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Demo trading

Mohammadi
Apr 05 2018 at 06:27
886 ieraksti
The demo account is really important for all kinds of traders in particularly the newcomers. in my trading career, after passing a long time I still depend on demo account for some inevitable reason, I use all my trading strategies first of all in demo account to see the performance how it works. this approach always helps me for avoid risk in live account when trading practically. What is your experience in demo ?

Jimm (Jimmblack)
Apr 13 2018 at 12:21
23 ieraksti
Agree with you. I also frequently use demo account for trading. Even if I trade with new broker I test demo first.

mlawson71
Apr 15 2018 at 06:10
1487 ieraksti
As a newbie I traded on a demo account for months on end to learn the basics of trading. Even now, years later, I return to the demo account from time to time to both train and test new strategies.

Sky44
Apr 16 2018 at 11:50
9 ieraksti
Demo is the best way to practice. You wouldn't practice to be football player by only playing league matches

Mohammadi
Apr 18 2018 at 06:55
886 ieraksti
Beginners should trade demo account minimum for 3 months for acquiring real trading experience which is very supportive to continue a live trading in a proper way. but they don’t believe the importance of this trading place at all. so it would be better if they start minim live account instead of demo trading.

Baldo (BaldoN)
Apr 18 2018 at 15:34
522 ieraksti
I would say - there is no certain time frame like 2 or 3 or 6 months, before moving to real. Demo is useful to test new terminal functionalities and new strategy until the trader gets confidence. On other hand, too long demo trading may build up wrong habits :)

mlawson71
Apr 20 2018 at 17:30
1487 ieraksti
BaldoN posted:
I would say - there is no certain time frame like 2 or 3 or 6 months, before moving to real. Demo is useful to test new terminal functionalities and new strategy until the trader gets confidence. On other hand, too long demo trading may build up wrong habits :)


I agree. To put it bluntly, it takes as long as it takes and not a day less.

Michael Bai (michaelbai)
Apr 26 2018 at 10:08
33 ieraksti
BaldoN posted:
I would say - there is no certain time frame like 2 or 3 or 6 months, before moving to real. Demo is useful to test new terminal functionalities and new strategy until the trader gets confidence. On other hand, too long demo trading may build up wrong habits :)


Couldnt agree more. I use test accounts when trying different methods out and such, but always try not to be so frivolous with the trading and such. Its like putting on a costume and pretend its real for a few moments and never jsut place traders to place trades. Discipline!

Take Challenges Head On
PrivilegeToExist
May 11 2018 at 08:53
13 ieraksti
I guess it kinda *has to be* like this: Toy in Demo, go Live ... and lose cash. Because the mind is in a completely wrong place. Demo is great, at all times (not just beginning), but there's no way around Live to get ready for Live.

Good thing there are possibilities: 1) Use the smallest lot size (0.01) in Live. If your broker's minimum is larger, use a different broker as a beginner! (E.g. I started with Trading 212, which is nice, no reason to complain, but their min is 0.05 for most pairs; swap is very tiny; spread is ok, but is better on IG and even better on FXTM; these are all I tested so far).

A BETTER alternative even: Cent (or micro) accounts. You pay €100 into a Cent account and have EUC10,000 to play with, which is just the right size for proper trading. Without the risk. But still the heat of losing real money. And the possibility to *make* real money.

Priority 1 in your life should be to find out what priority 2 is.
emily_smith
May 15 2018 at 11:44
22 ieraksti
Demo account is very useful. Best thing about demo account is, it give you a complete picture of real trading without charging a single penny. Demo account gives an idea of everything like cost associated with trading, spread, broker's commission, swap charges etc. Specially for new traders, never go direct with live account, practice on demo account till the time you don't feel confident about your trading decisions.

Baldo (BaldoN)
May 15 2018 at 13:46
522 ieraksti
emily_smith posted:
Demo account is very useful. Best thing about demo account is, it give you a complete picture of real trading without charging a single penny. Demo account gives an idea of everything like cost associated with trading, spread, broker's commission, swap charges etc. Specially for new traders, never go direct with live account, practice on demo account till the time you don't feel confident about your trading decisions.


Demo may show the picture of the flow, spreads, charges etc. for example, but the demo cannot show you something very important - execution, depth of market and top of book. This could be tested in real environment only.

ComebackKing
May 15 2018 at 14:19
37 ieraksti
If you can't make money with a demo account, you won't make money with a real account.

