DD: 20%
estimated return profitability: 20-30% per month
sharing: 70/30

welcome to my pamm!
rob559
forex_trader_29148
Mitglied seit Feb 11, 2011   1916 Posts
Jul 01, 2015 at 21:59 (bearbeitet Jul 01, 2015 at 22:01)
you can follow me here

https://www.signalstart.com/analysis/master-break-out-11/55


as soon as i get my live acc back i will offer this acc here at automated
Mitglied seit Nov 19, 2009   50 Posts
Jul 01, 2015 at 22:20
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Look009
forex_trader_186239
Mitglied seit Apr 15, 2014   224 Posts
Jul 02, 2015 at 06:30
What is your real risk per all open trades, if they hit stop losses ?
Mitglied seit Feb 04, 2012   85 Posts
Jul 03, 2015 at 08:33
fhhamoud posted:
your opinion traders :)

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/fhhamoud/pro/1249734

GOOD LUCK

@fhhamoud

Lets see your account in 6 months...!

I promise that I will look it up in December.

THEN WE CAN TALK...

Mitglied seit Jun 18, 2014   63 Posts
Jul 03, 2015 at 22:15
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Mitglied seit May 04, 2012   1608 Posts
Jul 04, 2015 at 01:20
fxstaymanaged posted:
Invest in VIP stocks and forex managed account service by Fxstay team and Pay only if you make profit !

@fxstaymanaged

It would be nice to see some verified performance history (at a reputable broker) supporting the above claim...

Until then it is just 'Paroles, paroles, paroles...' as the famous song says:

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Mitglied seit Nov 12, 2014   39 Posts
Jul 05, 2015 at 06:33
12264 posted:
Good Afternoon All, (AU)

I've been looking into inventing my money into a PAMM account/Managed fund although I'm struggling to find
a reasonable rate of return (monthly) having figures of 30% plus which for me is just to to much risk and
 does not seem realistic in my opinion. If someone could point me in the right direction or even recommend a managed
 fund you use and what returns you are seeing.

Thankyou.
Geoffrey Reynolds.
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Jul 06, 2015 at 07:21
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Jul 06, 2015 at 14:04
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Mitglied seit Sep 16, 2014   59 Posts
Jul 07, 2015 at 23:22
rob559
forex_trader_29148
Mitglied seit Feb 11, 2011   1916 Posts
Jul 08, 2015 at 17:34
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