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FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Dec 01 2016 at 15:59
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Nemefis posted:
Its because the starting balance was 500$. After that in October, we added about 3500$ and had some loosing trades in November. Thats why the profit absolute profit is shown as 1.5%. Correct gain is 21.23%.


@Nemefis

What really counts is the Average Monthly Profit : Max. Drawdown Ratio. It is the modified CALMAR RATIO.

If this ratio is above 1:1 the strategy qualifies for 'very good' in my books. Anything above 2:1 ratio is 'excellent' and strategies with ratios above 3:1 deserve to be called 'miracles'.

So your startegy is 'very good' based on this ratio (1.3 : 1 to be exact). My question: why keeping the lot sizes (and the absolute profits) so small with such a 'very good' strategy...?

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MICK (patrickx)
Dec 01 2016 at 19:13
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Agree with this. For me personally, all other stats are irrelevant...

FxMasterGuru posted:
What really counts is the Average Monthly Profit : Max. Drawdown Ratio.

My offers: FXCM $4.99/RT, Pepperstone Razor AUD$6/RT, VantageFX $4.30/RT, ICMarkets AUD$5.50/RT - no mark-up spread or slippage!
Ozzie Matt (aeronthomas)
Dec 02 2016 at 08:49
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FxMasterGuru posted:
Nemefis posted:
Its because the starting balance was 500$. After that in October, we added about 3500$ and had some loosing trades in November. Thats why the profit absolute profit is shown as 1.5%. Correct gain is 21.23%.


@Nemefis

What really counts is the Average Monthly Profit : Max. Drawdown Ratio. It is the modified CALMAR RATIO.

If this ratio is above 1:1 the strategy qualifies for 'very good' in my books. Anything above 2:1 ratio is 'excellent' and strategies with ratios above 3:1 deserve to be called 'miracles'.

So your startegy is 'very good' based on this ratio (1.3 : 1 to be exact). My question: why keeping the lot sizes (and the absolute profits) so small with such a 'very good' strategy...?


You have the same thinking as me, I also like systems that have an average monthly profit equal to or higher than the maximum drawdown. These systems are very rare, I have started a new thread to uncover these systems. Everyone is welcome to post other systems they come across that meet these very stric criteria. Hopefully this thread won't have many posts but the systems will be great ones. Here's the link for this new thread https://www.myfxbook.com/community/general/profitable-systems-monthly-return-higher/1323134,1

MICK (patrickx)
Dec 02 2016 at 10:22
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Great idea, I'll join you there:-)

aeronthomas posted:
You have the same thinking as me, I also like systems that have an average monthly profit equal to or higher than the maximum drawdown.

My offers: FXCM $4.99/RT, Pepperstone Razor AUD$6/RT, VantageFX $4.30/RT, ICMarkets AUD$5.50/RT - no mark-up spread or slippage!
SaltyWaters
Dec 02 2016 at 19:44
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FxMasterGuru posted:
Nemefis posted:
Its because the starting balance was 500$. After that in October, we added about 3500$ and had some loosing trades in November. Thats why the profit absolute profit is shown as 1.5%. Correct gain is 21.23%.


@Nemefis

What really counts is the Average Monthly Profit : Max. Drawdown Ratio. It is the modified CALMAR RATIO.

If this ratio is above 1:1 the strategy qualifies for 'very good' in my books. Anything above 2:1 ratio is 'excellent' and strategies with ratios above 3:1 deserve to be called 'miracles'.

So your startegy is 'very good' based on this ratio (1.3 : 1 to be exact). My question: why keeping the lot sizes (and the absolute profits) so small with such a 'very good' strategy...?


We shouldn't forget the most important factor here 'TIME'.
The Calmar Ratio is calculated as the Average Annual rate of return computed for the latest 3 years divided by the maximum drawdown in the last 36 months.
Accounts with less than 3 years shouldn't be taken into consideration.
This is one of the reasons people lose their money when investing. They are to fast jumping into something hasn't been proven yet. Greed blinds them and they don't consider 'time' as a factor for success.

Tony Pipsy (Kingace)
Dec 04 2016 at 07:52
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@FxMasterGuru

Please can you help me analyse my account and strategy? how am i fairing? how would you qualify my strategy? what is my monthly ratio? is it 1> 1 or 2 t> 1?

I hope to be a better trader so any criticisms are welcome

Proverbs 22 vs 29
Tony Pipsy (Kingace)
Dec 04 2016 at 07:53
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Alexander Panchenko (Nemefis)
Dec 04 2016 at 08:06
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There will be an account with more aggressive settings in January, probably with risk factor 2.5 or 3 and monthly profit target of around 10%.