PrivilegeToExist
May 15 2018 at 14:41
13 ieraksti
@ComebackKing You're forgetting that a demo account doesn't have real money. So, you can't make money with it.

I'm kidding, man.

Priority 1 in your life should be to find out what priority 2 is.
ComebackKing
May 15 2018 at 14:42
37 ieraksti
Yea, lol. I should have said 'money'

Tiffany (TiffanyK)
May 17 2018 at 09:32
427 ieraksti
BaldoN posted:
Demo may show the picture of the flow, spreads, charges etc. for example, but the demo cannot show you something very important - execution, depth of market and top of book. This could be tested in real environment only.

Absolutely agree. I even think that using Demo and LIve simultaneously for testing might be helpful as well not only for newbies .... thus you can test some experts , strategies etc.

Accept the loss as experience
PrivilegeToExist
May 17 2018 at 12:40
13 ieraksti
Random multi-per-day strategy I thought of this morning - 'get-in-the-flow' (I'm still beginner):

1) Use demo account. Pick one instrument, e.g. EUR/USD due to low spread, or one that you fancy because of its moves.

2) Bet the smallest size (i.e. 0.01 lot) up or down, doesn't matter, except if you already have a good hunch, then pick that one.

3) If you're wrong, cut your loss quickly. If you're right, try to get a stop-loss at break-even and adjust it a few times in positive direction, but leave breathing room.

4) THE IDEA IS that by playing only that one instrument, you'll not be deceived by its moves, but you'll somehow get into its flow, increasing your win-probability and win-scale.

5) If this works, slowly scale up.

6) If this still works, SWITCH TO LIVE ACCOUNT, but return to smallest lot size, because the flow as experienced by you will sure be shaken by the switch.

7) If this still works, slowly scale up.

Priority 1 in your life should be to find out what priority 2 is.
PrivilegeToExist
May 17 2018 at 12:40
13 ieraksti
Forgot to say: First bet is random. Being in the (demo) trade makes you give a crap, so your mind aligns more fervently. Next bet is therefore less random. And so forth. So, this wasn't meant for only one trade.

Priority 1 in your life should be to find out what priority 2 is.
PrivilegeToExist
May 18 2018 at 12:18
13 ieraksti
Clarification: I mean this not as a long term strategy, where you *eventually* switch to a live account, but as a daily routine. Good morning. Open demo. Pick instrument. Trade, again and again, but tiny. Get in the flow. If that works, slowly scale up. If that works, switch to live but again tiny. Realign with the flow. Slowly scale up. Next day: GOTO 10

Priority 1 in your life should be to find out what priority 2 is.
bdelam
May 18 2018 at 12:20
26 ieraksti
Mohammadi posted:
The demo account is really important for all kinds of traders in particularly the newcomers. in my trading career, after passing a long time I still depend on demo account for some inevitable reason, I use all my trading strategies first of all in demo account to see the performance how it works. this approach always helps me for avoid risk in live account when trading practically. What is your experience in demo ?


although sometimes late, it's a way of developing trading confidence.. yet, there's this gnawing feeling that an investor/broker is behind my trades.. well, maybe it's just me...

begin fm below. no man w/ 4 aces asks for a new deal.
bdelam
May 18 2018 at 12:20
26 ieraksti
PrivilegeToExist posted:
Random multi-per-day strategy I thought of this morning - 'get-in-the-flow' (I'm still beginner):

1) Use demo account. Pick one instrument, e.g. EUR/USD due to low spread, or one that you fancy because of its moves.

2) Bet the smallest size (i.e. 0.01 lot) up or down, doesn't matter, except if you already have a good hunch, then pick that one.

3) If you're wrong, cut your loss quickly. If you're right, try to get a stop-loss at break-even and adjust it a few times in positive direction, but leave breathing room.

4) THE IDEA IS that by playing only that one instrument, you'll not be deceived by its moves, but you'll somehow get into its flow, increasing your win-probability and win-scale.

5) If this works, slowly scale up.

6) If this still works, SWITCH TO LIVE ACCOUNT, but return to smallest lot size, because the flow as experienced by you will sure be shaken by the switch.

7) If this still works, slowly scale up.


wow... i think that will work...
(btw, i guess its Descartes!)

begin fm below. no man w/ 4 aces asks for a new deal.
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