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Is the Forex Market Mathematically Controlled?‏

bako45
Feb 07 2015 at 11:00
18 posts
I have received email in this regard with this question , is it mathematically controlled by the market makers is the question,

'For whatever reason, many traders believe the market is controlled to ensure that they lose. These traders believe that the market makers are specifically looking at their account and driving the market in the opposite direction. Have you ever thought that? Did you watch yourself place a SELL trade, and then the market completely does the opposite and knocks you out of the trade? '

I don't believe that it is, but some times in low volumes it could be possible ?? I am sure that we all experience this as stated here in the email and good topic for discussion, I have my thoughts about it and will share it in this discussion on how to beat it and be profitable , like everything you need a starting point and that starting point seems to be a problem for lot of traders ,


I will share some of my strategies which are simple but effective , but first lets get this question in the open , I would like to hear from you traders on your thoughts on this subject 😐



mavericks
Feb 07 2015 at 12:50
110 posts
bako45 posted:
I have received email in this regard with this question , is it mathematically controlled by the market makers is the question,

'For whatever reason, many traders believe the market is controlled to ensure that they lose. These traders believe that the market makers are specifically looking at their account and driving the market in the opposite direction. Have you ever thought that? Did you watch yourself place a SELL trade, and then the market completely does the opposite and knocks you out of the trade? '

I don't believe that it is, but some times in low volumes it could be possible ?? I am sure that we all experience this as stated here in the email and good topic for discussion, I have my thoughts about it and will share it in this discussion on how to beat it and be profitable , like everything you need a starting point and that starting point seems to be a problem for lot of traders ,


I will share some of my strategies which are simple but effective , but first lets get this question in the open , I would like to hear from you traders on your thoughts on this subject 😐




This is a complex question.

Market makers do not hunt for single traders, but often times the trader is part of the herd.
Actions of single trader cannot be predicted but herd behaviour remains the same and is predictable.
They see both side of the markets and specific algorithms are able to mark the price up/down if the movement pays of.
Its not betting for them. Its simple math.

retail traders are insignificant part of the herd, biggest part of the herd are actually fund managers / bank traders that are paid no matter what and its only a job for them.
In any occasion, market makers do not fight the crowd, they just take advantage of it.

And they have many tricks in the book.

Idea that someone is hunting for your silly stop loss is just ridiculous if you do not trade with some bucket shop broker.

Regards

M

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XharpScalper
Feb 07 2015 at 13:57
283 posts
All regulated markets a controlled up-to an extent.

theodoros1
Feb 08 2015 at 07:14
24 posts
Bak


The number of traders and brokers are so big that its impossible to control everyone and everything. So even if you put a short order your broker cant put something opposite hoping to win from you as on the other site you have million of open trading account.s

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GoldGuru (GoldGuru)
Feb 08 2015 at 07:25
35 posts
First you need to see how P/L works.. Who pays who?

Its about money, try to see it this way.. read below:

If you made money, remember that came from someone's loss. The Exchange (Comex/Globex) won't pay you from its pocket. So how does it work? Price Action will hit SLs all the time to pay people who are making money.

Negative floating loss would be used too, to pay people making money.

blownaccount (blownaccount)
Feb 13 2015 at 17:07
104 posts
Yes, its Mathematically Controlled. but there is more to it, the math follows a part of science called quantum theory, most traders will not bother trying to understand quantum mechanics or real Artificial intelligence "NO basic metatrader EA's do not count"but you might want to look up double slit test, and you might see where we are going with this comment. does not matter if your really long or short in the quantum world. im posting a link about it from a reputable source and good explanation. there is a lot to price movements a majority of traders are not ready to accept.


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bullandbear223
Feb 16 2015 at 13:16
2 posts
Could you please be more specific about this that you are trying to point out ?

togr (togr)
Feb 16 2015 at 15:55
4862 posts
bako45 posted:
I have received email in this regard with this question , is it mathematically controlled by the market makers is the question,

'For whatever reason, many traders believe the market is controlled to ensure that they lose. These traders believe that the market makers are specifically looking at their account and driving the market in the opposite direction. Have you ever thought that? Did you watch yourself place a SELL trade, and then the market completely does the opposite and knocks you out of the trade? '

I don't believe that it is, but some times in low volumes it could be possible ?? I am sure that we all experience this as stated here in the email and good topic for discussion, I have my thoughts about it and will share it in this discussion on how to beat it and be profitable , like everything you need a starting point and that starting point seems to be a problem for lot of traders ,


I will share some of my strategies which are simple but effective , but first lets get this question in the open , I would like to hear from you traders on your thoughts on this subject 😐




Forex brokers do not need to control the market. They can send spike that does not to your account causing your position hit stop loss.
This apply for market makers.

True NDD, STP, ECN broker has no need to do so.

Cholipop
Feb 18 2015 at 07:45
406 posts
As blownaccount mentioned Maths is definitely a big part of the market. A clear sign is being that the market is fractal. The very same formation you see on the D1 you see on the 1m.

mavericks
Feb 18 2015 at 09:20
110 posts
Cholipop posted:
 As blownaccount mentioned Maths is definitely a big part of the market. A clear sign is being that the market is fractal. The very same formation you see on the D1 you see on the 1m.


Yes if you give someone screenshots from different timeframes, of lets say100 closed candles, he has minimal chance to mark them correctly. I had a debate with bob, that believes that historical price range should be there for always (some sort of balance). I argued that looking at monthly timeframe, is like looking at 5 timeframe for last day and assuming that price will never move outside those ranges.

Market is definetely great example of fractal geometry in real life.

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