I expect for the ratio to go up in the coming months, maybe even to 2:1. It used to be 2:1 but it went down in the last month due to a couple of loosing trades.

David
davidking99
Dec 04 2016 at 08:28
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Dragon Expert Advisor v3.2
Tested on REAL ACCOUNT. Estimate growth 60%-100% per month.

Live monitoring Account -> https://www.myfxbook.com/members/davidking99/dragon-expert-v32-eu-ej/1869660
Download dragon expert v3.2 + tutorial -> https://bit.ly/getdragonexpert



zk74
Dec 04 2016 at 08:41
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FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Dec 04 2016 at 08:45
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@aeronthomas

Excellent idea, Matt! The first one you have posted is a real gem.

As the ''owner'' and ''guardian'' of the new thread it will be your ''job'' to keep the ''bijou'' and fake gem sellers away as much as possible.

Of course, you can count on me as your vigilant assistant, but only you'll have the power to keep them out by blocking the violators of the rules. (Unfortunately this thread has been polluted badly as many posters don't read the rules of Post #1 or simply don't care about them.)

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crux
Dec 05 2016 at 05:11
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davidking99 posted:
Dragon Expert Advisor v3.2
Tested on REAL ACCOUNT. Estimate growth 60%-100% per month.

Live monitoring Account -> https://www.myfxbook.com/members/davidking99/dragon-expert-v32-eu-ej/1869660
Download dragon expert v3.2 + tutorial -> https://bit.ly/getdragonexpert


Balance: $3527.53
Equity:(241.16%) $8506.94
Deposits: $5000.00
Withdrawals: $0.0

Equity is 241.16% but in open trades I see 'Total: -0.57%'. How that possible?

zk74 posted:
Something new!!

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/zk74/real-hurricane/1870766


Balance: $9432.92
Equity:(154.83%) $14604.64
Deposits: $5655.00
Withdrawals: $0.00

Open trades: 'Total: -2.72%'

Same question.

Dove_Services
Dec 05 2016 at 06:43
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davidking99 posted:
Dragon Expert Advisor v3.2
Tested on REAL ACCOUNT. Estimate growth 60%-100% per month.

Live monitoring Account -> https://www.myfxbook.com/members/davidking99/dragon-expert-v32-eu-ej/1869660
Download dragon expert v3.2 + tutorial -> https://bit.ly/getdragonexpert



The anomaly is in the best/worst trade in $ and in pips. This is normally a tell tale with position sizing issue.

Referring to the Nov 14 trades (attachment 2), there were two trades that accounted for approx. 50 % of the total net profits out of a sum total of 1896 trades. Normally one would expect a bell curve distribution in profits and the outlier in contribution are the profit runs. However in this case, it is a position sizing problem that was 200X the normal that was the contributor. In other words, a substantial amount of leverage risk was taken to generate the profit. If it had gone the other way, the result could be a blown account or a significant DD. It is not just the outcome that matters but how you get there.

         

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Alex (lionfxtrader)
Dec 05 2016 at 11:09
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Ozzie Matt (aeronthomas)
Dec 05 2016 at 12:21
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FxMasterGuru posted:
@aeronthomas

Excellent idea, Matt! The first one you have posted is a real gem.

As the ''owner'' and ''guardian'' of the new thread it will be your ''job'' to keep the ''bijou'' and fake gem sellers away as much as possible.

Of course, you can count on me as your vigilant assistant, but only you'll have the power to keep them out by blocking the violators of the rules. (Unfortunately this thread has been polluted badly as many posters don't read the rules of Post #1 or simply don't care about them.)


Thanks FXMasterGuru, Unfortunately the thread has disappeared. I have asked @admin @ethan to investigate what's going on? hopefully receive a response shortly.

ricki72
Dec 05 2016 at 12:24
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The scammers signed a petition to delete it 😁

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fx5473br
Dec 05 2016 at 13:03
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aeronthomas posted:
FxMasterGuru posted:
@aeronthomas

Excellent idea, Matt! The first one you have posted is a real gem.

As the ''owner'' and ''guardian'' of the new thread it will be your ''job'' to keep the ''bijou'' and fake gem sellers away as much as possible.

Of course, you can count on me as your vigilant assistant, but only you'll have the power to keep them out by blocking the violators of the rules. (Unfortunately this thread has been polluted badly as many posters don't read the rules of Post #1 or simply don't care about them.)


Thanks FXMasterGuru, Unfortunately the thread has disappeared. I have asked @admin @ethan to investigate what's going on? hopefully receive a response shortly.


I was hoping it was a mistake from you guys but its the same here... I saved all those systems published in the thread in a excel file for me... I can share if you reopen a new topic... but it is 'interesting' what happened after a few comments...

cyptom
Dec 07 2016 at 08:06
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